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ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.All that costs money; where is going to come from? There is no positive multiplier effect from that public policy. And, you cannot eliminate crime with incorrigible, original sinners, or we would Only need, Ten religious Commandments.Walls, fences and armed guards, it's not rocket science.
Taxes? Do you realize that you have not addressed the harm to the rape victim(s)? I've responded to multiple points you have brought up, but you have never answered me as to your empathy for the victim, nor what you would do for her, and those she represents, nor even why you are so dismissive of her and her suffering?
A market friendly work visa generates revenue and id metrics. A wall is just a waste of money and we don't have the term, to provide for the general warfare, but the general welfare.
1. Your concern about cost is not credible in the context of a 4 trillion dollar federal budget.
2. An inability to completely eliminate crime does not distract from the benefits of NOT actively increasing violent crime and the suffering of it's victims.
3. Your point about "revenue" is moot as you refuse to compare it to the cost of your policy.
4. AND ONCE AGAIN, you refuse to answer my question(s) about your empathy for or what steps you would take OR even why you dismiss the harm suffered by the rapists victim and those many others your policy would impact negatively.
YOu are no longer engaged in debate. All your points have been addressed and you refuse to move the discussion forward by responding further.
You are merely engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
How much is a War on Illegals going to cost?
Look, this has nothing to do with being rational and coherent. This is about providing and reinforcing scapegoat groups as a target for public frustrations. The power structure needs to keep the masses pointed at each other.
I was born in 1943, during a time of results of radical change. Change that cost over 50 million people their lives. And scarred the lives of billions more. Leaders were installed that saw the world in terms of sick ideologies. And people blindly followed them. These same people committed horrors that a decade earlier they would have hung people for. The orange clown and his followers very much remind me of the people of that period.Absolutely!!! That will never happen using the systems rules, such as the vote.
The leaders were completely united behind Hillary, from the Bushes to the Kennedys to the international Left.
And they got their asses handed to them.
Briexit is also shaking them.
Change is in the air.
Why are you so afraid of change?
Nonsense.
The Godwin panic mongering of the Left was simply an amplification of their normal propaganda technique of smearing their enemies.
That you choose to be a willing dupe of that, is all on you.
But you can't expect anyone not a fellow far lefty to pretend to take you seriously.
The policies issues are about deporting surplus labor to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to bring back jobs, to improve jobs and wages for Americans, and to NOT fuck with Russia, making Americans safer.
That is what Trump's presidency will be about. The question is can the Establishment stop him, or will the people win and get what they want.
Goldman Sachs and Wall Street will prevail like they always do under our ruse of representative democracy, the people are always satisfied with distractions and screaming at each other. And I would look for an expansion of military conflict on the planet, the world's bankers always do well with that when all else fails.
And if it does NOT happen, that demonstrates that the People are in charge and the Trump is the agent of Change.
ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.All that costs money; where is going to come from? There is no positive multiplier effect from that public policy. And, you cannot eliminate crime with incorrigible, original sinners, or we would Only need, Ten religious Commandments.
A market friendly work visa generates revenue and id metrics. A wall is just a waste of money and we don't have the term, to provide for the general warfare, but the general welfare.
1. Your concern about cost is not credible in the context of a 4 trillion dollar federal budget.
2. An inability to completely eliminate crime does not distract from the benefits of NOT actively increasing violent crime and the suffering of it's victims.
3. Your point about "revenue" is moot as you refuse to compare it to the cost of your policy.
4. AND ONCE AGAIN, you refuse to answer my question(s) about your empathy for or what steps you would take OR even why you dismiss the harm suffered by the rapists victim and those many others your policy would impact negatively.
YOu are no longer engaged in debate. All your points have been addressed and you refuse to move the discussion forward by responding further.
You are merely engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.All that costs money; where is going to come from? There is no positive multiplier effect from that public policy. And, you cannot eliminate crime with incorrigible, original sinners, or we would Only need, Ten religious Commandments.
A market friendly work visa generates revenue and id metrics. A wall is just a waste of money and we don't have the term, to provide for the general warfare, but the general welfare.
1. Your concern about cost is not credible in the context of a 4 trillion dollar federal budget.
2. An inability to completely eliminate crime does not distract from the benefits of NOT actively increasing violent crime and the suffering of it's victims.
3. Your point about "revenue" is moot as you refuse to compare it to the cost of your policy.
4. AND ONCE AGAIN, you refuse to answer my question(s) about your empathy for or what steps you would take OR even why you dismiss the harm suffered by the rapists victim and those many others your policy would impact negatively.
YOu are no longer engaged in debate. All your points have been addressed and you refuse to move the discussion forward by responding further.
You are merely engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
I was born in 1943, during a time of results of radical change. Change that cost over 50 million people their lives. And scarred the lives of billions more. Leaders were installed that saw the world in terms of sick ideologies. And people blindly followed them. These same people committed horrors that a decade earlier they would have hung people for. The orange clown and his followers very much remind me of the people of that period.The leaders were completely united behind Hillary, from the Bushes to the Kennedys to the international Left.
