If obama had a son

[NoNukes]

You're a bit off here concerning the law. There are NO laws prohibiting going to the aid of a victim who is being violently assaulted, even if those doing the assault are minors even if physical force is needed to stop the attack. The fact that this adult did nothing to come to the aid of a kid being brutally attacked is not a reflection of our laws, which protect people who defend themselves and defend crime victims, but is rather indicative of the depths of depravity and corruption this nation has sunken to. The fact that any adult would sit back and watch a child being brutally attacked is a disgrace and sickens me.

If you were going to lose your job, your livelihood, you'd think twice about it. If you were going to be sued for everything you possessed, for all your current and future earnings, you'd think twice about it.

The kid who was beaten up suffered a hand fracture and 2 black eyes. It was not as dangerous a situation as it looked like in the tape. I'm not justifying it, but the bus driver was right there and would be able to assess if the kid's life were in danger. You are unable to do that just looking at the tape. You are making all kinds of assumptions without being there, without knowing the details.

No, I wouldn't think twice about it. YOU might, I would not let the risk of maybe losing my job keep me from helping a kid who is being violently beaten in front of my eyes. As for being sued, that would be a stretch considering you were aiding the victim of a crime and furhtermore not a concern at the time I witnessed the attack. As for your nonsense about it not being as bad as it looked or as dangerous as it looked, I can only assume you've never gotten your ass beaten by multiple attackers and you have never seen someone beaten by multiple attackers. Here's a bit of FYI for you. Hundreds of times a year simple fights lead to murder charges or serious charges involving grievous bodily harm because the victim suffers brain damage from multiple blows to the head or from falling and striking their head on something.

I have to agree here. My first reaction would have been to help the kid and consider the consequences later.

 

[Esmeralda]

If you were going to lose your job, your livelihood, you'd think twice about it. If you were going to be sued for everything you possessed, for all your current and future earnings, you'd think twice about it.

The kid who was beaten up suffered a hand fracture and 2 black eyes. It was not as dangerous a situation as it looked like in the tape. I'm not justifying it, but the bus driver was right there and would be able to assess if the kid's life were in danger. You are unable to do that just looking at the tape. You are making all kinds of assumptions without being there, without knowing the details.

No, I wouldn't think twice about it. YOU might, I would not let the risk of maybe losing my job keep me from helping a kid who is being violently beaten in front of my eyes. As for being sued, that would be a stretch considering you were aiding the victim of a crime and furhtermore not a concern at the time I witnessed the attack. As for your nonsense about it not being as bad as it looked or as dangerous as it looked, I can only assume you've never gotten your ass beaten by multiple attackers and you have never seen someone beaten by multiple attackers. Here's a bit of FYI for you. Hundreds of times a year simple fights lead to murder charges or serious charges involving grievous bodily harm because the victim suffers brain damage from multiple blows to the head or from falling and striking their head on something.

I have to agree here. My first reaction would have been to help the kid and consider the consequences later.

I believe in most if not all school districts, teachers, bus drivers and others who work with kids must go by the school district policy, which is generally not to get physically involved but to call authorities. There are reasons for these policies, and those who follow their first impulse are those who are not being professional in the way they handle their jobs. I believe the bus driver was assessing the situation to see if he needed to intervene before the child was seriously injured. That would have most likely been the guidelines or policy he was following. In the tape you do see him getting up to observe the situation more accurately. You are all second guessing a situation you have only a YouTube tape to go by. You weren't there. You aren't a school bus driver. You don't work for that school district. You are not trained on how to handle these situations. The fact the bus driver has not been charged with any wrong doing should tell you he did what he was supposed to do. Both of you saying what you'd do: you don't know what you'd do as you were not in that specific situation.

 

[007]

If you were going to lose your job, your livelihood, you'd think twice about it. If you were going to be sued for everything you possessed, for all your current and future earnings, you'd think twice about it.

The kid who was beaten up suffered a hand fracture and 2 black eyes. It was not as dangerous a situation as it looked like in the tape. I'm not justifying it, but the bus driver was right there and would be able to assess if the kid's life were in danger. You are unable to do that just looking at the tape. You are making all kinds of assumptions without being there, without knowing the details.

No, I wouldn't think twice about it. YOU might, I would not let the risk of maybe losing my job keep me from helping a kid who is being violently beaten in front of my eyes. As for being sued, that would be a stretch considering you were aiding the victim of a crime and furhtermore not a concern at the time I witnessed the attack. As for your nonsense about it not being as bad as it looked or as dangerous as it looked, I can only assume you've never gotten your ass beaten by multiple attackers and you have never seen someone beaten by multiple attackers. Here's a bit of FYI for you. Hundreds of times a year simple fights lead to murder charges or serious charges involving grievous bodily harm because the victim suffers brain damage from multiple blows to the head or from falling and striking their head on something.

I have to agree here. My first reaction would have been to help the kid and consider the consequences later.

Without a doubt.

