If they delete the ACA , we will have to go all out for the Universal Healthcare!!

[occupied]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

Plenty of examples of socialized medicine working all over the world. It is not a new radical idea at this point.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

If medicare sucks imagine how much worse Universal Medicaid will be

Medicare isn't free. I pay 135 a month for it. Most still require a supplemental policy to cover the 20% it doesn't cover. The reason Medicare isn't peachy is that too many people that don't know what they are doing have a hand in managing it. And since some Doctors won't take on new Medicare Patients, it's sometimes hard to find a Doctor. But if everyone was under Medicare, that would remove that problem.

I more push to use the VA as an example for Universal Health Care. But don't make it free. The only real question is, what amount annually would be a fair amount for each person or family to pay. And what do we do for the Supplemental. And do we offer an alternate insurance option? There is nothing that can't be worked out. But the first thing that has to be done is to run off is the Insurance Companies Lobbyists.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

While the VA isn't perfect, it's better than the civilian options. It's a good model to use.

 

[Claudette]

Anyone wanting the Government in charge of their HC is dumber than a box of rocks.

Long waits, paperwork up the ass and red tape all over the place. Many have died waiting for Govt. HC.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

While the VA isn't perfect, it's better than the civilian options. It's a good model to use.

No it isn’t and has been a mess for decades!

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

Plenty of examples of socialized medicine working all over the world. It is not a new radical idea at this point.

And most of those countries middle class to rich citizens go to third world countries to get medical procedures done.

Pass a Universal Healthcare Plan here and watch Mexico grow in tourism for people to see Doctors down there and there is nothing you can do!

Canada is a perfect example how their people would come here to avoid the waiting list and before you say it never happened I have seen it happen!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Anyone wanting the Government in charge of their HC is dumber than a box of rocks.

Long waits, paperwork up the ass and red tape all over the place. Many have died waiting for Govt. HC.

Funny how that doesn't hold for many of the EU Countries. Or is this just another fear and scare tactic? It works less and less each year.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

While the VA isn't perfect, it's better than the civilian options. It's a good model to use.

No it isn’t and has been a mess for decades!

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

Plenty of examples of socialized medicine working all over the world. It is not a new radical idea at this point.

And most of those countries middle class to rich citizens go to third world countries to get medical procedures done.

Pass a Universal Healthcare Plan here and watch Mexico grow in tourism for people to see Doctors down there and there is nothing you can do!

Canada is a perfect example how their people would come here to avoid the waiting list and before you say it never happened I have seen it happen!

Your scare tactics aren't working so well these days. And it's going to cost you the Senate which is something I don't wish to see. But if it means sending Moscow Mitch to the end of the line for the next two years, the I guess that is something that needs to be done.

 

[Penelope]

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

If medicare sucks imagine how much worse Universal Medicaid will be

We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.

Americans ALREADY HAVE free Universal Healthcare >>

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If they can do it for military and vets, they can do it for civilians.

 

[Penelope]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

While the VA isn't perfect, it's better than the civilian options. It's a good model to use.

No it isn’t and has been a mess for decades!

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

Plenty of examples of socialized medicine working all over the world. It is not a new radical idea at this point.

And most of those countries middle class to rich citizens go to third world countries to get medical procedures done.

Pass a Universal Healthcare Plan here and watch Mexico grow in tourism for people to see Doctors down there and there is nothing you can do!

Canada is a perfect example how their people would come here to avoid the waiting list and before you say it never happened I have seen it happen!

You can go to Mexico all you want as long as you pay your taxes. Those waiting lists are nothing, ever try making an elective surgery appointment in the US. The time is the same amount.

Many people move to Mexico for the cheapness of living. That is your choice.

 

[Billiejeens]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

The entire purpose of passing the ACA was to crash the system.
It was designed to fail.
There was no support for leaving the mostly fine medical care system we had, to go directly to the stink that single payer is.
So they had to crash the system .
Again, Hillary being the most unelectable candidate in history - fucked up that plan, thankfully.