And they got their asses handed to them.
Briexit is also shaking them.
Change is in the air.
Why are you so afraid of change?
Nonsense.
The Godwin panic mongering of the Left was simply an amplification of their normal propaganda technique of smearing their enemies.
That you choose to be a willing dupe of that, is all on you.
But you can't expect anyone not a fellow far lefty to pretend to take you seriously.
The policies issues are about deporting surplus labor to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to bring back jobs, to improve jobs and wages for Americans, and to NOT fuck with Russia, making Americans safer.
That is what Trump's presidency will be about. The question is can the Establishment stop him, or will the people win and get what they want.
Goldman Sachs and Wall Street will prevail like they always do under our ruse of representative democracy, the people are always satisfied with distractions and screaming at each other. And I would look for an expansion of military conflict on the planet, the world's bankers always do well with that when all else fails.
And if it does NOT happen, that demonstrates that the People are in charge and the Trump is the agent of Change.
Some of you will claim that regadless of what happens. You need to believe someone is coming to save you so that you do not have to deal with the thought of saving yourself.
How much is a War on Illegals going to cost?
Look, this has nothing to do with being rational and coherent. This is about providing and reinforcing scapegoat groups as a target for public frustrations. The power structure needs to keep the masses pointed at each other.
The issues of illegal immigration are real.
ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.1. Your concern about cost is not credible in the context of a 4 trillion dollar federal budget.
2. An inability to completely eliminate crime does not distract from the benefits of NOT actively increasing violent crime and the suffering of it's victims.
3. Your point about "revenue" is moot as you refuse to compare it to the cost of your policy.
4. AND ONCE AGAIN, you refuse to answer my question(s) about your empathy for or what steps you would take OR even why you dismiss the harm suffered by the rapists victim and those many others your policy would impact negatively.
YOu are no longer engaged in debate. All your points have been addressed and you refuse to move the discussion forward by responding further.
You are merely engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
Heh heh heh, watch believer, watch.
ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.1. Your concern about cost is not credible in the context of a 4 trillion dollar federal budget.
2. An inability to completely eliminate crime does not distract from the benefits of NOT actively increasing violent crime and the suffering of it's victims.
3. Your point about "revenue" is moot as you refuse to compare it to the cost of your policy.
4. AND ONCE AGAIN, you refuse to answer my question(s) about your empathy for or what steps you would take OR even why you dismiss the harm suffered by the rapists victim and those many others your policy would impact negatively.
YOu are no longer engaged in debate. All your points have been addressed and you refuse to move the discussion forward by responding further.
You are merely engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
"And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses...."
These growth industry stocks surged on the news of Trump's victory. Wall Street must see it a tad differently than you do.
I was born in 1943, during a time of results of radical change. Change that cost over 50 million people their lives. And scarred the lives of billions more. Leaders were installed that saw the world in terms of sick ideologies. And people blindly followed them. These same people committed horrors that a decade earlier they would have hung people for. The orange clown and his followers very much remind me of the people of that period.
Nonsense.
The Godwin panic mongering of the Left was simply an amplification of their normal propaganda technique of smearing their enemies.
That you choose to be a willing dupe of that, is all on you.
But you can't expect anyone not a fellow far lefty to pretend to take you seriously.
The policies issues are about deporting surplus labor to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to bring back jobs, to improve jobs and wages for Americans, and to NOT fuck with Russia, making Americans safer.
That is what Trump's presidency will be about. The question is can the Establishment stop him, or will the people win and get what they want.
Goldman Sachs and Wall Street will prevail like they always do under our ruse of representative democracy, the people are always satisfied with distractions and screaming at each other. And I would look for an expansion of military conflict on the planet, the world's bankers always do well with that when all else fails.
And if it does NOT happen, that demonstrates that the People are in charge and the Trump is the agent of Change.
Some of you will claim that regadless of what happens. You need to believe someone is coming to save you so that you do not have to deal with the thought of saving yourself.
You are already rationalizing why you will ignore reports that support Trump and he is not even in office yet.
How much is a War on Illegals going to cost?
Look, this has nothing to do with being rational and coherent. This is about providing and reinforcing scapegoat groups as a target for public frustrations. The power structure needs to keep the masses pointed at each other.
The issues of illegal immigration are real.
And no one's gonna do jack son, your "job creator" class wants them here and lobbies for it.
ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
Heh heh heh, watch believer, watch.
I will be. Will you? Or will you let the media lie to you?
How much is a War on Illegals going to cost?
Look, this has nothing to do with being rational and coherent. This is about providing and reinforcing scapegoat groups as a target for public frustrations. The power structure needs to keep the masses pointed at each other.
The issues of illegal immigration are real.
And no one's gonna do jack son, your "job creator" class wants them here and lobbies for it.
That class was solidly behind Hillary. They LOST.
What does that say about their power?
Nonsense.
