If the president is not safe, no one is safe.

The fact is that Trump mostly ignored the advice to wear masks and to socially distance. Anybody with a brain has been wearing masks socially distancing and self-isolating. Whatever you may think, scientists & medical professionals have made it clear that masks are mostly effective, if not perfect.
this is hilarious. for you to think you know what trump does and doesn't do. too fking funny. see there is no rational way for me to discuss with such nonsense. you know nothing.

You seem to be unaware the Trump is President of the United States and what he does and does not do is, for the most part, well known throughout the world. He is probably the most observed person on the planet.

Try to think before your posts...you really come off as a blathering idiot!
 
Why did masks become so political?

How did Hydroxychloroquine become political? Everything in our country is political.
Because Trump hyped it up and his supporters refuse to believe that the data shows it doesn’t work. Therefore, they invented an anti-Trump conspiracy in the CDC and NIH that falsified data to embarrass him.

That sounds crazy but that’s what happens when your base gets into a mindset that Trump cannot ever be wrong.

You are only part right. It's because Trump said if we have evidence of it working, doctors should consider it. If Trump came out against HCQ, the Democrats would have been jumping up and down stating that Trump wants people to die because there is evidence here and abroad that it does work on many people.
 
Presidential motorcades are always accompanied by state troopers. Trust me, I worked by the airport here in Cleveland for 25 years and have seen dozens of them.

If the FBI are chasing down a suspect and go through red lights to do so, they have federal jurisdiction, therefore are not breaking any laws even though they are federal authorities.

This is the nuance error that is being made. They are still breaking the law. Their federal jurisdiction just gives them immunity from being prosecuted.

They're still breaking the law.
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Anyone who feels uplifted because the president and his wife have the disease should consider that the disease can just as easily come for them. People in the 1980's got AIDS from going to the dentist or getting blood transfusions.

You can only be so careful and the most trivial thing can result in exposure. Try to avoid schadenfreude. It is a circular argument that will bite the user.
 
Presidential motorcades are always accompanied by state troopers. Trust me, I worked by the airport here in Cleveland for 25 years and have seen dozens of them.

If the FBI are chasing down a suspect and go through red lights to do so, they have federal jurisdiction, therefore are not breaking any laws even though they are federal authorities.

This is the nuance error that is being made. They are still breaking the law. Their federal jurisdiction just gives them immunity from being prosecuted.

They're still breaking the law.

No, you are not breaking any law in which you are exempt from. Again, the presidential motorcade is escorted by state troopers who are also exempt from city laws.
 
The president and first lady have tested positive for Covid-19; there is little doubt that no one is safe. We are in a state of attack from a foe that comes disguised like a Trojan Horse. It makes every friend an enemy. It hides in apparently innocuous places and delivers itself covertly via the overt tendencies of its targets to gather in groups. It is the ultimate superweapon and it appears to have the footprint of human engineering. It has an unnerving unnatural aspect to it. Did someone open a Pandora’s box?

Wouldn’t that be the real story? Why is the 600-pound gorilla in the room ignored? Does anyone have any idea what gain-of-function research is? Pathogens exist in nature, but the majority are random and fail to reach pandemic proportions because they lack the necessary connections to attach themselves to the mechanisms of cellular structure that are in place to defeat them with immune responses. What if bioresearch could use DNA technology to weave and combine special connecting abilities from other viruses into new viruses so they could circumvent nature?

What would happen if a Frankenstein scenario like this got out of hand? No need to wonder; it is happening right before our eyes. When the President of the United States is not safe, no one is safe. We are playing with fire on this issue because this is an election year in our country and partisans are using the intended or unintended release of crafted bioweapon research for political advantage while the economic destruction of our country unfolds like a slow rumbling wrecking ball.

Whether someone wears a mask or not has very little relevance in the way of protection because there is no effective physical barrier to contact or airborne plague that is on the march 24 hours a day in every corner of society. There are too many variables in the mix and the poison just lurks waiting for any lapse in human judgement which is inevitable.

Can we turn to science to save us? First we have to realize that science is what has attacked us. This is not just a national threat, it is a global threat and if the human species is going to survive there are certain ethical protocols that must be followed and this business about we have to do it because others are doing it will take us down.





There are uncountable viruses and other bacteria we don't worry about Ray

THe fact you can run around asymptomatic proves that it's not that serious and thus can be ignored.

A true "600 pound gorilla" of a communicable condition isn't one most people can just walk around with without ever knowing they had

The seasonal flu isn't a 600 pound gorilla, neither is corona
 
The fact is that Trump mostly ignored the advice to wear masks and to socially distance. Anybody with a brain has been wearing masks socially distancing and self-isolating. Whatever you may think, scientists & medical professionals have made it clear that masks are mostly effective, if not perfect.
this is hilarious. for you to think you know what trump does and doesn't do. too fking funny. see there is no rational way for me to discuss with such nonsense. you know nothing.

