Intelligence Community: On second thought, Hillary's emails did not contain top secrets

[billyerock1991]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

Unless the FBI has an e-mail with a thread titled 'Our top secret stuff" addressed to [email protected], no reasonable person is going to really think Hillary did anything wrong.

Hey, here's a crazy idea. How about you guys nominate a candidate who doesn't think crazy shit like Mexicans are all rapists or the Pyramids were grain silos and then we can have a sensible discussion about whether or not that person might be a better president than Mrs. Clinton.

best post I've read so far ... I still chuckling !!!!

 

[billyerock1991]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

Unless the FBI has an e-mail with a thread titled 'Our top secret stuff" addressed to [email protected], no reasonable person is going to really think Hillary did anything wrong.

Hey, here's a crazy idea. How about you guys nominate a candidate who doesn't think crazy shit like Mexicans are all rapists or the Pyramids were grain silos and then we can have a sensible discussion about whether or not that person might be a better president than Mrs. Clinton.

Great deflection there regressivecrat.

why didn't you show us a email that she is in violation here??? could it be that you are the Great deflection repub-lie-can't ???? could you???

 

[Care4all]

Classified at birth, and Hillary had classification authority for material that came in (but NOT declassifition authority, which is reserved for the ORIGINATOR of the material)...

Now, state your service and clearance, DUMBASS...

Duh
Since the information in the emails Came From the PUBLIC, IT WAS PUBLIC INFORMATION, not classified at its origin.

 

[billyerock1991]

The "TWO" emails (actually three) that are being debated as "Top Secret" (actually HIGHER than T.S) are something the public will never know.. And the crap in the OP about "anonymous sources" is no confirmation of anything.

There are still HUNDREDS of sensitive classified documents IDENTIFIED by multiple govt agencies that this idiot politician allowed on the same computer account as her yoga friends..

what now is her yoga friend not allowed to contact her ??? because you think they don't have the right to have her Email address ??? really you want to go their too?? it just amazes how you hate DEM/Libberal and hillary so much that everything you hear you will believe ever allegation first as long as its not in DEM/Libberal and hillary favor....

now your first paragraph
Bigger then life ... right in front of all to see you said "that are being debated" you didn't say, "they are Top Secret" (actually HIGHER than T.S)" you clearly said they are being debated ... again your hate towards Dems/liberals and anything hillary must be eating you alive inside ... come back here when they can actually say they are Top Secret" (actually HIGHER than T.S) right now you're just spewing your hate towards us DEMS/LIBERALS and anything Hillary Clinton

P.S.
WHAT is higher then top Secret??? "super duper top top Secret"??? what you people will say to justify your post...

 

[Freewill]

I guess that intelligence community really isn't that intelligent. Either they did contain classified information, top secret or otherwise, or they didn't. Them changing their mind sounds like, "Mrs. Clinton is just too big."

 

[billyerock1991]

Great deflection there regressivecrat.

Not a deflection at all. Unless you have DAMNING evidence, you guys are not going to get the legal system to do what you can't accomplish at the ballot box without stealing an election.

People are not going to charge "The Most Admired Woman in America' with a crime unless you can show something really bad happened. Certainly not with a DC Jury pool

ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Most mistrusted woman in America is more like it, or haven't you seen to polls lately? Only ones standing by her are scumbags and just like her.

the reason she is said to be a liar is because republicans like yourself, have been convicting her in the press... you said she lied about benghazi ... so far that turned out to be a right wing lying which hunt... that lost cause didn't work out for you ... mean while her trust factor after the benghazi hearing with the people went up some but not hight enough over 50% still in the upper 30's that's because of these alleged violation in her email ... actually the only ones standing by her are white women, black women, and latino women and some white men ... black men and latino men, not to mention a lot of independents men and women... so far 71% of the dems/liberals, and independents are on her side ...when she is elected president I will be ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! at you

 

[Care4all]

I guess that intelligence community really isn't that intelligent. Either they did contain classified information, top secret or otherwise, or they didn't. Them changing their mind sounds like, "Mrs. Clinton is just too big."

