Im ready to curb gun murders. Lets work together

[Brain357]

According to a 2016 analysis of federal data by the U.S. Education Department, state and local spending on incarceration has grown three times as much as spending on public education since 1980.[18]

 

[2aguy]

So crime going down in Milwaukee....after Wisconsin passed concealed carry is bad?

“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

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Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

You have no idea what you are talking about....

“It’s very disheartening:” Milwaukee sees its deadliest month in over 2 decades

You missed this link....


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

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Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

The city has more than one neighborhood. Cherry picking?

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

 

[2aguy]

According to a 2016 analysis of federal data by the U.S. Education Department, state and local spending on incarceration has grown three times as much as spending on public education since 1980.[18]

So.....the opposite of locking up violent criminals who carry and use guns illegally, is to allow them to walk around and murder people...is that what you want?

 

[Brain357]

The School-to-Prison Pipeline: Early Education Inequality Shapes Incarceration in US and Brazil

 

[2aguy]

The School-to-Prison Pipeline: Early Education Inequality Shapes Incarceration in US and Brazil

So...your solution is to let violent criminals with long histories of violence, crime and illegal gun carrying to walk the streets?

 

[Brain357]

“It’s very disheartening:” Milwaukee sees its deadliest month in over 2 decades

You missed this link....


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

The city has more than one neighborhood. Cherry picking?

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

 

[Brain357]

The School-to-Prison Pipeline: Early Education Inequality Shapes Incarceration in US and Brazil

So...your solution is to let violent criminals with long histories of violence, crime and illegal gun carrying to walk the streets?

I haven't said anything like that. You still don't read very well.

 

[ricechickie]

You missed this link....


“You’re seeing a rebirth:” Crime rates in Milwaukee’s Amani neighborhood down significantly

The data shows crime in 2016 compared with 2015 was down in the Amani neighborhood by 10.42%. For the city as a whole, the decline was 4.66%.

---

Over the past four years: crime in the Amani neighborhood declined 26.36% -- for the city: 10.86%.

The city has more than one neighborhood. Cherry picking?

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

 

[Iceweasel]

According to a 2016 analysis of federal data by the U.S. Education Department, state and local spending on incarceration has grown three times as much as spending on public education since 1980.[18]

Yep, we have too many liberals breaking the law. Your point? We should legalize more to make them happy?

 

[Iceweasel]

The city has more than one neighborhood. Cherry picking?

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Ding ding ding. That's why I want a gun when I go out. duh!

 

[2aguy]

The city has more than one neighborhood. Cherry picking?

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Yes...they look for Gun Free Zones forced on us by left wing, anti gunners......where the law abiding people are unable to defend themselves.

 

[ricechickie]

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Ding ding ding. That's why I want a gun when I go out. duh!

Understood. But in the regulation aspect, why focus so hard on gangs, when it is the mentally ill grudge-holders that are causing such carnage among the innocent?

 

[Timmy]

A big concern is young people getting ahold of guns . And idiot 20 year old is going to be a trigger happy asshole.

Street guns are too cheap. Gun registration makes straw purchases harder to do , which drives up black market prices . Hopefully pricing out youngsters looking for a gun.

 

[Brain357]

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Ding ding ding. That's why I want a gun when I go out. duh!

Your chance of being in a mass shooting is about 0. You wear a helmet when you drive?

 

[Brain357]

According to a 2016 analysis of federal data by the U.S. Education Department, state and local spending on incarceration has grown three times as much as spending on public education since 1980.[18]

Yep, we have too many liberals breaking the law. Your point? We should legalize more to make them happy?

Point is we are doing something wrong. Highest incarceration rate and far from lowest crime rates.

 

[ricechickie]

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Yes...they look for Gun Free Zones forced on us by left wing, anti gunners......where the law abiding people are unable to defend themselves.

Hold your horses. I'm not so anti-gun to want to deny anyone the right to carry......but I'm not so convinced that a civilian would have a great chance to take out a shooter in a crowded, confused mass shooting scenario. Or if there would be more of a chance of people caught in crossfire. Simply having the gun isn't enough; the person needs to be well-trained and practiced.

 

[2aguy]

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Ding ding ding. That's why I want a gun when I go out. duh!

Understood. But in the regulation aspect, why focus so hard on gangs, when it is the mentally ill grudge-holders that are causing such carnage among the innocent?

Because in reality...it isn't mass shooters causing the damage to the innocent in the same numbers as gang members do when they hit innocent people...or when other criminals shoot innocent people...

This is a list of mass public shootings from Mother Jones, and Anti gun website.....they list all the mass shootings and how many were killed....in a nation of 320 million people...mass public shootings are rare and don't kill as many people as criminals do...

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2016: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation



How many deaths on average according to Mother Jones...anti gun, uber left wing Mother Jones.......each year, well less than 73.

2016.....71

2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42 ( Columbine)
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994...5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35 (Looby's cafe)
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1984...28
1983...none listed
1982...8

 

[Brain357]

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Yes...they look for Gun Free Zones forced on us by left wing, anti gunners......where the law abiding people are unable to defend themselves.

Like Orlando where there was armed security?

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Troll...

for the city: 10.86%.

Holmes' children were two of the 145 homicide victims in Milwaukee last year.

It was the highest number of homicides since 1993, when 160 people were killed in the city.

The spike was a nearly 69% increase from 2014 — a year-to-year increase higher than the headline-grabbing changes reported in Baltimore, St. Louis and Washington, D.C.

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Yes...they look for Gun Free Zones forced on us by left wing, anti gunners......where the law abiding people are unable to defend themselves.

I guess Liberals forced Gun Shows to be gun free? Why are Gun Shows Gun Free Zones? Almost sounds like an oxymoron.

 

[Brain357]

And the shooters could not legally buy, own or carry a gun....and the victims were also other criminals or their friends and family.....

and the crime rate for Milwaukee is down over 10%......if you aren't a criminal or the friend or family member of a criminal...you are not likely to be shot......

AGain...it is criminals, not law abiding people carrying guns....who need to be controlled.

Which makes you wonder why law abiding feel they need a gun. They are quite safe.

Ding ding ding!

Innocent people are not killed in droves by gangs. Gangs kill other gangs.

Mass shooters, on the other hand, seek out innocent victims in crowded places like schools, movie theaters, and restaurants.

Ding ding ding. That's why I want a gun when I go out. duh!

Understood. But in the regulation aspect, why focus so hard on gangs, when it is the mentally ill grudge-holders that are causing such carnage among the innocent?

Because in reality...it isn't mass shooters causing the damage to the innocent in the same numbers as gang members do when they hit innocent people...or when other criminals shoot innocent people...

This is a list of mass public shootings from Mother Jones, and Anti gun website.....they list all the mass shootings and how many were killed....in a nation of 320 million people...mass public shootings are rare and don't kill as many people as criminals do...

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2017: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2016: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation



How many deaths on average according to Mother Jones...anti gun, uber left wing Mother Jones.......each year, well less than 73.

2016.....71

2015......37
2014..... 9
2013..... 36
2012..... 72
2011..... 19
2010....9
2009...39
2008...18
2007...54
2006...21
2005...17
2004...5
2003...7
2002...not listed by mother jones
2001...5
2000...7
1999...42 ( Columbine)
1998...14
1997...9
1996...6
1995...6
1994...5
1993...23
1992...9
1991...35 (Looby's cafe)
1990...10
1989...15
1988...7
1987...6
1984...28
1983...none listed
1982...8

Those numbers are a reason to carry? That is some serious scared paranoia.