Induced abortion first proposed in the west by sexual deviant Marquis de Sade

[IndependantAce]

Abortion's modern popularity was apparently started by sex criminal Marquis de Sade who was an advocate of rape, incest, and pedophilia (and who the term "sadism" comes from)

I find it interesting that this is the type of bedfellow the pro-abortion ideologies have.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1154775/pdf/jmedeth00158-0011.pdf

In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his La Philosophie dans le boudoir, in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of population control. It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.

 

[The Great Goose]

Eve and the apple.

 

[Political Junky]

I'm sure abortions have been performed for centuries before that.

 

[emilynghiem]

Dear IndependantAce
1. If you look up the Hippocratic Oath, this mentions abortion as a violation.
How old is that oath?
2. Natural herbs such as pennyroyal and rue have long been used as abortifacients.
How much of the modern politicization of this issue is tied with
replacing natural childbirth with dependence on hospitals,
and natural herbs with dependence on lab tested pharmaceuticals.

How much of this trend is from political and economic profit?

 

[emilynghiem]

Eve and the apple.

Dear The Great Goose

If you've ever heard of "The Chalice and the Blade" or "When God was a Woman"
many feminists blame the rise of oppression on the censorship of natural
knowledge (represented by the serpent that still appears on the medical caduceus symbol)
that was "demonized as Satan"
by the tribes pushing Mosaic Laws that made women subjugate to man, and
wiped out the female goddess tribes that worshipped the Queen of Heaven
to replace the matriarchal cultures with patriarchal traditions of primogeniture and feudal lordships.

Most of the modern feminism I see is in reaction against the dominance of patriarchy in most cultures, saves place like Iceland and some tribes here and there that may still carry remnants of matriarchy from older earth-centered cultures.

Now, from my Christian knowledge and understanding, there are valid reasons for
rejecting Witchcraft and occult practices carried by many pagan and earth-worship traditions.
The dark energy and disruptions caused by the clash of demonic influences mixed with positive life energy REALLY does cause sickness and problems for people.

But this is SEPARATE from "natural laws" that are either neutral or good and true for all people.
If people can't make this distinction, they tend to reject each other over fear of "evil" or "greed for power" blamed on one tribe by another.

The Great Goose you mentioned before that you blamed the current
social progressive conflicts on women-driven politics.
Do you mean the reaction to male patriarchal bias has gone too far?

Where do you draw the line historically as to when this female-dominated trend came from?
Was it evil to begin with, and that's what Eve and the Serpent represents, and people are digging this back up?

Or do you acknowledge the historic oppression of women by men (also portrayed as
class oppression of poor workers by richer land owners),
and blame the female driven politics as a wrongful way of overreacting to that.

and if so, what better way do you propose to correct these wrongs?
Thanks The Great Goose
Since this thread is about the history of abortion, can you respond in that framework
to stay on topic, or please start a new thread if your answer goes outside this context?