Actually, they should NOT have opened their BIG MOUTHS in the FIRST place until everything they were doing was confirmed and Congress critters should NOT have leaked this to the press, UNTIL the investigation was over....

Using it as a political football before any investigation was completed or confirmed was a disservice to JUSTICE.

 

[billyerock1991]

Well, just keep on regurgitating the talking points, we'll see what the FBI has to say. In the mean time you might want to read the link.

Unless the FBI has an e-mail with a thread titled 'Our top secret stuff" addressed to [email protected], no reasonable person is going to really think Hillary did anything wrong.

Hey, here's a crazy idea. How about you guys nominate a candidate who doesn't think crazy shit like Mexicans are all rapists or the Pyramids were grain silos and then we can have a sensible discussion about whether or not that person might be a better president than Mrs. Clinton.

That's not how folks get in trouble for compromising security of classified documents. You are guilty if you even mishandle it or remove it from the security protections that the rules require..

Doesn't have to be an intentional leak..

according to the rule of law at that time having a private server isn't mishandle it or a unsecure private email site ... According to the company she was using, it was a sever that is secure ... did she let just anyone see her emails ??? hell no !!! and she didn't remove any classified documents for people to see either ... just you righties wishing she did

 

[bedowin62]

FROM YOUR OWN ARTICLE:


Now, that disagreement has been resolved in State’s favor, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/hillary-clinton-email-no-highly-classified-215599#ixzz3r0BNHYHH

what a GULLLIBLE IDIOT

 

[bedowin62]

WHY would somebody saying something DIDNT happen be afraid to use their name?

libs are gullilble morons

 

[Care4all]

Just so that A. Perez doesn't think FlaCalTenn is bullshitting him -- I'll let a senator tell you that ALL "top secret" clearances are not alike. And that's it's insufficient to say that the lawyer had "one"...

Sen. Grassley Grills Hillary Clinton's Lawyer About Security Clearance - Breitbart



Senator Grassley notes these developments in his letter to Kendall, then sets about challenging the glib assurances from Clintonworld that Kendall was fully cleared and properly trained to handle the data placed in his custody:

In light of that particular classification, which generally requires advanced protocols such as a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) and other similar arrangements to possess and view, it appears the FBI has determined that your clearance is not sufficient to allow you to maintain custody of the emails. Consistent with that determination, the FBI is now in custody of not only the thumb drives previously in your possession that allegedly contain all of Secretary Clinton’s emails, but also Secretary Clinton’s personal server that was used to maintain the top secret emails outside of a government facility.

Further reporting indicates that Secretary Clinton may have provided you copies of her emails in December 2014 and that government officials realized that the emails contained classified information in May 2015 yet the Department of State did not deliver a safe to store the thumb drives until July 2015. Thus, since at least May 2015 and possibly December 2014, it appears that in addition to not having an adequate security clearance, you did not have the appropriate tools in place to secure the thumb drives. Even with the safe, there are questions as to whether it was an adequate mechanism to secure TS/SCI material. Given the importance of securing and protecting classified information, especially TS/SCI material, it is imperative to confirm when, how, and why you, and any of your associates, received a security clearance in connection with your representation of Ms. Clinton and whether it was active while you had custody of Secretary Clinton’s emails.

Appears that even her "top secret" lawyer had no genuine appreciation of the proper procedures or handling and is likely WHY all that was whisked out of his hands by the FBI....

old propaganda, already debunked.

there was no top secret emails on her server thus far, so grassly was wrong about the lawyer not having clearance....

 

[Care4all]

1) Retroactively?
2) Who deemed them classified?

