Integrity On Sale

[Arianrhod]

Theowl, I am not as cynical as you are. It is an undeniable fact that if we cut out even 1/5th of the waste and freeze government spending at current levels, that we could theoretically balance the budget in a few short years, even at current tax income levels. Make the economy grow faster, and that takes even more time off the clock to balance.

The problem really lies with entitlements, and unfunded liabilities that are purposely off the books. (who would have thunk it, our beloved government hiding the truth from its citizens, the owners of the country) Congress doesn't want to touch this, we both know it. If we can't show them we are done with their crapola, they won't, AGAIN! But, if we impose our will upon this election, we have at least a chance of higher probability of this happening. No promise, no absolute, just a higher probability.

How many of us work hard each and every day, or are retired, and to get where we are, we did work hard each and every day? Are we willing just to throw our hands in the air and say "forget it, all that hard work means nothing and give it away?" Let our children and grandchildren, or the younger people on this board and across the country have a collapsed country?

I refuse! I love my kids, my grandchildren, and yes...........even my fellow countrymen who are libs who do not know any better. If we do not step up, who will? If not now, when? It is never to late, it is our duty to figure out how to turn "to late," into "not to late!" We are Americans, and if anyone can do it, it is us.

Yes, but what you need to know is there isn't anyone that represents US. Or WE THE PEOPLE.

The establishment republicans are virtually as bad as the democrats. Yes, they are also bought and paid for. It is that clear. I mean we have been doing this for a while now, as far as imposing our will on them.

I for a brief moment felt a sliver of hope with the rise of the Tea Party. Only to see how committed the mass media is and how effective they are in pushing a narrative and absolutely crushing anyone opposed to socialism. Look at how their stupid fucking sheep still equate the Tea Party to rich white ringers and somehow they equate it to the KKK.

The Tea Party movement was so effective that it got people like Allen West elected. Only to see him gerrymandered out of his office BY THE REPUBLICANS in the very next election in 2014. When they found that Allen West was not going to "play ball" and that he actually meant what he said, they knew they needed to get rid of him.

That is what virtually all of them are. I am sorry, I felt the hope a few years ago. At some point we need to be able to read the writing on the wall. It is pretty clear to me what it is.

I am sorry you feel that way, but yes, I understand it. This is why I do a two pronged approach and fight for a decent outsider, while working for an article 5 convention.

It is obvious that neither side wants to educate the people on what is actually going on, so as to keep the electorate dumb. They like status quo.

I hope at sometime in the near future, you will re-evaluate your position, and change your mind. People who understand the facts in evidence are hard to come by. Losing such an asset is a big loss, but I do understand your position.

Thanks for responding. Maybe I can change your mind further down the road, I certainly hope so.

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it."

George bernard shaw

And the accuracy of one poster's observation from the safety of his keyboard in the absence of actual experience or reference to credible source material is no more nor less than any other's.

And GBS would have snubbed you for your laziness in typing his name.

Dear Lord I fucking hate liberals.

Then you'll need to hone your skills to combat us. I'd recommend a healthy respect for the Shift key, for starters.

 

[imawhosure]

Theowl, I am not as cynical as you are. It is an undeniable fact that if we cut out even 1/5th of the waste and freeze government spending at current levels, that we could theoretically balance the budget in a few short years, even at current tax income levels. Make the economy grow faster, and that takes even more time off the clock to balance.

The problem really lies with entitlements, and unfunded liabilities that are purposely off the books. (who would have thunk it, our beloved government hiding the truth from its citizens, the owners of the country) Congress doesn't want to touch this, we both know it. If we can't show them we are done with their crapola, they won't, AGAIN! But, if we impose our will upon this election, we have at least a chance of higher probability of this happening. No promise, no absolute, just a higher probability.

How many of us work hard each and every day, or are retired, and to get where we are, we did work hard each and every day? Are we willing just to throw our hands in the air and say "forget it, all that hard work means nothing and give it away?" Let our children and grandchildren, or the younger people on this board and across the country have a collapsed country?

