If Trump Advocates Legalization of Illegal Aliens, I Won't Vote For Him

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Oh i'm sure. He's pissed because I am proud of being white

Nah, you're a racist cracker

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Donald Trump just met with a large group of Hispanics. After the meeting, when campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, was asked by Dana Bash of CNN, if he still proposes mass deportation, she answered by saying "to be determined"

Huh ? The fundamental policy of the Trump campaign from the beginning, which got Trump steamrolled over such amnesyites as Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham, and Marco Rubio, was mass deportation of illegal aliens. It was what millions of Republicans admired and voted for in the primaries. It is the right thing to do, and it would be a travesty of justice against American workers and ALL Americans to grant amnesty to illegals - which I define as anything less than mass deportation of EVERY illegal alien, and that includes white, European illegal aliens as well as Hispanics or Blacks.

So where in hell did "to be determined" come from ? This is something that was ALREADY determined. It was determined at the beginning of this campaign, and all through it, that decades of lawbreakers would finally be brought to justice and get kicked out of the country as the law provides. What a huge disappointment if Trump flip-flops on this. Stay the course, Donald, and explain to American Hispanic voters why this mass deportation is good for THEM as well as anybody else.

Pity you and other bigots won’t have anyone to vote for.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

You can't say "legalization" of illegal aliens. The correct phrase would be legalization of illegal immigration. Your title has all kinds of connotations, of white slavery, smuggling and status as a person.

FALSE! The term illegal aliens is 100% correct, and has NO connotations other than 2 things . That the people are aliens (they are), and that they are here illegally (they are). Simple as that.

No, it’s ignorant and wrong.

One is not ‘illegal’ until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization, or entering legally and remaining after that authorization has ended.

All persons in the United States are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented; all persons are entitled to a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, including those undocumented.

Hence the ignorance and idiocy of Trump’s bigoted, un-Constitutional ‘plan’: there can be no ‘mass deportation,’ each of the 11 million undocumented immigrants is entitled to his day in court, to apply for refugee or asylee status, and deported only after having been afforded comprehensive due process.

These are the fundamental tenets of the rule of law, principles basic to our Constitutional Republic, where you once again demonstrate how you and most others on the right have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

 

[Care4all]

the words OUT on all the Media, Trump's stance on immigration...

''He's SOFTENING his position on deportation'', KellyAnn (new campaign manager) just said so again, couple of seconds ago on CNN.

 

[BULLDOG]

Great idea. You gonna send the water to fill those motes in the desert too?

No. Mexico will.

You get back with me after that happens.

Vicente Fox will be Trump's little chihuahua bitch saying, "Si, Señor, how high should we build this "fucking" wall?"

 

[OldLady]

You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned the business owner and their illegal hiring of undocumented workers and the fact that Trump and the GOP are ignoring them while going after the illegal worker.

If the GOP along with Trump would actually enforce the laws this country has and force employers to stop hiring illegals then the illegal immigrant would stop coming here ( well would slow it considerably ) but as usual the GOP and Trump do not want to offend their voting bloc and prefer to look at one part of the problem and not the entire problem...

You just made a mistake. You said the problem is NON-ENFORCEMENT (of IRCA). That's correct. That IS part of the problem. But your mistake is blaming the Republicans. If you knew what you were talking about, you'd know that enforcement of immigration law is in the hands of the EXECUTIVE branch of govt. For the last 7.5 years, that has been in the control of DEMOCRATS, not Republicans. It is run by ICE, headed by Sarah Saldana, who answers to Jeh Johnson, head of DHS, which is part of Obama's cabinet. ALL DEMOCRATS.

Click the links to see what a pro-illegal alien job they've been doing.

And not only have they not been enforcing IRCA, by arresting illegal employers, they have been releasing illegal aliens (even ones who committed crimes) back on to the streets.

Illegal immigrant criminals released into U.S. despite thousands of vacant detention beds

Obama amnesty to be tested by immigration service nominee

Obama immigration chief: Deportations plummeting; sanctuary cities, influx of kids to blame

DHS released another 30,000 criminal aliens onto streets

Your reply to me:
This dopey idea was already refuted soundly, in an earlier post. Try reading the thread.
There was nothing earlier in the thread to refute my impression.

Your later reply to Jim:
You just made a mistake. You said the problem is NON-ENFORCEMENT (of IRCA). That's correct. That IS part of the problem. But your mistake is blaming the Republicans

Well, thanks for finally explaining yourself, although you could only do it civilly to a man.

