Iphone manufacturer foxconn plans to replace almost every human worker with robots

[Fenton Lum]

The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.

You have failed to address that.

You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.

This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.


Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.

all you have is, "proof by association".

The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.

You have failed to address that.

You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.

This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.


Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.

Establishing federal id metrics helps law enforcement.

... and the privatized prison convict leasing system.

I don't believe in for-profit forms of social justice. It should be, "not for profit".

Seems to much like punishing ourselves with lucre, for enabling a profit motive for capitalists to engender the "hellish conditions of warfare on Earth" instead of a more market friendly, Commune of Heaven on Earth.

Ain't no money in harmony.

 

[danielpalos]

all you have is, "proof by association".

The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.

You have failed to address that.

You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.

This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.


Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.

Establishing federal id metrics helps law enforcement.

... and the privatized prison convict leasing system.

I don't believe in for-profit forms of social justice. It should be, "not for profit".

Seems to much like punishing ourselves with lucre, for enabling a profit motive for capitalists to engender the "hellish conditions of warfare on Earth" instead of a more market friendly, Commune of Heaven on Earth.

Ain't no money in harmony.

The Only problem with socialism, is that it requires social morals for free.

 

[Indeependent]

When Trump entered the race he said he was going to fine certain mega corporations in order to pay for removing trespassers.

is there plenty litigation in your crystal ball?

In the last year I haven't heard ONE Progressive attorney say Trump couldn't do what he says he wants to do.
Your turn...

 

[danielpalos]

When Trump entered the race he said he was going to fine certain mega corporations in order to pay for removing trespassers.

is there plenty litigation in your crystal ball?

In the last year I haven't heard ONE Progressive attorney say Trump couldn't do what he says he wants to do.
Your turn...

It is about natural rights.

Employment at will and freedom of association are natural rights. States have no power over immigration into the Union since 1808. Immigration has never been a private concern.

Our illegal problem should be solved at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution.

A market friendly work visa with federal ID; helps those participants participate more effectively in State markets.

 

[Indeependent]

When Trump entered the race he said he was going to fine certain mega corporations in order to pay for removing trespassers.

is there plenty litigation in your crystal ball?

In the last year I haven't heard ONE Progressive attorney say Trump couldn't do what he says he wants to do.
Your turn...

It is about natural rights.

Employment at will and freedom of association are natural rights. States have no power over immigration into the Union since 1808. Immigration has never been a private concern.

Our illegal problem should be solved at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution.

A market friendly work visa with federal ID; helps those participants participate more effectively in State markets.

Are you naturally naive or do you work on it?
Businesses are in business to make money.
Government's job is to provide for the General Welfare of the US, not corporate America or the world.

 

[danielpalos]

When Trump entered the race he said he was going to fine certain mega corporations in order to pay for removing trespassers.

is there plenty litigation in your crystal ball?

In the last year I haven't heard ONE Progressive attorney say Trump couldn't do what he says he wants to do.
Your turn...

It is about natural rights.

Employment at will and freedom of association are natural rights. States have no power over immigration into the Union since 1808. Immigration has never been a private concern.

Our illegal problem should be solved at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution.

A market friendly work visa with federal ID; helps those participants participate more effectively in State markets.

Are you naturally naive or do you work on it?
Businesses are in business to make money.
Government's job is to provide for the General Welfare of the US, not corporate America or the world.

You haven't talked to many attorneys, have you. Litigation is a major employment expense. It could be eliminated on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Technology and productivity are going to put, and keep, huge numbers of Americans out of work.

The curve is only going to get steeper.

We have to start looking at a universal basic salary. The problem is that, so far, our "leaders" don't have the balls to point out the obvious.
.

there are plenty of things people can do that robots can't

 

[Indeependent]

When Trump entered the race he said he was going to fine certain mega corporations in order to pay for removing trespassers.

is there plenty litigation in your crystal ball?

In the last year I haven't heard ONE Progressive attorney say Trump couldn't do what he says he wants to do.
Your turn...

It is about natural rights.

Employment at will and freedom of association are natural rights. States have no power over immigration into the Union since 1808. Immigration has never been a private concern.

Our illegal problem should be solved at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution.

A market friendly work visa with federal ID; helps those participants participate more effectively in State markets.

Are you naturally naive or do you work on it?
Businesses are in business to make money.
Government's job is to provide for the General Welfare of the US, not corporate America or the world.

You haven't talked to many attorneys, have you. Litigation is a major employment expense. It could be eliminated on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

At Will is NOT a problem.
Having a Global Employment Pool IS a problem.
And that's exactly why I voted for Trump.

 

[peabody]

Should we make long-term investments in robotics companies like Fanuc, Cognex, and Rockwell Automation?

 

[HenryBHough]

Suddenly Reverend Ludd's religion is new again.

 

[danielpalos]

is there plenty litigation in your crystal ball?

In the last year I haven't heard ONE Progressive attorney say Trump couldn't do what he says he wants to do.
Your turn...

It is about natural rights.

Employment at will and freedom of association are natural rights. States have no power over immigration into the Union since 1808. Immigration has never been a private concern.

Our illegal problem should be solved at the federal borders with the federal powers already delegated in our federal Constitution.

A market friendly work visa with federal ID; helps those participants participate more effectively in State markets.

Are you naturally naive or do you work on it?
Businesses are in business to make money.
Government's job is to provide for the General Welfare of the US, not corporate America or the world.