The Godwin panic mongering of the Left was simply an amplification of their normal propaganda technique of smearing their enemies.
That you choose to be a willing dupe of that, is all on you.
But you can't expect anyone not a fellow far lefty to pretend to take you seriously.
The policies issues are about deporting surplus labor to improve jobs and wages for Americans, to bring back jobs, to improve jobs and wages for Americans, and to NOT fuck with Russia, making Americans safer.
That is what Trump's presidency will be about. The question is can the Establishment stop him, or will the people win and get what they want.
Goldman Sachs and Wall Street will prevail like they always do under our ruse of representative democracy, the people are always satisfied with distractions and screaming at each other. And I would look for an expansion of military conflict on the planet, the world's bankers always do well with that when all else fails.
And if it does NOT happen, that demonstrates that the People are in charge and the Trump is the agent of Change.
Some of you will claim that regadless of what happens. You need to believe someone is coming to save you so that you do not have to deal with the thought of saving yourself.
You are already rationalizing why you will ignore reports that support Trump and he is not even in office yet.
No, that's your partisanshit in the way again, you want to focus on personalities so you don't have to deal with the entire system. The election altered nothing. You're after braggin' rights, go watch a footbal game.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
Heh heh heh, watch believer, watch.
I will be. Will you? Or will you let the media lie to you?
Stay inside your own head pard, its your safe space. Ideas are scary.
A privatized prison system with stock traded on Wall Street and corporate lobbying has a vested interest in higher rates of crime, in criminalizing more and more behavior, and in high recidivism rates. Just good for business. And in a post industrial society with diminishing living wage jobs, the system can turn $40-50K/year/head, and convict lease out labor to corporate power.
My how far we've come, and then gone back.
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
Heh heh heh, watch believer, watch.
I will be. Will you? Or will you let the media lie to you?
Stay inside your own head pard, its your safe space. Ideas are scary.
Don't kid yourself. There are plenty of ideas over here.
How much is a War on Illegals going to cost?
Look, this has nothing to do with being rational and coherent. This is about providing and reinforcing scapegoat groups as a target for public frustrations. The power structure needs to keep the masses pointed at each other.
The issues of illegal immigration are real.
And no one's gonna do jack son, your "job creator" class wants them here and lobbies for it.
That class was solidly behind Hillary. They LOST.
What does that say about their power?
Why are you so angry if everything's alright?
And private prisons with traded stocks are such power houses....
Trump will not be crafting policy for them. If he is smart, and he is, he will be crafting policy to reward his supporters, with an eye to the midterms and re-election.
Those policies will be the exact opposite of what would benefit a private prison.
Heh heh heh, watch believer, watch.
I will be. Will you? Or will you let the media lie to you?
Stay inside your own head pard, its your safe space. Ideas are scary.
Don't kid yourself. There are plenty of ideas over here.
Yeah, ya got one? Good, get to it then.
Heh heh heh, watch believer, watch.
I will be. Will you? Or will you let the media lie to you?
Stay inside your own head pard, its your safe space. Ideas are scary.
Don't kid yourself. There are plenty of ideas over here.
Yeah, ya got one? Good, get to it then.
18 more days.
all you have is, "proof by association".ID helps prevent crime. A federal ID helps States with their jurisdictional issues.All that costs money; where is going to come from? There is no positive multiplier effect from that public policy. And, you cannot eliminate crime with incorrigible, original sinners, or we would Only need, Ten religious Commandments.How are you going to secure our border?
You claim that the cost will be worth it; but, the right always denies and disparages that sentiment, by asking for lower taxes.
Walls, fences and armed guards, it's not rocket science.
Taxes? Do you realize that you have not addressed the harm to the rape victim(s)? I've responded to multiple points you have brought up, but you have never answered me as to your empathy for the victim, nor what you would do for her, and those she represents, nor even why you are so dismissive of her and her suffering?
A market friendly work visa generates revenue and id metrics. A wall is just a waste of money and we don't have the term, to provide for the general warfare, but the general welfare.
1. Your concern about cost is not credible in the context of a 4 trillion dollar federal budget.
2. An inability to completely eliminate crime does not distract from the benefits of NOT actively increasing violent crime and the suffering of it's victims.
3. Your point about "revenue" is moot as you refuse to compare it to the cost of your policy.
4. AND ONCE AGAIN, you refuse to answer my question(s) about your empathy for or what steps you would take OR even why you dismiss the harm suffered by the rapists victim and those many others your policy would impact negatively.
YOu are no longer engaged in debate. All your points have been addressed and you refuse to move the discussion forward by responding further.
You are merely engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
You don't have a point; you are Only begging the question and resorting to diversion.
The Logic of NOT actively increasing crime vs preventing crime after increasing it, has been presented to you.
You have failed to address that.
You are now engaged in the Logical Fallacy of Proof by Assertion.
This is why lefties generally do not engage in serious debate. Because their arguments do not stand up to scrutiny.
Your choice here is to change your position or to become increasingly dishonest.