 

[OldLady]

You can't say "legalization" of illegal aliens. The correct phrase would be legalization of illegal immigration. Your title has all kinds of connotations, of white slavery, smuggling and status as a person.

FALSE! The term illegal aliens is 100% correct, and has NO connotations other than 2 things . That the people are aliens (they are), and that they are here illegally (they are). Simple as that.

No, it’s ignorant and wrong.

One is not ‘illegal’ until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization, or entering legally and remaining after that authorization has ended.

All persons in the United States are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented; all persons are entitled to a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, including those undocumented.

Hence the ignorance and idiocy of Trump’s bigoted, un-Constitutional ‘plan’: there can be no ‘mass deportation,’ each of the 11 million undocumented immigrants is entitled to his day in court, to apply for refugee or asylee status, and deported only after having been afforded comprehensive due process.

These are the fundamental tenets of the rule of law, principles basic to our Constitutional Republic, where you once again demonstrate how you and most others on the right have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

Were those laws not in effect when Eisenhower did it in 1953? Or was that whole thing an RW lie?

 

[tigerred59]

All those people who supported him thought the wall was determined. It's what he said.

You are confusing 2 separate sub-issues. The wall is border security (keeping the invaders from coming in). Mass deportation is enforcement (getting the invaders out). I haven't heard anything about the wall. Last I heard, it goes up. Mexico pays for it.

And the Cartel will dig under it... So build the wall and show the World how to waste money on something that will not even slow the flow of illegal immigration nor anything else from Mexico!

Oh and there are sections of the wall already and yes the Cartel has been digging under it but stay clueless...

As for the Mass Deportations, not happening and Donald Trump will lose this battle but keep on dreaming and remember no one invited the Europeans to come over here and yes there were civilizations here before the European Settler but let not remember that and focus on the invading force you fear so much!

Apparently it is YOU who is clueless. Some years ago they built a double/triple fence along a 14 mile stretch of border south of San Diego, CA. It has been a success, and border crossers long ago stopped trying to cross there.

Another success example is in Yuma, Arizona. Click the links

Still another example of wall.fence success is in Israel.

Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, border crossings fall

San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control

PS - I think Obama's idea of an alligator moat along the wall is not a bad idea. We have tons of them here in Florida, and we'll be more than happy to donate them.


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Fact is, illegal immigration is down because our economy sucks, so walls to balls, its the economy stupid.

 

[tigerred59]

Hey idiot, the cost of mass deportation is ranging right now in the billions, inching toward a trillion dollars, who may I ask will pay for that? You and your welfare check?

Who do you think OUGHT to pay for it after Mexico has stolen $24 Billion/year from us in remittances + another $26 billion/year in us paying their poverty bill. ? Think hard, genius.

And NO, the cost of deportation is nowhere near a Trillion $$, but whatever it is that's Mexico's problem. Oh they won't pay ? LOL. They'll pay all right. Or it'll be 1848 all over again.

Listen, I'm not even gonna waste time addressing this issue, because Trump is full of shit and is not gonna win anyways.

 

[tigerred59]

the words OUT on all the Media, Trump's stance on immigration...

''He's SOFTENING his position on deportation'', KellyAnn (new campaign manager) just said so again, couple of seconds ago on CNN.

What the idiot is now realizing, is that his racist rants are now catching up to him and now he wants to back paddle and sadly some fools will fall for the shit. Trump has been playing with fire since announcing his bid and unless he learns the real deal in politics, he's just another GOP candidate stuck with the crazies that took McCain out, Romney out and soon to be him....OUT!!

 

[protectionist]

Admit it fool, you and the rest of your kind all have been duped by Trump. He played you stupid white mf's and used you fools like the GOP always does with ignorant whites. Another example of white people and why your entire race need to be taken down a peg or two in a few more years of brown majority coming.

No RACIST FOOL. Your wishful thinking is going nowhere. But keep hoping, trashbag, if it makes you feel better, .

 

[protectionist]

No, it’s ignorant and wrong.

One is not ‘illegal’ until such time as he has been found guilty in a court of law of entering the country absent authorization, or entering legally and remaining after that authorization has ended.

All persons in the United States are entitled to due process of the law, including those undocumented; all persons are entitled to a presumption of innocence until proven guilty, including those undocumented.