I used to drive school bus about 12 years ago. One time while sitting in front of the high school waiting for the kids to come out, I had three teenage boys get on the bus early and go to the back, of course. Next thing I see is a scuffle going on, to which I walked to the back, and before I could say anything one smart mouthed little punk said, "nothing to see here." I said "that's for me to decided, now get off the bus into the office." The smart mouth didn't think he had to follow my orders so I shut the bus off and walked into the school straight into the office which was just inside the doors and spoke with the assistant principle who then came outside, got on my bus and escorted the teens off, who were then also kicked off the bus for the rest of the school year. Now had this little scuffle not been a quick little one, but had been still going on when I got to it, I would have grabbed the little teens and separated them without hesitation, not to mention had I witnessed those three POS, cowards in Florida ganged up beating that poor kid inches from me, I'd have stopped that without hesitation. And if in the process one of those kids decided to take a poke at me, I'd have flattened his little ass. I'd have been within the law to break the fight up protecting a victim, and I'd have been within the law to protect myself if one of those filthy little cowards decided to attack me.

I hope those three shitty little punks enjoy their stays in prison.

End of story.

 

[jtpr312]

No, I wouldn't think twice about it. YOU might, I would not let the risk of maybe losing my job keep me from helping a kid who is being violently beaten in front of my eyes. As for being sued, that would be a stretch considering you were aiding the victim of a crime and furhtermore not a concern at the time I witnessed the attack. As for your nonsense about it not being as bad as it looked or as dangerous as it looked, I can only assume you've never gotten your ass beaten by multiple attackers and you have never seen someone beaten by multiple attackers. Here's a bit of FYI for you. Hundreds of times a year simple fights lead to murder charges or serious charges involving grievous bodily harm because the victim suffers brain damage from multiple blows to the head or from falling and striking their head on something.

I have to agree here. My first reaction would have been to help the kid and consider the consequences later.

I believe in most if not all school districts, teachers, bus drivers and others who work with kids must go by the school district policy, which is generally not to get physically involved but to call authorities. There are reasons for these policies, and those who follow their first impulse are those who are not being professional in the way they handle their jobs. I believe the bus driver was assessing the situation to see if he needed to intervene before the child was seriously injured. That would have most likely been the guidelines or policy he was following. In the tape you do see him getting up to observe the situation more accurately. You are all second guessing a situation you have only a YouTube tape to go by. You weren't there. You aren't a school bus driver. You don't work for that school district. You are not trained on how to handle these situations. The fact the bus driver has not been charged with any wrong doing should tell you he did what he was supposed to do. Both of you saying what you'd do: you don't know what you'd do as you were not in that specific situation.

The fact the bus driver has not been charged with any wrong doing should tell you he did what he was supposed to do???? What the hell kind of logic is that? You cannot be charged for doing nothing so the fact that he was not charged for not doing anything is no indication that him not doing anything was the right thing to do. The right thing, the moral thing, the good citizen thing to do would be to help ANYONE who is being assaulted. The rest of your post is just nonsense. Morally ALL human beings have the duty to help a child that is being hurt, period. All you're showing me is that you have the moral of an alley cat and that I hope my child never needs help and you or this bus driver are the only two adults around and if you have kids, I hope if they ever need help people like me and not people like you and this bus driver are there.

 

[jtpr312]

No, I wouldn't think twice about it. YOU might, I would not let the risk of maybe losing my job keep me from helping a kid who is being violently beaten in front of my eyes. As for being sued, that would be a stretch considering you were aiding the victim of a crime and furhtermore not a concern at the time I witnessed the attack. As for your nonsense about it not being as bad as it looked or as dangerous as it looked, I can only assume you've never gotten your ass beaten by multiple attackers and you have never seen someone beaten by multiple attackers. Here's a bit of FYI for you. Hundreds of times a year simple fights lead to murder charges or serious charges involving grievous bodily harm because the victim suffers brain damage from multiple blows to the head or from falling and striking their head on something.

I have to agree here. My first reaction would have been to help the kid and consider the consequences later.

Without a doubt.

I used to drive school bus about 12 years ago. One time while sitting in front of the high school waiting for the kids to come out, I had three teenage boys get on the bus early and go to the back, of course. Next thing I see is a scuffle going on, to which I walked to the back, and before I could say anything one smart mouthed little punk said, "nothing to see here." I said "that's for me to decided, now get off the bus into the office." The smart mouth didn't think he had to follow my orders so I shut the bus off and walked into the school straight into the office which was just inside the doors and spoke with the assistant principle who then came outside, got on my bus and escorted the teens off, who were then also kicked off the bus for the rest of the school year. Now had this little scuffle not been a quick little one, but had been still going on when I got to it, I would have grabbed the little teens and separated them without hesitation, not to mention had I witnessed those three POS, cowards in Florida ganged up beating that poor kid inches from me, I'd have stopped that without hesitation. And if in the process one of those kids decided to take a poke at me, I'd have flattened his little ass. I'd have been within the law to break the fight up protecting a victim, and I'd have been within the law to protect myself if one of those filthy little cowards decided to attack me.

I hope those three shitty little punks enjoy their stays in prison.

End of story.

Exactly! How any adult, forget about an adult that is charged with taking care of your kids, can sit by and watch a child being brutally assaulted and not intervene sickens me.