If you were mid-flight @ 25K feet...and someone pulled out a "clock" like Ahmeds...would you worry?

[Pogo]

Highschool freshmen are little idiots. If you're afraid of them you have a problem.

I agree. High school freshmen ARE idiots. They do dumb shit often.....like pranks. Hmmm.

Yeah. Or build a freaking clock, you terrified old pussy.

Gutting a functional clock and shoving it's guts into a metallic case isn't "building" anything.

So I assume your answer on the plane is to ignore it and go to sleep?

Sorry it's not as fun as "knock the brown person unconcious and take the clock" like Billy's solution.

You see its a clock an since a clock is used in a bomb then they believe it could be a bomb despite no bomb being there. Sorta like a clock could be a robot, a computer, a timepiece, microwave etc.....that means all of them are potential bombs

Why, just yesterday Where_R_My_Clues educated us all about how an IED without explosives is still explosive.

Look, we don't need more long threads, this can all be summed up in two handy lines:

(WASP) Schoolkid points finger in gun motion, obviously not a real gun, school freaks out = school bad.

(Black) Schoolkid (with Arabic name) totes electronic tinkering project around, obviously not a real bomb, school freaks out = school good.

I think that about sums it up.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Ooh, that's a good'n.

OK I'd use the phone in the seat to call the Irving Police and have them fly alongside the plane so they could board and interrogate the kid and try to get him to say "clock = bomb". And if he won't do it we wrap a towel around his head and chuck him out over the desert.

Irving Police did not seem concerned enough to evacuate the school or call in a bomb sniffing dog

They couldn't have been that concerned that it was an actual bomb

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

The were testing our alertness. If ignored, then Ahmed would know he can bring a real bomb tomorrow. His father is a radical Islamists.

 

[bucs90]

Ooh, that's a good'n.

OK I'd use the phone in the seat to call the Irving Police and have them fly alongside the plane so they could board and interrogate the kid and try to get him to say "clock = bomb". And if he won't do it we wrap a towel around his head and chuck him out over the desert.

Irving Police did not seem concerned enough to evacuate the school or call in a bomb sniffing dog

They couldn't have been that concerned that it was an actual bomb

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

Depends on the nature and intent of the prank. If it was to kinda joke with friends and that's all....then yeah...it's silly and stupid. IF it was to get a rise out of people...with the INTENT OF getting an overreaction and then he gets to play the victim role and become famous (and help his dad's cause) then it isn't silly. AND....in the radical Muslim culture they send their kids to blow themselves up. You think a dad wouldn't send his kid to pull this attention grabbing hoax?

OR....it truly was just a huge misunderstanding and over reaction to a shitty, poorly reconstructed clock.

But that's why they detained him and thoroughly investigated. Afterall....Texas has been hit by terror attacks several times and there are training camps across their Southern border.

 

[bucs90]

Irving Police did not seem concerned enough to evacuate the school or call in a bomb sniffing dog

They couldn't have been that concerned that it was an actual bomb

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

The were testing our alertness. If ignored, then Ahmed would know he can bring a real bomb tomorrow. His father is a radical Islamists.

There's NO WAY his Dad sent him with this device for a greater Islamic cause. SURE...worldwide we see radical Muslims who send their children strapped with a suicide bomb vest and blown themselves up for Allah. BUT....they wouldnt ever do it with a fake one for a hoax to draw attention haha!! Silly!!

 

[Pogo]

Irving Police did not seem concerned enough to evacuate the school or call in a bomb sniffing dog

They couldn't have been that concerned that it was an actual bomb

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

Depends on the nature and intent of the prank. If it was to kinda joke with friends and that's all....then yeah...it's silly and stupid. IF it was to get a rise out of people...with the INTENT OF getting an overreaction and then he gets to play the victim role and become famous (and help his dad's cause) then it isn't silly. AND....in the radical Muslim culture they send their kids to blow themselves up. You think a dad wouldn't send his kid to pull this attention grabbing hoax?

OR....it truly was just a huge misunderstanding and over reaction to a shitty, poorly reconstructed clock.

But that's why they detained him and thoroughly investigated. Afterall....Texas has been hit by terror attacks several times and there are training camps across their Southern border.

And why'd they continue to investigate after they all knew there was no bomb? Hm?

When you misplace your keys... and then you find them... do you then continue looking for them?

 

[Pogo]

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

The were testing our alertness. If ignored, then Ahmed would know he can bring a real bomb tomorrow. His father is a radical Islamists.

There's NO WAY his Dad sent him with this device for a greater Islamic cause. SURE...worldwide we see radical Muslims who send their children strapped with a suicide bomb vest and blown themselves up for Allah.

Sufis do this?

BUT....they wouldnt ever do it with a fake one for a hoax to draw attention haha!! Silly!!