Are you saying she NEVER sent or received an email to/from ANY foreign official?

now this is a stupid question ...what we are saying she never sent a classified email to her private server... if the email became classified after the fact, not her problem

That's not way classified material is handled, treated or secured. Hillary was responsible for KNOWING the classification of material in ANY message that crossed her eyes. REGARDLESS of whether it bears a proper label or not. Every individual protecting a certain security class KNOWS classified info when they read it.

And as Secretary of State -- she was the one to be enforcing the proper discipline for classified material in that organization. NOT --- being an ABUSER of that system..

p.s.
we aren't talking about how classified material is handle ... the allegation is that hillary had classified material on her sever ... to date not one has turned up to be classified on her server... and you of all people can't say there is

OMG.. Can you be that simple?? In terms of Federal Security law violations -- there is no difference between "handling" and allowing that content to escape from totally secured environments.. Like routing them over ANY public network or allowing them to slip in and out of a private computer account.

Hey asswipe -- here are the same numbers I posted from another source in a Oct 30 Politico story..
Let's see if you can comprehend the facts from your lefttard source.

Obama drawn into Clinton email controversy


Friday's document release is the sixth of its kind and with it, more than half of the messages Clinton turned over to the agency from her private email account and server have now been made public. In the new batch, State deemed 268 emails classified at the lowest classification tier, according to spokesman John Kirby, who said that none of these emails "were marked classified at the time they were sent or received." There are now between 600 and 700 emails newly marked as classified since the releases began in May.

Read more: Obama drawn into Clinton email controversy

FYI-
Freedom of Information Act, FOIA, allows them to release all emails and documents that are classified material up to the point of 'classified secret' which is about midway of the 'classified scale'.

 

[billyerock1991]

Classified at birth, and Hillary had classification authority for material that came in (but NOT declassifition authority, which is reserved for the ORIGINATOR of the material)...

Now, state your service and clearance, DUMBASS...

Duh
Since the information in the emails Came From the PUBLIC, IT WAS PUBLIC INFORMATION, not classified at its origin.

you need to do some research on her private server ... before you continually keep making a fool of yourself ... go look up Plate river network ... you will find that her server was in New jersey not in her home like some say ... you will find that it wasn't in a bathroom closet as theses right wing nut job claim here ...what you will find that the server is in a secured building ... the problem here is people form the right will say just about anything they hear about hillary as long as it will bring her down in the polls ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Just so that A. Perez doesn't think FlaCalTenn is bullshitting him -- I'll let a senator tell you that ALL "top secret" clearances are not alike. And that's it's insufficient to say that the lawyer had "one"...

Sen. Grassley Grills Hillary Clinton's Lawyer About Security Clearance - Breitbart



Senator Grassley notes these developments in his letter to Kendall, then sets about challenging the glib assurances from Clintonworld that Kendall was fully cleared and properly trained to handle the data placed in his custody:

In light of that particular classification, which generally requires advanced protocols such as a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) and other similar arrangements to possess and view, it appears the FBI has determined that your clearance is not sufficient to allow you to maintain custody of the emails. Consistent with that determination, the FBI is now in custody of not only the thumb drives previously in your possession that allegedly contain all of Secretary Clinton’s emails, but also Secretary Clinton’s personal server that was used to maintain the top secret emails outside of a government facility.

Further reporting indicates that Secretary Clinton may have provided you copies of her emails in December 2014 and that government officials realized that the emails contained classified information in May 2015 yet the Department of State did not deliver a safe to store the thumb drives until July 2015. Thus, since at least May 2015 and possibly December 2014, it appears that in addition to not having an adequate security clearance, you did not have the appropriate tools in place to secure the thumb drives. Even with the safe, there are questions as to whether it was an adequate mechanism to secure TS/SCI material. Given the importance of securing and protecting classified information, especially TS/SCI material, it is imperative to confirm when, how, and why you, and any of your associates, received a security clearance in connection with your representation of Ms. Clinton and whether it was active while you had custody of Secretary Clinton’s emails.

