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, and now we need a new government program to fix the mess created by the existing government programs.
don't you mean that we need capitalism to replace the existing govt programs?
We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
Although I greatly prefer the free market over Socialism/Obama-ism I have no desire to live even into my 90s (let alone 110). I'm for quality of life over quantity of life.
We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
Although I greatly prefer the free market over Socialism/Obama-ism I have no desire to live even into my 90s (let alone 110). I'm for quality of life over quantity of life.
If they ever did invent a method to live to such an age without the frailness that starts to set in around 60 it would be for the rich only and would literally cost a fortune. What's the use of living almost half your life worried about breaking a hip? Not me, I am going to slide into my grave sideways slinging gravel and yelling "holy shit what a ride!".
.We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
If we had a capitalist health care system life expectancy would probably be 100-110 for the %10 who could afford the cream. But I still doubt it. Japan (3rd after Monico/Macaw) has a life expectancy of 87+/-. In Japan;
The health care system in Japan provides healthcare services, including screening examinations, prenatal care and infectious disease control, with the patient accepting responsibility for 30% of these costs while the government pays the remaining 70%. Payment for personal medical services is offered through a universal health care insurance system that provides relative equality of access, with fees set by a government committee. People without insurance through employers can participate in a national health insurance programme administered by local governments. -Wikipedia
The WHO lists U.S. life expectancy as 35th in the World. The overwhelming majority of countries with higher rates of LE have public health care much more comprehensive than the U.S.
Conclusion....your full of shit.
Although I greatly prefer the free market over Socialism/Obama-ism I have no desire to live even into my 90s (let alone 110). I'm for quality of life over quantity of life.
If they ever did invent a method to live to such an age without the frailness that starts to set in around 60 it would be for the rich only and would literally cost a fortune. What's the use of living almost half your life worried about breaking a hip? Not me, I am going to slide into my grave sideways slinging gravel and yelling "holy shit what a ride!".
Is this the first time we agreed on something? I can't remember
I've often thought to myself that before I get tossed in some old folks' home to be forgot just to drown in my own drool I would buy an ounce of good weed, a gallon of fine booze, and a shovel. I'd head to a high mountain in the middle of winter, dig a hole, party-hardy, and fall into the hole and freeze to death. Knowing me, my plan would probably fail and someone would find me just in time to toss me into an old folks' home.
We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
Why don't you explain for the class exactly what you think a "capitalist health care system" would be?
We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
We don't have a capitalist health care system today because liberals lack the IQ to understand capitalism. Should we hold liberals responsible for taking 20 years off everyone's life??
If we had a capitalist health care system life expectancy would probably be 100-110 for the %10 who could afford the cream. But I still doubt it. Japan (3rd after Monico/Macaw) has a life expectancy of 87+/-. In Japan;
The health care system in Japan provides healthcare services, including screening examinations, prenatal care and infectious disease control, with the patient accepting responsibility for 30% of these costs while the government pays the remaining 70%. Payment for personal medical services is offered through a universal health care insurance system that provides relative equality of access, with fees set by a government committee. People without insurance through employers can participate in a national health insurance programme administered by local governments. -Wikipedia
The WHO lists U.S. life expectancy as 35th in the World. The overwhelming majority of countries with higher rates of LE have public health care much more comprehensive than the U.S.
Conclusion....your full of shit.
lets not forget that with capitalism prices would be about 20% of what they are now so everyone could afford health care, even if only with a tiny subsidy from state govt or local church.
If we had a capitalist health care system life expectancy would probably be 100-110
Link?and can you tell us why you feel that way. A liberal always had to asked for a reason. It does not occur to a liberal that a reason is necessary.
Because there is no evidence for your comment, so I just made it up too.
a capitalist economy will produce innovations at a rate 100,000 times that of a communist economy
If we had a capitalist health care system life expectancy would probably be 100-110 for the %10 who could afford the cream. But I still doubt it. Japan (3rd after Monico/Macaw) has a life expectancy of 87+/-. In Japan;
The WHO lists U.S. life expectancy as 35th in the World. The overwhelming majority of countries with higher rates of LE have public health care much more comprehensive than the U.S.