Au contraire, it's plausible to see this as a deliberate bait set for paranoiacs like you to react exactly as you did -- and even now, still are.

Joke's on you.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I agree. High school freshmen ARE idiots. They do dumb shit often.....like pranks. Hmmm.

Yeah. Or build a freaking clock, you terrified old pussy.

Gutting a functional clock and shoving it's guts into a metallic case isn't "building" anything.

So I assume your answer on the plane is to ignore it and go to sleep?

Sorry it's not as fun as "knock the brown person unconcious and take the clock" like Billy's solution.

You see its a clock an since a clock is used in a bomb then they believe it could be a bomb despite no bomb being there. Sorta like a clock could be a robot, a computer, a timepiece, microwave etc.....that means all of them are potential bombs

Why, just yesterday Where_R_My_Clues educated us all about how an IED without explosives is still explosive.

Look, we don't need more long threads, this can all be summed up in two handy lines:

(WASP) Schoolkid points finger in gun motion, obviously not a real gun, school freaks out = school bad.

(Black) Schoolkid (with Arabic name) totes electronic tinkering project around, obviously not a real bomb, school freaks out = school good.

I think that about sums it up.

But it has nothing to do with what it seems to be at all

 

[bucs90]

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

Depends on the nature and intent of the prank. If it was to kinda joke with friends and that's all....then yeah...it's silly and stupid. IF it was to get a rise out of people...with the INTENT OF getting an overreaction and then he gets to play the victim role and become famous (and help his dad's cause) then it isn't silly. AND....in the radical Muslim culture they send their kids to blow themselves up. You think a dad wouldn't send his kid to pull this attention grabbing hoax?

OR....it truly was just a huge misunderstanding and over reaction to a shitty, poorly reconstructed clock.

But that's why they detained him and thoroughly investigated. Afterall....Texas has been hit by terror attacks several times and there are training camps across their Southern border.

And why'd they continue to investigate after they all knew there was no bomb? Hm?

When you misplace your keys... and then you find them... do you then continue looking for them?

If I find them outside buried in a tin can I'd keep investigating haha. Abnormal events draw attention.

And i already said why. Determining it was not a functional explosive was the easy part. The follow up investigation was about the intent...not the device.

For example....what if a quiet kinda weird heavy metal type 16 year old sat in class all week reading the book "Columbine" and started wearing Virginia Tech t shirts. Kinda odd right? It's just a book and a shirt. Wouldn't you wanna talk to him about it? What if he says only "It's a book and a shirt." And thats all he'd say. I argue you better investigate it further. Talk to parents.

Ahmeds actions and device were abnormal. Sorry....it's just today's society.

 

[bucs90]

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

The were testing our alertness. If ignored, then Ahmed would know he can bring a real bomb tomorrow. His father is a radical Islamists.

There's NO WAY his Dad sent him with this device for a greater Islamic cause. SURE...worldwide we see radical Muslims who send their children strapped with a suicide bomb vest and blown themselves up for Allah.

Sufis do this?

BUT....they wouldnt ever do it with a fake one for a hoax to draw attention haha!! Silly!!

Au contraire, it's plausible to see this as a deliberate bait set for paranoiacs like you to react exactly as you did -- and even now, still are.

Joke's on you.

Wait....so you ARE saying that it's plausible to think Ahmed and his dad DID do this on purpose to elicit a reaction??? Um...yeah...i agree. So you agree the device could cause concern. And his intent may have been exactly that.

Ok. Thanks....i agree.

 

[bodecea]

Let's see...where to begin. This 9th grader did NOT bring his home-made clock onto a plane. There's a lot of things we have around us everyday we do not bring on planes...pretty much anything done in a HS chemistry lab cannot be brought on a plane. We see this boy accused of bringing a SUITCASE sized clock...until you see the picture and realize that it's a pencil case. People say it doesn't look like a clock...until you see the LED screen blanked out because it's UNPLUGGED. People say they thought it was a bomb, until we learn that the school and police didn't go into any bomb threat protocol...and now they go on and on and on about the clock being bought and taken apart as if people expected the freshman to create his own parts........and now they attack his family

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Let's say you are on a flight from LA to NYC. Halfway there at 25,000 feet....you see a male passenger, possibly foreign, pull out a metallic box...open it...and it looks like what Ahmeds "clock" in Texas looked like. Somehow TSA missed it. Or maybe not. You aren't sure. Everyone else is asleep. Only you see it.

What do you do?

Amazing do you ever leave your trailer? So may scary things lurk outside!!!


In your case you would act like a gomer and yell citizens arrest citizens arrest

And look at this folks, two posters actually thanked this moron for this idiotic post !!!