Appears that even her "top secret" lawyer had no genuine appreciation of the proper procedures or handling and is likely WHY all that was whisked out of his hands by the FBI....

old propaganda, already debunked.

there was no top secret emails on her server thus far, so grassly was wrong about the lawyer not having clearance....

really folks do you really think that hillary would use a Lawyer that didn't have a clearance

 

[Care4all]

Just so that A. Perez doesn't think FlaCalTenn is bullshitting him -- I'll let a senator tell you that ALL "top secret" clearances are not alike. And that's it's insufficient to say that the lawyer had "one"...

Sen. Grassley Grills Hillary Clinton's Lawyer About Security Clearance - Breitbart



Senator Grassley notes these developments in his letter to Kendall, then sets about challenging the glib assurances from Clintonworld that Kendall was fully cleared and properly trained to handle the data placed in his custody:

In light of that particular classification, which generally requires advanced protocols such as a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) and other similar arrangements to possess and view, it appears the FBI has determined that your clearance is not sufficient to allow you to maintain custody of the emails. Consistent with that determination, the FBI is now in custody of not only the thumb drives previously in your possession that allegedly contain all of Secretary Clinton’s emails, but also Secretary Clinton’s personal server that was used to maintain the top secret emails outside of a government facility.

Further reporting indicates that Secretary Clinton may have provided you copies of her emails in December 2014 and that government officials realized that the emails contained classified information in May 2015 yet the Department of State did not deliver a safe to store the thumb drives until July 2015. Thus, since at least May 2015 and possibly December 2014, it appears that in addition to not having an adequate security clearance, you did not have the appropriate tools in place to secure the thumb drives. Even with the safe, there are questions as to whether it was an adequate mechanism to secure TS/SCI material. Given the importance of securing and protecting classified information, especially TS/SCI material, it is imperative to confirm when, how, and why you, and any of your associates, received a security clearance in connection with your representation of Ms. Clinton and whether it was active while you had custody of Secretary Clinton’s emails.

Appears that even her "top secret" lawyer had no genuine appreciation of the proper procedures or handling and is likely WHY all that was whisked out of his hands by the FBI....

old propaganda, already debunked.

there was no top secret emails on her server thus far, so grassly was wrong about the lawyer not having clearance....

really folks do you really think that hillary would use a Lawyer that didn't have a clearance

no, i know she wouldn't use a lawyer without the proper clearance, thus my comment to flacaltenn!

 

[Care4all]

Classified at birth, and Hillary had classification authority for material that came in (but NOT declassifition authority, which is reserved for the ORIGINATOR of the material)...

Now, state your service and clearance, DUMBASS...

Duh
Since the information in the emails Came From the PUBLIC, IT WAS PUBLIC INFORMATION, not classified at its origin.

you need to do some research on her private server ... before you continually keep making a fool of yourself ... go look up Plate river network ... you will find that her server was in New jersey not in her home like some say ... you will find that it wasn't in a bathroom closet as theses right wing nut job claim here ...what you will find that the server is in a secured building ... the problem here is people form the right will say just about anything they hear about hillary as long as it will bring her down in the polls ...

I don't need to look up anything. I was correcting Obiwan's statement about her emails and his 'classified at birth' statement, none were classified at birth material.... and no official has stated that she had classified at birth material on her computer, only rightwing rags have claimed such and passed that around in the internet rumor mill.

 

[mudwhistle]

In a flip flop that is going to make the Hillary-obsessed conservative members of this board, Politico reports that the Clinton e-mails contained no top secrets as the DNI previously said. James Clapper himself is admitting the "oops".

It is likely that conservatives in this board will pretend this is a cover-up as they always do when they are wrong.
Key Clinton emails did not contain highly classified secrets, inquiry finds

Read this story last week.

It's a political decision. It was reported earlier that several emails contained TS/SCI level intelligence. Any time a foreign government is discussed in communications it is always considered TS. Now that Hillary appears to be the clear frontrunner the intelligence director has been ordered to look the other way, sandbagging what they put out earlier.