Conclusion....your full of shit.
lets not forget that with capitalism prices would be about 20% of what they are now so everyone could afford health care, even if only with a tiny subsidy from state govt or local church.
I guess that's why I only paid $5,000 for my new Silverado...hey, wait a minute...
We had that system right up to the time that Medicare was created. No children were turned away because they couldn't pay, and people were not dying on the streets. Medical rates were reasonable, insurance costs were reasonable, and this country prospered. Most hospitals were community or church sponsored, and rich people contributed considerably to the cause, and or course, to get their names on one or more of the buildings.
I imagine that some child, somewhere, was refused medical care because they couldn't pay, but that was definitely not the norm in the USA.
Medicare screwed up our medical care system. Not because it was not a good idea, but because it was run by dumbasses who didn't have any concept of what they were doing. Unlimited amounts of government money sponsored corruption throughout the system, and drove up costs tremendously. Medicaid finished the job, and now we need a new government program to fix the mess created by the existing government programs.
There are more problems caused by profit seeking than anything. We have not produced a cure for anything in a long time because the drug companies concentrate on drug therapies that require you to take a drug for the rest of your life. To contrast, antibiotics were developed by US and British scientists who worked for their governments and gave away the patents for penicillin to the world for free.
Son, I worked for a health insurance company before Medicare went into effect, and you are reciting pure bull shit....
If we want to see firsthand what a government health care system looks like, visit a VA Hospital.
All the employees, from the receptionist to the physicians to the pharmacists are Government employees. The physicians get paid the same if they see 2 patients a day or 50.
Corruption is rampant.
Now boys and girls, you say "capitalist" healthcare system when you should mean a "free market" health care system.
The evil profit motive!
As an example, how many MRI machines are in Canada with it's state run system? What is the wait time to get to one, and how far must they travel?
But here in the US, there are private imaging centers popping up all over. And they charge LESS than the hospitals. Some charge less than HALF. They wouldn't do that if there wasn't a profit in it.
Oh, and just to let you know, New York State has more MRI machines than all of Canada. I live in rural Vermont. I had to have an MRI done last month. I was seen within 36 hours from the time the appointment was made. But I did have to travel all of a half hour to the hospital.
We need to overhaul the entire health insurance system, top to bottom. And in doing so we must touch the third rail of the Democrat party... the LAWYERS! Anybody notice how the lawyers successfully lobbied to not be included in any Ostupidcare reforms?
Our next President should task Dr Ben Carson with overseeing healthcare reform from the top down.
One way is to have all hospitals have a fee schedule for procedures. Some hospitals charge 3 times as much as others for the same thing. But as long as somebody else (insurance) is paying, so what? Right?
That's pretty retarded there, if we had an entirely pay-or-die system the life expectancy of medical professionals would be about five seconds after they turned away someone's dying child.
That's pretty retarded there, if we had an entirely pay-or-die system the life expectancy of medical professionals would be about five seconds after they turned away someone's dying child.
who is talking about pay or die???
A capitalist health care system (whatever that is) would be motivated entirely by the ability to pay, not by empathy or public health or anything else, maybe you need to explain your terms because there is nothing charitable or nice about capitalism.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
of course if true you'd be able to explain why you feel that way! As a liberal of course you can't
I can think of one innovation invented in Soviet Russia without even googling. Look up Radial keratotomy.
That's pretty retarded there, if we had an entirely pay-or-die system the life expectancy of medical professionals would be about five seconds after they turned away someone's dying child.
We had that system right up to the time that Medicare was created.
Exactly -who is talking about pay or die???
A capitalist health care system (whatever that is) would be motivated entirely by the ability to pay, not by empathy or public health or anything else, maybe you need to explain your terms because there is nothing charitable or nice about capitalism.
Well, eddie is back. Welcome there, I guess.
The following is much more accurate: a truly capitalist health care system would result in a possible expectation of living to be 56-66.