I refuse! I love my kids, my grandchildren, and yes...........even my fellow countrymen who are libs who do not know any better. If we do not step up, who will? If not now, when? It is never to late, it is our duty to figure out how to turn "to late," into "not to late!" We are Americans, and if anyone can do it, it is us.

Yes, but what you need to know is there isn't anyone that represents US. Or WE THE PEOPLE.

The establishment republicans are virtually as bad as the democrats. Yes, they are also bought and paid for. It is that clear. I mean we have been doing this for a while now, as far as imposing our will on them.

I for a brief moment felt a sliver of hope with the rise of the Tea Party. Only to see how committed the mass media is and how effective they are in pushing a narrative and absolutely crushing anyone opposed to socialism. Look at how their stupid fucking sheep still equate the Tea Party to rich white ringers and somehow they equate it to the KKK.

The Tea Party movement was so effective that it got people like Allen West elected. Only to see him gerrymandered out of his office BY THE REPUBLICANS in the very next election in 2014. When they found that Allen West was not going to "play ball" and that he actually meant what he said, they knew they needed to get rid of him.

That is what virtually all of them are. I am sorry, I felt the hope a few years ago. At some point we need to be able to read the writing on the wall. It is pretty clear to me what it is.

I am sorry you feel that way, but yes, I understand it. This is why I do a two pronged approach and fight for a decent outsider, while working for an article 5 convention.

It is obvious that neither side wants to educate the people on what is actually going on, so as to keep the electorate dumb. They like status quo.

I hope at sometime in the near future, you will re-evaluate your position, and change your mind. People who understand the facts in evidence are hard to come by. Losing such an asset is a big loss, but I do understand your position.

Thanks for responding. Maybe I can change your mind further down the road, I certainly hope so.

"The power of accurate observation is often called cynicism by those who don't have it."

George bernard shaw

And the accuracy of one poster's observation from the safety of his keyboard in the absence of actual experience or reference to credible source material is no more nor less than any other's.

And GBS would have snubbed you for your laziness in typing his name.

Dear Lord I fucking hate liberals.

My friend, you are NOT the Lone Ranger on that one, lol!

 

[Arianrhod]

If you can't refute us, I guess the only thing you can do is talk about us as if we're not here. Schoolyard tactics...in a thread about integrity.

 

[imawhosure]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

 

[Arianrhod]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

 

[imawhosure]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

 

[the_human_being]

All of them are going down:

State Department Will Release Emails of Clinton's Top Aide Huma Abedin

 

[Arianrhod]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

I certainly won't be voting for Trump or Cruz. That's all you need to know.

 

[Theowl32]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

I certainly won't be voting for Trump or Cruz. That's all you need to know.

All I do know is you are a fucking moron. That, is all I know about you and the only thing I need to know about you.

You stupid arrogant left wing pile of hypocritical shit.

 

[imawhosure]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

I certainly won't be voting for Trump or Cruz. That's all you need to know.

OK then, you have stated your position as thinking Hillary is a crook, and you will be voting 3rd party to show your disgust with both repubs and dems. I accept that as a more than reasonable position.

Many of of my posts are pro Conservative, but many of my posts are also about analytics of the situation. Oh sure, I root for the home team, as it were; but I also understand the fracturing of the American political system.

Let me suggest to you, that to find the perfect political candidate is akin to searching for Shang-ri-La. It isn't going to happen, and if it does, they will more than likely let you down somewhere along the line more often than not. Our political class breaks it word more than they break bread.

Still, you choosing a candidate you believe in MOSTLY that is running and viable, is a better choice than 3rd party. It doesn't make much difference to me if it is repub or dem, since wanting an overwhelming mandate from either side, is better than electing someone who wins by a razor thin margin. It gives the opposition a better view of what is the next move; and having 2 viable parties, is the best thing for America should/if/when the pendulum swings to far.