Needless to say, they're now trying to pull a fast one. Truth is, Hillary lied under oath when she said she turned over all State Department communications and she committed espionage by setting up her own personal server and used it for official business. Here's why.

First; The people who had access to the server needed a TS/SCI clearance. They did not.

Secondly; The server didn’t have the proper safeguards in place to keep hackers from reading TS/SCI communications.

And last but not least; She did not turn over everything when ordered to. Only after hundreds of her emails were discovered on other servers, she then unwillingly turned them over. It doesn't matter if none of them were Top Secret. She lied about not having them, which is perjury. She also tried to destroy them which is obstruction of justice and attempted destruction of official government property, of which all State Department communications are. They don't belong to Hillary. They belong to the US Government.

 

[billyerock1991]

I guess that intelligence community really isn't that intelligent. Either they did contain classified information, top secret or otherwise, or they didn't. Them changing their mind sounds like, "Mrs. Clinton is just too big."

Actually, they should NOT have opened their BIG MOUTHS in the FIRST place until everything they were doing was confirmed and Congress critters should NOT have leaked this to the press, UNTIL the investigation was over....

Using it as a political football before any investigation was completed or confirmed was a disservice to JUSTICE.

haven't you heard ???? they only way these republicans can win a election these days is make shit up and make it harder for voters to vote...

Example" the highest number of dem voters counties in Alabama, who recently passed a law that said you have to have a voters ID to vote ... they closed down all the offices in know democrat population for them to register .... saying it was do to budget problems ... they now have to go hundreds of miles to get their voters ID... when this got into the press instead of them cutting back on some conservative counties days to save money and put them in dem counties for people to get their Voters ID, out of the kindness of the governors heart he said he will open them one day a month ... isn't that nice ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Classified at birth, and Hillary had classification authority for material that came in (but NOT declassifition authority, which is reserved for the ORIGINATOR of the material)...

Now, state your service and clearance, DUMBASS...

Duh
Since the information in the emails Came From the PUBLIC, IT WAS PUBLIC INFORMATION, not classified at its origin.

you need to do some research on her private server ... before you continually keep making a fool of yourself ... go look up Plate river network ... you will find that her server was in New jersey not in her home like some say ... you will find that it wasn't in a bathroom closet as theses right wing nut job claim here ...what you will find that the server is in a secured building ... the problem here is people form the right will say just about anything they hear about hillary as long as it will bring her down in the polls ...

I don't need to look up anything. I was correcting Obiwan's statement about her emails and his 'classified at birth' statement, none were classified at birth material.... and no official has stated that she had classified at birth material on her computer, only rightwing rags have claimed such and passed that around in the internet rumor mill.

I misunderstood your intention, my apologies !!!!

 

[mudwhistle]

I guess that intelligence community really isn't that intelligent. Either they did contain classified information, top secret or otherwise, or they didn't. Them changing their mind sounds like, "Mrs. Clinton is just too big."

Actually, they should NOT have opened their BIG MOUTHS in the FIRST place until everything they were doing was confirmed and Congress critters should NOT have leaked this to the press, UNTIL the investigation was over....

Using it as a political football before any investigation was completed or confirmed was a disservice to JUSTICE.

haven't you heard ???? they only way these republicans can win a election these days is make shit up and make it harder for voters to vote...

Example" the highest number of dem voters counties in Alabama, who recently passed a law that said you have to have a voters ID to vote ... they closed down all the offices in know democrat population for them to register .... saying it was do to budget problems ... they now have to go hundreds of miles to get their voters ID... when this got into the press instead of them cutting back on some conservative counties days to save money and put them in dem counties for people to get their Voters ID, out of the kindness of the governors heart he said he will open them one day a month ... isn't that nice ...

What is a voter ID?

I know of no special identity card specifically used for voting...other than a registration card....and a driver's license. You can go to any DMV and get both. In some states you can register online.