Hence the ignorance and idiocy of Trump’s bigoted, un-Constitutional ‘plan’: there can be no ‘mass deportation,’ each of the 11 million undocumented immigrants is entitled to his day in court, to apply for refugee or asylee status, and deported only after having been afforded comprehensive due process.

These are the fundamental tenets of the rule of law, principles basic to our Constitutional Republic, where you once again demonstrate how you and most others on the right have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, its case law, and the rule of law.

FALSE! One is illegal, the moment they illegally cross the US border without authorization from immigration officials.

In 1954, Eisenhowe deported millions of illegal aliens in no time at all, in operation wetback. In 2017, with operation wetback II the same will be done even faster, with today's computer technology.

 

[protectionist]

Vicente Fox is a thug and also is one of the world biggest thiefs (if not THE biggest) He sent 8 million illegal aliens into the USA, with the expressed purpose of raiding the US economy of Billions of dollars . Money extracted OUT of the US economy and re-inserted into the Mexican economy, by way of remittances$$$.

Fox even had the arrogance of openly bragging/gloating about his massive international burglary. Click the link to read about the Mexican pirate, and his brags of stealing US economy $$$, and turning them into Mexico's # 1 source of income.

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

 

[protectionist]

Pity you and other bigots won’t have anyone to vote for.

You HOPE.

And if Trump does flip on deportation, NOBODY will have anyone to vote for (other than jihadists & LOWLIFES willing to vote for Hillary)

 

[protectionist]

You're just now realizing that Trump lied to you to get the GOP primary votes? And that he has no intention of following through with those immigration promises?

Welcome to the party, Sally. We've been waiting for you for *months*.

This 'TBD' shit isn't new. His campaign telegraphed they were flushing 'deportation teams' around the time of the convention.

I'm not "realizing " it, and neither are you. But if it makes you feel better to hope out loud, go ahead.

 

[protectionist]

the words OUT on all the Media, Trump's stance on immigration...

''He's SOFTENING his position on deportation'', KellyAnn (new campaign manager) just said so again, couple of seconds ago on CNN.

She said "to be determined" and there's 3 months to go yet. If it makes you feel better to hope out loud, go ahead

 

[protectionist]

Fact is, illegal immigration is down because our economy sucks, so walls to balls, its the economy stupid.

The thread is about illegal aliens who are HERE, not ones coming here. Go back to sleep.

 

[BULLDOG]

Vicente Fox is a thug and also is one of the world biggest thiefs (if not THE biggest) He sent 8 million illegal aliens into the USA, with the expressed purpose of raiding the US economy of Billions of dollars . Money extracted OUT of the US economy and re-inserted into the Mexican economy, by way of remittances$$$.

Fox even had the arrogance of openly bragging/gloating about his massive international burglary. Click the link to read about the Mexican pirate, and his brags of stealing US economy $$$, and turning them into Mexico's # 1 source of income.

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

He's also the guy who said he wasn't paying for a fucking wall.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Vicente Fox is a thug and also is one of the world biggest thiefs (if not THE biggest) He sent 8 million illegal aliens into the USA, with the expressed purpose of raiding the US economy of Billions of dollars . Money extracted OUT of the US economy and re-inserted into the Mexican economy, by way of remittances$$$.

Fox even had the arrogance of openly bragging/gloating about his massive international burglary. Click the link to read about the Mexican pirate, and his brags of stealing US economy $$$, and turning them into Mexico's # 1 source of income.

Vicente Fox Says Remittances Largest Source Of Revenue Since 2003, Gloats At Getting Illegals And Matricula Consular Into US : Diggers Realm

He's also the guy who said he wasn't paying for a fucking wall.

One day I told my wife I'm not paying for the fucking Honda Element she wanted for herself and the kids.

Today, I have 23 payments left before it's paid off. Some people just win every "negotiation". Trump is one of them.

 

[Skylar]

You're just now realizing that Trump lied to you to get the GOP primary votes? And that he has no intention of following through with those immigration promises?

Welcome to the party, Sally. We've been waiting for you for *months*.

This 'TBD' shit isn't new. His campaign telegraphed they were flushing 'deportation teams' around the time of the convention.

I'm not "realizing " it, and neither are you. But if it makes you feel better to hope out loud, go ahead.

Yeah, that's why Trump started backpedalling the moment he no longer needed you guys. With Trump now saying he's going to adopt Obama's policies.

You've been had.