You seem to be unaware the Trump is President of the United States and what he does and does not do is, for the most part, well known throughout the world. He is probably the most observed person on the planet.

Try to think before your posts...you really come off as a blathering idiot!


pussygrabber has worked very hard with his ineptitude to earn all the ridicule in the world....
 
Why did masks become so political?

How did Hydroxychloroquine become political? Everything in our country is political.
Because Trump hyped it up and his supporters refuse to believe that the data shows it doesn’t work. Therefore, they invented an anti-Trump conspiracy in the CDC and NIH that falsified data to embarrass him.

That sounds crazy but that’s what happens when your base gets into a mindset that Trump cannot ever be wrong.

You are only part right. It's because Trump said if we have evidence of it working, doctors should consider it. If Trump came out against HCQ, the Democrats would have been jumping up and down stating that Trump wants people to die because there is evidence here and abroad that it does work on many people.
But Trump claimed we did have data it worked and his supporters still believe it does despite the data showing the opposite.

You’re watering down Trump’s comments but it’s only half the story. His supporters clearly refuse to acknowledge that it just doesn’t work.
 
The president and first lady have tested positive for Covid-19; there is little doubt that no one is safe. We are in a state of attack from a foe that comes disguised like a Trojan Horse. It makes every friend an enemy. It hides in apparently innocuous places and delivers itself covertly via the overt tendencies of its targets to gather in groups. It is the ultimate superweapon and it appears to have the footprint of human engineering. It has an unnerving unnatural aspect to it. Did someone open a Pandora’s box?

Wouldn’t that be the real story? Why is the 600-pound gorilla in the room ignored? Does anyone have any idea what gain-of-function research is? Pathogens exist in nature, but the majority are random and fail to reach pandemic proportions because they lack the necessary connections to attach themselves to the mechanisms of cellular structure that are in place to defeat them with immune responses. What if bioresearch could use DNA technology to weave and combine special connecting abilities from other viruses into new viruses so they could circumvent nature?

What would happen if a Frankenstein scenario like this got out of hand? No need to wonder; it is happening right before our eyes. When the President of the United States is not safe, no one is safe. We are playing with fire on this issue because this is an election year in our country and partisans are using the intended or unintended release of crafted bioweapon research for political advantage while the economic destruction of our country unfolds like a slow rumbling wrecking ball.

Whether someone wears a mask or not has very little relevance in the way of protection because there is no effective physical barrier to contact or airborne plague that is on the march 24 hours a day in every corner of society. There are too many variables in the mix and the poison just lurks waiting for any lapse in human judgement which is inevitable.

Can we turn to science to save us? First we have to realize that science is what has attacked us. This is not just a national threat, it is a global threat and if the human species is going to survive there are certain ethical protocols that must be followed and this business about we have to do it because others are doing it will take us down.




It's a matter of time now until they start trying to remove him because he's unfit for office.

I'd suggest that you read the 25th amendment before making idiotic statements, but I doubt you are capable of comprehending it.
id suggest you fly off a building

Seriously? That's the best you could come up with?

Maybe you should consider whether you should refrain from posting before you post.

If you don't have anything intelligent to say relating to the thread, then do us all a favor and STFU!
 
But Trump claimed we did have data it worked and his supporters still believe it does despite the data showing the opposite.

You’re watering down Trump’s comments but it’s only half the story. His supporters clearly refuse to acknowledge that it just doesn’t work.

It does work. One Democrat state rep credited Trump for saving her life. She had Covid and was sliding downhill. In spite of her political party opposition to Trump, she felt dying was not an option to be loyal to the party. She insisted her doctors provide her with the treatment, and she said she noticed a huge difference within a few hours of the first treatment.
 
Anyone who feels uplifted because the president and his wife have the disease should consider that the disease can just as easily come for them. People in the 1980's got AIDS from going to the dentist or getting blood transfusions.

You can only be so careful and the most trivial thing can result in exposure. Try to avoid schadenfreude. It is a circular argument that will bite the user.
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No, you blithering nincompoop............you claimed there was a LAW REQUIRING MASK WEARING.
OK. trump violated a lawful legal order. Supported by statute or constitutional authority, and enforceable by law enforcement.

But it wasn't a law or statute.
 
But Trump claimed we did have data it worked and his supporters still believe it does despite the data showing the opposite.

You’re watering down Trump’s comments but it’s only half the story. His supporters clearly refuse to acknowledge that it just doesn’t work.

It does work. One Democrat state rep credited Trump for saving her life. She had Covid and was sliding downhill. In spite of her political party opposition to Trump, she felt dying was not an option to be loyal to the party. She insisted her doctors provide her with the treatment, and she said she noticed a huge difference within a few hours of the first treatment.