Thanks for responding!

 

[Arianrhod]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

I certainly won't be voting for Trump or Cruz. That's all you need to know.

All I do know is you are a fucking moron. That, is all I know about you and the only thing I need to know about you.

You stupid arrogant left wing pile of hypocritical shit.

Because I suggested you use upper-case letters in proper names? Sensitive much?

 

[Arianrhod]

OK then, you have stated your position as thinking Hillary is a crook, and you will be voting 3rd party to show your disgust with both repubs and dems. I accept that as a more than reasonable position.

Now it's my turn to commend you...on your vivid imagination.

 

[Theowl32]

Integrity, Hillary, don't belong in the same paragraph, let alone sentence. So until you give us a standard bearer on your side with credibility in integrity, answering lefty questions on integrity are a useless exercise, and a total waste of time-)

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

I certainly won't be voting for Trump or Cruz. That's all you need to know.

All I do know is you are a fucking moron. That, is all I know about you and the only thing I need to know about you.

You stupid arrogant left wing pile of hypocritical shit.

Because I suggested you use upper-case letters in proper names? Sensitive much?

Fuck you

 

[Arianrhod]

Your assumption that all liberals are Hillary supporters is risible. But if it serves as a buffer between you and reality, I understand your need to feel safe.

Well then, I apologize. Does that mean you will not be voting for Hillary if she is the DNC nominee? If so, I commend your ethics!

I certainly won't be voting for Trump or Cruz. That's all you need to know.

All I do know is you are a fucking moron. That, is all I know about you and the only thing I need to know about you.

You stupid arrogant left wing pile of hypocritical shit.

Because I suggested you use upper-case letters in proper names? Sensitive much?

Fuck you

That's twice now. Post it again.

 

[imawhosure]

OK then, you have stated your position as thinking Hillary is a crook, and you will be voting 3rd party to show your disgust with both repubs and dems. I accept that as a more than reasonable position.

Now it's my turn to commend you...on your vivid imagination.

Wow, is that how YOU talk to people who commend your view? Who would have thunk it!

As they say going South.............don't let the White House door hit you in the derriere as you and your party are unceremoniously removed from power, state power included-) Remember, if we win the White House, your people control, absolutely NOTHING, ZILCH, forget about it!

 

[Arianrhod]

OK then, you have stated your position as thinking Hillary is a crook, and you will be voting 3rd party to show your disgust with both repubs and dems. I accept that as a more than reasonable position.

Now it's my turn to commend you...on your vivid imagination.

Wow, is that how YOU talk to people who commend your view? Who would have thunk it!

As they say going South.............don't let the White House door hit you in the derriere as you and your party are unceremoniously removed from power, state power included-)

According to your prognostications, I'll be voting third party. Which third party do you figure has an actual shot at the WH?

 

[imawhosure]

None! I was thinking of your idealism. I am willing to accept less then a perfect candidate, then put pressure on them by political means to change their tune if the American citizenry join in. I don't believe in Shang-ri-La. Politics suck, but we have to control them, or we are just peons, now aren't we.

 

[Arianrhod]

^Couldn't agree more!

 

[imawhosure]

If the Democrats had the gonads to control Obama from over reach, their agenda would be virtually cemented. Unfortunately/fortunately, depending upon how you look at it, they decided NOT to control him, and let him go overboard. The left created Trump and Cruz, along with establishment rinos, and now they complain vociferously that they are the devil incarnate. I am not a bible thumper, but the truth is, you reap what you sow! Congrats on awakening those who have not voted in years, and will be the vehicle, to push you into the abyss of power.

 

[imawhosure]

None! I was thinking of your idealism. I am willing to accept less then a perfect candidate, then put pressure on them by political means to change their tune if the American citizenry join in. I don't believe in Shang-ri-La. Politics suck, but we have to control them, or we are just peons, now aren't we.

Then we agree, just take different avenues to accomplish it. I wish you well in your endeavors.