You haven't talked to many attorneys, have you. Litigation is a major employment expense. It could be eliminated on an at-will basis in our at-will employment States.

At Will is NOT a problem.
Having a Global Employment Pool IS a problem.
And that's exactly why I voted for Trump.

so he can flip-flop?

equal protection of the law means US labor should be able to quit and collect unemployment benefits, even if they don't want to work any local employers on an at-will basis, in any right to employ State.

 

[danielpalos]

Should we make long-term investments in robotics companies like Fanuc, Cognex, and Rockwell Automation?

sure; robots don't complain about taxes for social services for the poor.

 

[GHook93]

I don't see how anyone can buy into your partisanshit, but lord knows they do.

Pot calling the kettle black. You are the most partisan twat on the board!


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[rdean]

That's why that form of manufacturing is coming back here.
In China, they have rolling blackouts.

China meets energy goals with blackouts

Not good for companies that want to automate.

But don't worry, Republicans will make sure that happens here.

 

[hadit]

Technology and productivity are going to put, and keep, huge numbers of Americans out of work.

The curve is only going to get steeper.

We have to start looking at a universal basic salary. The problem is that, so far, our "leaders" don't have the balls to point out the obvious.
.

Not necessarily. The kind of work automation will replace is repetitive and relatively low skilled, especially that is done in one location. Robots excel at that. I think it is more likely that, much like when tractors replaced mules in front of plows, other types of work will spring up. Gone, however, will be ever more low skilled, repetitive manual labor.

 

[Mac1958]

Technology and productivity are going to put, and keep, huge numbers of Americans out of work.

The curve is only going to get steeper.

We have to start looking at a universal basic salary. The problem is that, so far, our "leaders" don't have the balls to point out the obvious.
.

Not necessarily. The kind of work automation will replace is repetitive and relatively low skilled, especially that is done in one location. Robots excel at that. I think it is more likely that, much like when tractors replaced mules in front of plows, other types of work will spring up. Gone, however, will be ever more low skilled, repetitive manual labor.

I can see that, but there is a large population who would have to be re-trained, damn near immediately. That's a costly process and won't take for everyone.

Either way, I hope you're right.
.

 

[hadit]

Technology and productivity are going to put, and keep, huge numbers of Americans out of work.

The curve is only going to get steeper.

We have to start looking at a universal basic salary. The problem is that, so far, our "leaders" don't have the balls to point out the obvious.
.

Not necessarily. The kind of work automation will replace is repetitive and relatively low skilled, especially that is done in one location. Robots excel at that. I think it is more likely that, much like when tractors replaced mules in front of plows, other types of work will spring up. Gone, however, will be ever more low skilled, repetitive manual labor.

I can see that, but there is a large population who would have to be re-trained, damn near immediately. That's a costly process and won't take for everyone.

Either way, I hope you're right.
.

Oh, there would be turmoil for a while, no doubt. The same thing happened during the Industrial Revolution, when farming jobs started drying up and factory jobs began.

Heck, it's happening now in IT. When I started, you could get a decent job if you could get a COBOL program to compile. Now a programmer can pick and paste pre-made code modules and create a state of the art application. You have to have a much wider field of knowledge to succeed in IT today because of automation, even though it's not due to robots. I have to continually update my skills to stay current.

 

[Mac1958]

Technology and productivity are going to put, and keep, huge numbers of Americans out of work.

The curve is only going to get steeper.

We have to start looking at a universal basic salary. The problem is that, so far, our "leaders" don't have the balls to point out the obvious.
.

Not necessarily. The kind of work automation will replace is repetitive and relatively low skilled, especially that is done in one location. Robots excel at that. I think it is more likely that, much like when tractors replaced mules in front of plows, other types of work will spring up. Gone, however, will be ever more low skilled, repetitive manual labor.

I can see that, but there is a large population who would have to be re-trained, damn near immediately. That's a costly process and won't take for everyone.

Either way, I hope you're right.
.

Oh, there would be turmoil for a while, no doubt. The same thing happened during the Industrial Revolution, when farming jobs started drying up and factory jobs began.

Heck, it's happening now in IT. When I started, you could get a decent job if you could get a COBOL program to compile. Now a programmer can pick and paste pre-made code modules and create a state of the art application. You have to have a much wider field of knowledge to succeed in IT today because of automation, even though it's not due to robots. I have to continually update my skills to stay current.

Yep, and it's the turmoil that concerns me, getting from here to there.

I'd think this would be a good topic for a national conversation, as we talk about improving conditions for the workforce.
.

 

[danielpalos]

That's why that form of manufacturing is coming back here.
In China, they have rolling blackouts.

China meets energy goals with blackouts

Not good for companies that want to automate.

But don't worry, Republicans will make sure that happens here.

we need to upgrade our infrastructure anyway.

conduits to markets; should be intelligently designed, from the ground up.

we have computer technology now.

 

[danielpalos]

Technology and productivity are going to put, and keep, huge numbers of Americans out of work.

The curve is only going to get steeper.

We have to start looking at a universal basic salary. The problem is that, so far, our "leaders" don't have the balls to point out the obvious.
.

Not necessarily. The kind of work automation will replace is repetitive and relatively low skilled, especially that is done in one location. Robots excel at that. I think it is more likely that, much like when tractors replaced mules in front of plows, other types of work will spring up. Gone, however, will be ever more low skilled, repetitive manual labor.

automation should lower infrastructure costs; making underground maglev capable high speed "rail" roads, practicable.