 

[Pogo]

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

Depends on the nature and intent of the prank. If it was to kinda joke with friends and that's all....then yeah...it's silly and stupid. IF it was to get a rise out of people...with the INTENT OF getting an overreaction and then he gets to play the victim role and become famous (and help his dad's cause) then it isn't silly. AND....in the radical Muslim culture they send their kids to blow themselves up. You think a dad wouldn't send his kid to pull this attention grabbing hoax?

OR....it truly was just a huge misunderstanding and over reaction to a shitty, poorly reconstructed clock.

But that's why they detained him and thoroughly investigated. Afterall....Texas has been hit by terror attacks several times and there are training camps across their Southern border.

And why'd they continue to investigate after they all knew there was no bomb? Hm?

When you misplace your keys... and then you find them... do you then continue looking for them?

If I find them outside buried in a tin can I'd keep investigating haha. Abnormal events draw attention.

And i already said why. Determining it was not a functional explosive was the easy part. The follow up investigation was about the intent...not the device.

For example....what if a quiet kinda weird heavy metal type 16 year old sat in class all week reading the book "Columbine" and started wearing Virginia Tech t shirts. Kinda odd right? It's just a book and a shirt. Wouldn't you wanna talk to him about it? What if he says only "It's a book and a shirt." And thats all he'd say. I argue you better investigate it further. Talk to parents.

Ahmeds actions and device were abnormal. Sorry....it's just today's society.

Yes they were abnormal. Two things in this story don't pass the smell test; the first is "I invented a clock". Well... no you didn't, not even the digital kind. If it had some unusual power source or time reference that would be an invention. So there seems to be something underlying there. The second thing that doesn't pass the smell test is the overreaction of the authorities, pulling Achmed out of class, suspending him, taking him to a detention center for interrogation, trying to get him to say it was a bomb, etc..... All AFTER they all know perfectly well it's not a bomb, nor did he ever represent it as such.

These two would seem to be related.

Can you think through why he might have been setting bait like this? Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush by nimrods who can't be bothered to tell political fanatics from simple Muslims?

I just gave you a HUGE clue. See if you can find it. Might want to take the hook, line and sinker out of your mouth too, 'cause it would seem you got played like a cheap banjo.


Anybody lose a set of keys?

 

[bodecea]

Irving Police did not seem concerned enough to evacuate the school or call in a bomb sniffing dog

They couldn't have been that concerned that it was an actual bomb

Nope. They were concerned however with whether or not it was an intentional prank. Which is illegal under Texas law.

By the way....by CALEA national standards of best practice for police agencies....bomb evacuations are only mandated by police when it's CONFIRMED to be a real bomb. Up to that point...the standard is that it's optional....and up to the person in charge of the school or business....not the cops. Irving PD never had the authority to force an evacuation. School did....not PD.

If they were concerned it was a prank, they would need evidence that he tried to represent it as a bomb. That is an intentional prank

There was evidence that he represented it as a clock to his engineering teacher and anyone else who would listen

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

The were testing our alertness. If ignored, then Ahmed would know he can bring a real bomb tomorrow. His father is a radical Islamists.

Riiiight....next they'll be putting a clock/bomb under your bed.

 

[Mac1958]

Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush...

Photo of Americans being painted with the same broad brush, true story:

 

[bucs90]

True. And evidence piece #1 is a device that looks suspicious and could be mistaken for an explosive device by the untrained eye. Similar to how a cop may mistake a toy gun for a real gun. Evidence piece #2 is an engineering teacher who WARNED him not to let others see it. Why? Because that engineering teacher knew it could be mistaken as something dangerous.

Evidence piece #3. Hockmed ignored that warning....and plugged it in during class....in a classroom with a big clock hanging on the wall like all classes have. Why?? Not sure.

There's enough evidence to say he MIGHT have been pulling a prank. Not certainly. Not even probably. But maybe.

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

Depends on the nature and intent of the prank. If it was to kinda joke with friends and that's all....then yeah...it's silly and stupid. IF it was to get a rise out of people...with the INTENT OF getting an overreaction and then he gets to play the victim role and become famous (and help his dad's cause) then it isn't silly. AND....in the radical Muslim culture they send their kids to blow themselves up. You think a dad wouldn't send his kid to pull this attention grabbing hoax?

OR....it truly was just a huge misunderstanding and over reaction to a shitty, poorly reconstructed clock.

But that's why they detained him and thoroughly investigated. Afterall....Texas has been hit by terror attacks several times and there are training camps across their Southern border.

And why'd they continue to investigate after they all knew there was no bomb? Hm?

When you misplace your keys... and then you find them... do you then continue looking for them?

If I find them outside buried in a tin can I'd keep investigating haha. Abnormal events draw attention.

And i already said why. Determining it was not a functional explosive was the easy part. The follow up investigation was about the intent...not the device.