No one takes anecdotes like this seriously because this is not a scientific way to evaluate if a drug therapy works.

The scientific way is to do drug trials and those trials show no benefit. If Trump hadn’t hyped it up, none of y’all would be constantly trying to convince yourself otherwise.
 
The link was to the authority, or statute which empowered the executive order Trump violated. Not to other references within the article.

So you lied that the "link no worky", and not that a link within the article didn't work.
Nope. You put a non-working link in your post.

Deal with it.
I put the link to the article in my post, which you admit WORKS.

Your wrongful claim is that I put the non-working links quoted by the article, which I had no control over.
 
But Trump claimed we did have data it worked and his supporters still believe it does despite the data showing the opposite.

You’re watering down Trump’s comments but it’s only half the story. His supporters clearly refuse to acknowledge that it just doesn’t work.

It does work. One Democrat state rep credited Trump for saving her life. She had Covid and was sliding downhill. In spite of her political party opposition to Trump, she felt dying was not an option to be loyal to the party. She insisted her doctors provide her with the treatment, and she said she noticed a huge difference within a few hours of the first treatment.

No one takes anecdotes like this seriously because this is not a scientific way to evaluate if a drug therapy works.

The scientific way is to do drug trials and those trials show no benefit. If Trump hadn’t hyped it up, none of y’all would be constantly trying to convince yourself otherwise.

We don't have time to do a complete clinical trial. That takes years to do. All we can go by is what doctors have reported and the trials that we are doing now. This treatment for this virus is new, and we have to move fast. Remember we are not the only country to use HCQ to treat patients.
 
But Trump claimed we did have data it worked and his supporters still believe it does despite the data showing the opposite.

You’re watering down Trump’s comments but it’s only half the story. His supporters clearly refuse to acknowledge that it just doesn’t work.

It does work. One Democrat state rep credited Trump for saving her life. She had Covid and was sliding downhill. In spite of her political party opposition to Trump, she felt dying was not an option to be loyal to the party. She insisted her doctors provide her with the treatment, and she said she noticed a huge difference within a few hours of the first treatment.

No one takes anecdotes like this seriously because this is not a scientific way to evaluate if a drug therapy works.

The scientific way is to do drug trials and those trials show no benefit. If Trump hadn’t hyped it up, none of y’all would be constantly trying to convince yourself otherwise.

We don't have time to do a complete clinical trial. That takes years to do. All we can go by is what doctors have reported and the trials that we are doing now. This treatment for this virus is new, and we have to move fast. Remember we are not the only country use HCQ to treat patients.
Hell yes we have time to do a clinical trial because we already did. Other countries have done them as well.

Same results across the board.
 
They're still breaking the law.

No, you are not breaking any law in which you are exempt from. Again, the presidential motorcade is escorted by state troopers who are also exempt from city laws.
Once more, just like using federal jurisdiction or state jurisdiction, they are immune from the consequences of breaking the law. The law itself grants them no exception.
 
They're still breaking the law.

No, you are not breaking any law in which you are exempt from. Again, the presidential motorcade is escorted by state troopers who are also exempt from city laws.
Once more, just like using federal jurisdiction or state jurisdiction, they are immune from the consequences of breaking the law. The law itself grants them no exception.

Yes it does, or are you meaning to tell me when a state trooper chases a suspect going through red lights, they are breaking the law but not cited for it?

If I go through a red light, I am breaking the law. If a police officer does the same, he or she is exempt from that law.

It's the same thing with ICE when they conduct workplace raids. The liberal Mayors and Governors stomp their feet and cry bloody murder, but there is nothing they can do about it because the federal authority supersedes state and local authorities. Therefore, they are breaking no laws by going into these places and arresting illegals who are working there.
 
Once more, just like using federal jurisdiction or state jurisdiction, they are immune from the consequences of breaking the law. The law itself grants them no exception.
Yes it does, or are you meaning to tell me when a state trooper chases a suspect going through red lights, they are breaking the law but not cited for it?
Vehicle and Traffic law specifically says it does not apply to law enforcement while in the performance of their cuties, and while using lights and sirens. Same with ambulances and emergency vehicles.

Specific exceptions written into the law.

Compare to:

Evidence From Diplomatic Parking Tickets (NBER Working Paper No. 12312), authors Raymond Fisman and Edward Miguel develop an approach to evaluating the role of social norms in corruption by studying parking violations among international diplomats living in New York City. Approximately 1700 consular personnel and their families from 146 countries benefit from diplomatic immunity, a privilege that allowed them to avoid paying parking fines


Those laws do not have exceptions for diplomats.

They are still breaking the law, but foreign jurisdiction makes them immune from prosecution.
 

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