 

[Billiejeens]

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

If medicare sucks imagine how much worse Universal Medicaid will be

We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.

2nd reminder - YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED.

 

[protectionist]

If they can do it for vets, they can do it for civilians.

Sure, just by signing those civilians up for the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard. And there are other branches of US govt that provide free medical care as well,

Not fully sure of these, but some possibilities to look into would be > Postal Service, ICE, DEA, FBI, CIA, DIA, Forest Service, National Parks, BLS, DHS, etc.

List of federal agencies in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Billiejeens]

No advantage plans, no. part D, and no 20% copay. And no premiums for Part B.

Everything free, FREE, FREE!

for democrats whats not to like?

for democrats what's not to like?

Is it being responsible?

 

[Penelope]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

The entire purpose of passing the ACA was to crash the system.
It was designed to fail.
There was no support for leaving the mostly fine medical care system we had, to go directly to the stink that single payer is.
So they had to crash the system .
Again, Hillary being the most unelectable candidate in history - fucked up that plan, thankfully.

Joe Biden is running and he is going to win.

Has the ACA crashed the US, I don't think so, tramp thinking the virus will magically disappear is what crashed the economy and his tax cuts.

 

[Billiejeens]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

She is a simpleton.

 

[Billiejeens]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

While the VA isn't perfect, it's better than the civilian options. It's a good model to use.

It's not.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

While the VA isn't perfect, it's better than the civilian options. It's a good model to use.

No it isn’t and has been a mess for decades!

And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

Plenty of examples of socialized medicine working all over the world. It is not a new radical idea at this point.

And most of those countries middle class to rich citizens go to third world countries to get medical procedures done.

Pass a Universal Healthcare Plan here and watch Mexico grow in tourism for people to see Doctors down there and there is nothing you can do!

Canada is a perfect example how their people would come here to avoid the waiting list and before you say it never happened I have seen it happen!

You can go to Mexico all you want as long as you pay your taxes. Those waiting lists are nothing, ever try making an elective surgery appointment in the US. The time is the same amount.

Many people move to Mexico for the cheapness of living. That is your choice.

I have a couple of Buddies that move to Mexico because the Military Retirement goes a lot further. The really don't like the term "Ex-Pats". They don't make enough or have enough power to worry about the new sport that Mexico would add to the Olympics the next time they get the games. It's called Kidnapping. The Rich stay in the US even when they ship all the jobs overseas.

 

[Penelope]

If they can do it for vets, they can do it for civilians.

Sure, just by signing those civilians up for the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard. And there are other branches of US govt that provide free medical care as well,

Not fully sure of these, but some possibilities to look into would be > Postal Service, ICE, DEA, FBI, CIA, DIA, Forest Service, National Parks, BLS, DHS, etc.

List of federal agencies in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Everyone can't work for the gov, so you'd be ok with it for 2 years of service for everyone to have healthcare?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

If they can do it for vets, they can do it for civilians.

Sure, just by signing those civilians up for the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Coast Guard. And there are other branches of US govt that provide free medical care as well,

Not fully sure of these, but some possibilities to look into would be > Postal Service, ICE, DEA, FBI, CIA, DIA, Forest Service, National Parks, BLS, DHS, etc.

List of federal agencies in the United States - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Everyone can't work for the gov, so you'd be ok with it for 2 years of service for everyone to have healthcare?

Why not, many countries require that. But I don't suggest it, myself. What I do suggest is we get a friggin handle on the Civilian Medical System and make it affordable one way or another.

 

[protectionist]

If the U.S. government can not handle the mess with the V.A. what make you think they will be able to handle Universal Healthcare or Medicare for All?

But since Trump took over, the government HAS BEEN handling the VA quite well. Trump signed the MISSION ACT, replacing Obama's failed Choice Act, and ever since, the VA has been running smoothly. I have had multiple surgeries, nitrogen treatments,
various scans, medications, medical accessories, etc, all free and on time.

Maybe this should be added to the list in the OP. If Biden wins, does he repeal the MISSION ACT, and we go back to the bad old days of the VA, under Obama/Biden ?