For example....what if a quiet kinda weird heavy metal type 16 year old sat in class all week reading the book "Columbine" and started wearing Virginia Tech t shirts. Kinda odd right? It's just a book and a shirt. Wouldn't you wanna talk to him about it? What if he says only "It's a book and a shirt." And thats all he'd say. I argue you better investigate it further. Talk to parents.

Ahmeds actions and device were abnormal. Sorry....it's just today's society.

Yes they were abnormal. Two things in this story don't pass the smell test; the first is "I invented a clock". Well... no you didn't, not even the digital kind. If it had some unusual power source or time reference that would be an invention. So there seems to be something underlying there. The second thing that doesn't pass the smell test is the overreaction of the authorities, pulling Achmed out of class, suspending him, taking him to a detention center for interrogation, trying to get him to say it was a bomb, etc..... All AFTER they all know perfectly well it's not a bomb, nor did he ever represent it as such.

These two would seem to be related.

Can you think through why he might have been setting bait like this? Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush by nimrods who can't be bothered to tell political fanatics from simple Muslims?

I just gave you a HUGE clue. See if you can find it. Might want to take the hook, line and sinker out of your mouth too, 'cause it would seem you got played like a cheap banjo.


Anybody lose a set of keys?

So to be clear....you ARE saying that you think it's possible that Ahmed and his Muslim family did this on purpose and wanted this reaction???

 

[bucs90]

Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush...

Photo of Americans being painted with the same broad brush, true story:

You racist....it was just a box cutter.

 

[rightwinger]

Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush...

Photo of Americans being painted with the same broad brush, true story:

All that with just a CLOCK?

 

[Mac1958]

Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush...

Photo of Americans being painted with the same broad brush, true story:

All that with just a CLOCK?

Get this, they didn't even NEED clocks!
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[bucs90]

Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush...

Photo of Americans being painted with the same broad brush, true story:

All that with just a CLOCK?

Actually....just a box cutter.

 

[Pogo]

Again, a prank is a prank

If he had road flares wrapped in tape with an alarm clock and told people that it was a bomb...that would be a hoax

He had an electronic device which he explained the purpose of. He did not hide it, he openly showed it to his engineering teacher. The school should have asked the teacher if his story was true. Once the teacher verified his story, the kid should have been released......no handcuffs, no jail

Depends on the nature and intent of the prank. If it was to kinda joke with friends and that's all....then yeah...it's silly and stupid. IF it was to get a rise out of people...with the INTENT OF getting an overreaction and then he gets to play the victim role and become famous (and help his dad's cause) then it isn't silly. AND....in the radical Muslim culture they send their kids to blow themselves up. You think a dad wouldn't send his kid to pull this attention grabbing hoax?

OR....it truly was just a huge misunderstanding and over reaction to a shitty, poorly reconstructed clock.

But that's why they detained him and thoroughly investigated. Afterall....Texas has been hit by terror attacks several times and there are training camps across their Southern border.

And why'd they continue to investigate after they all knew there was no bomb? Hm?

When you misplace your keys... and then you find them... do you then continue looking for them?

If I find them outside buried in a tin can I'd keep investigating haha. Abnormal events draw attention.

And i already said why. Determining it was not a functional explosive was the easy part. The follow up investigation was about the intent...not the device.

For example....what if a quiet kinda weird heavy metal type 16 year old sat in class all week reading the book "Columbine" and started wearing Virginia Tech t shirts. Kinda odd right? It's just a book and a shirt. Wouldn't you wanna talk to him about it? What if he says only "It's a book and a shirt." And thats all he'd say. I argue you better investigate it further. Talk to parents.

Ahmeds actions and device were abnormal. Sorry....it's just today's society.

Yes they were abnormal. Two things in this story don't pass the smell test; the first is "I invented a clock". Well... no you didn't, not even the digital kind. If it had some unusual power source or time reference that would be an invention. So there seems to be something underlying there. The second thing that doesn't pass the smell test is the overreaction of the authorities, pulling Achmed out of class, suspending him, taking him to a detention center for interrogation, trying to get him to say it was a bomb, etc..... All AFTER they all know perfectly well it's not a bomb, nor did he ever represent it as such.

These two would seem to be related.

Can you think through why he might have been setting bait like this? Oh I dunno, possibly because Muslims are fucking sick and tired of having themselves painted with the same broad brush by nimrods who can't be bothered to tell political fanatics from simple Muslims?

I just gave you a HUGE clue. See if you can find it. Might want to take the hook, line and sinker out of your mouth too, 'cause it would seem you got played like a cheap banjo.


Anybody lose a set of keys?

So to be clear....you ARE saying that you think it's possible that Ahmed and his Muslim family did this on purpose and wanted this reaction???

Duh. Yes. And you gave it to them.
As I said --- you're a banjo and you just got picked.

--with at least three fingers.