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it will be interesting how this new trial plays out
her self defense claim was on shaky ground from the beginning
however the instructions according to the appeals court was wrong
it suggested that she needed to be physically attacked in order
to use self defense which is totally false
and perhaps why the jury returned a verdict in less then a 1/2 hour
I don't think she'll win on self defense in the second trial either. She left the house, got the gun from her car, then came back in and fired the shot. By leaving the house, she removed herself from the danger. She could have simply gotten in the car and drove away. Or run to a neighbor's house and called the cops.
By returning and firing the gun, she became the aggressor. She's just lucky her husband didn't have a gun and stand his ground.
true
however she said she had to return through the house to leave
because the garage door didnt work
it is possible that an abusive mate unplugged the garage door opener
rendering the door in operable
Also the restraining orders. She couldn't stay away from him.
She was still on a previous domestic.
I'll have to pull up the details.
Good golly! Will they stream it?!!
Yay!
She was still on a previous domestic.
did she had a current restraining order against her
I can only hope that there is another Mark O'Mara who can strategize and come up with 'something'. Somewhere in the vast wilderness of --'self defense'/your life is in mortal danger--he tried to strangle her and shoved her with force.
And on the other end of the spectrum--? not certain which state--the guy who raped a 14 yr old student has been released after serving 30 days in jail. Neither sentence was just.
What should I learn from these legal examples? If you are in mortal danger--call 911--if LE cannot respond in time --then that is that. Another reason that I would be reluctant to own and use a gun.
I need more coffee--during the Zimmerman trial--many of the same points were raised--in my fog I remember them vaguely. GZ was the aggressor, then Trayvon was the aggressor--in the heat of the moment roles changed. Just too befuddled to get past the point that her husband strangled her--stimulating the response to 'mortal danger'--seems like a skilled attorney could explore that more fully. In the same situation what would I do--he had the children with him--would I think running out of the house to save myself was the right thing to do? Would I have worried about the kids? Doubtful that I would be thinking very clearly.
There really is no room for any attorney to claim she was in mortal danger. The second she walked out the door, that argument was nullified. If she was worried about the kids, a call to the local cop shop will get her the help she needed to rescue the kids in a legal manner. Instead, she decided to go to the car, acquire a gun, and go back inside to 'teach him a lesson'.
She was in the wrong, pure and simple. And she will have to pay for what she alone decided to do.
well- that settles the matter.
Sounds like she will pay dearly. Not so certain I agree--and that is of no importance.
Thank God her poor husband is healthy and able to live his life fully. The State certainly stood its ground...
Also the restraining orders. She couldn't stay away from him.
She was still on a previous domestic.
I'll have to pull up the details.
Good golly! Will they stream it?!!
Yay!
She was still on a previous domestic.
did she had a current restraining order against her
I can't remember the specifics and I'm out.
This was not her first offense she was on another one with him and she was not supposed to be there. Either because of restraining or the other offense.
I'll pull the docs when I get home.
On Aug. 1, 2010, Alexander was working for a payroll software company. She was estranged from her husband, Rico Gray, and had a restraining order against him, even though they'd had a baby together just nine days earlier. Thinking he was gone, she went to their former home to retrieve the rest of her clothes, family members said.
I don't think she'll win on self defense in the second trial either. She left the house, got the gun from her car, then came back in and fired the shot. By leaving the house, she removed herself from the danger. She could have simply gotten in the car and drove away. Or run to a neighbor's house and called the cops.
By returning and firing the gun, she became the aggressor. She's just lucky her husband didn't have a gun and stand his ground.
true
however she said she had to return through the house to leave
because the garage door didnt work
it is possible that an abusive mate unplugged the garage door opener
rendering the door in operable
Every electric door opener has a manual release for when the power is out, or if the motor breaks down. Also, every garage has to have windows that can be opened for ventilation per code in case you are working on your car inside the garage.
Also the restraining orders. She couldn't stay away from him.
She was still on a previous domestic.
I'll have to pull up the details.
Good golly! Will they stream it?!!
Yay!
She was still on a previous domestic.
did she had a current restraining order against her
I can't remember the specifics and I'm out.
This was not her first offense she was on another one with him and she was not supposed to be there. Either because of restraining or the other offense.
I'll pull the docs when I get home.
She was still on a previous domestic.
did she had a current restraining order against her
I can't remember the specifics and I'm out.
This was not her first offense she was on another one with him and she was not supposed to be there. Either because of restraining or the other offense.
I'll pull the docs when I get home.
She had the restraining order against him.
On Aug. 1, 2010, Alexander was working for a payroll software company. She was estranged from her husband, Rico Gray, and had a restraining order against him, even though they'd had a baby together just nine days earlier. Thinking he was gone, she went to their former home to retrieve the rest of her clothes, family members said.
Marissa Alexander, Woman Sentenced To 20 Years For Firing Warning Shot, Gets New Trial
I can't remember the specifics and I'm out.
This was not her first offense she was on another one with him and she was not supposed to be there. Either because of restraining or the other offense.
I'll pull the docs when I get home.
She had the restraining order against him.
On Aug. 1, 2010, Alexander was working for a payroll software company. She was estranged from her husband, Rico Gray, and had a restraining order against him, even though they'd had a baby together just nine days earlier. Thinking he was gone, she went to their former home to retrieve the rest of her clothes, family members said.
Marissa Alexander, Woman Sentenced To 20 Years For Firing Warning Shot, Gets New Trial
She had the restraining order against him.
that is even better
in the dysfunctional relationship bid
She had the restraining order against him.
Marissa Alexander, Woman Sentenced To 20 Years For Firing Warning Shot, Gets New Trial
She had the restraining order against him.
that is even better
in the dysfunctional relationship bid
It also begs the question of why did she go there without someone to back her up in case he was there?
At least there's something to give Chubbsy Ubbsey Shellie Z credit for. She had her dad go with her in case George was at the house.
Jacksonville woman sentenced to 20 years in prison in 'Stand Your Ground' controversy | jacksonville.com
Down at the bottom she was charged too.
This was a volatile relationship. I don't think she can claim self defense in this situation but the sentence she got was insane. Fl has mandatory sentencing that trapped her.
Jacksonville woman sentenced to 20 years in prison in 'Stand Your Ground' controversy | jacksonville.com
Down at the bottom she was charged too.
This was a volatile relationship. I don't think she can claim self defense in this situation but the sentence she got was insane. Fl has mandatory sentencing that trapped her.
Nitwit says he stabbed himself in the arm "because that's what I wanted to do". 
They lost defendant Lisa Barnhart. 
