Is Ariel Castro a Murderer?

Constitution has nothing to do with it.

Abortion IS a murder.

or you consider murdering 6 million Jews by Nazis also not a murder?

It was legal by their standards.

There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.

and there were also times when killing 6 million Jews was legal.

still was is and will be a murder.

As is murdering an unborn baby by abortion.
Ummm, I don't think there was ever a time when killing 6 million Jews was legal...
 
But the Constitution and its case law do.

And the law clearly states that abortion is not ‘murder.’

Indeed, the Constitution exists to protect citizens from the arrogance and ignorance you exhibit, where your attempt to codify subjective moral doctrine and religious dogma into secular law is offensive to the Founding Document, and thankfully prohibited.

Constitution has nothing to do with it.

Abortion IS a murder.

or you consider murdering 6 million Jews by Nazis also not a murder?

It was legal by their standards.

There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.
And this has to do with MURDER, HOW?

'Splain yerself, DOLT. (And don't hit me with living/breathing Constitution shit, because that doesn't EXIST).
 
Constitution has nothing to do with it.

Abortion IS a murder.

or you consider murdering 6 million Jews by Nazis also not a murder?

It was legal by their standards.

There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.

and there were also times when killing 6 million Jews was legal.

still was is and will be a murder.

As is murdering an unborn baby by abortion.
What do the Nazis have to do us. Here. Now. ???
 
The memo reads that if the fetus is wanted, it is a person; if the fetus is unwanted it is a blob of cells that can be disposed of, with an okay from the law, into the nearest trash can.

which is also a confirmation of the left-wing hypocrisy.

The hypocrisy belongs solely to the right.

Conservative dogma dictates ‘less government’ and ‘individual liberty,’ where conservative opposition to privacy rights seeks more government at the expense of individual liberty.

How's the unborns individual liberty doing when they're aborted?
 
If a woman decides to kill her unborn fetus it is ok because the law says so.

If a stranger decides to kill an unborn fetus it is not ok because the woman did not consent.

Either way, the fetus still ends up intentionally dead.

The pro-choice pov is that they want to be able to choose to kill an unborn fetus.

Incorrect.

Advocates of privacy rights understand that the Constitution forbids the state from interfering in matters both personal and private.

One is at liberty to believe abortion is ‘wrong’ or ‘murder’ in the context of his own right to privacy, and act accordingly in his own good conscience with regard to how he conducts his life – but he may not use the power and authority of the state to compel others to abide by that subjective belief.

The pro-choice pov wants to be able to have the choice to legally terminate the life of the unborn via abortion. There is nothing incorrect about that statement.

Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.
 
The memo reads that if the fetus is wanted, it is a person; if the fetus is unwanted it is a blob of cells that can be disposed of, with an okay from the law, into the nearest trash can.

which is also a confirmation of the left-wing hypocrisy.

The hypocrisy belongs solely to the right.

Conservative dogma dictates ‘less government’ and ‘individual liberty,’ where conservative opposition to privacy rights seeks more government at the expense of individual liberty.

Nope.A murder has absolutely nothing to do with privacy. If we confirm the government has the right to intrude and punish the murder of the baby in one instance, it should be able to do so in the other as well - or at least forbid the murder.

it's the left who will turn heaven and earth upside down in order to MURDER the unborn baby even the day before delivery and will punish the murderer for the SAME MURDER of unborn baby under some different circumstances.



It's pure hypocrisy at it's best.
 
Incorrect.

Advocates of privacy rights understand that the Constitution forbids the state from interfering in matters both personal and private.

One is at liberty to believe abortion is ‘wrong’ or ‘murder’ in the context of his own right to privacy, and act accordingly in his own good conscience with regard to how he conducts his life – but he may not use the power and authority of the state to compel others to abide by that subjective belief.

The pro-choice pov wants to be able to have the choice to legally terminate the life of the unborn via abortion. There is nothing incorrect about that statement.

Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

no, she does not. She is a murderer.
 
Incorrect.

Advocates of privacy rights understand that the Constitution forbids the state from interfering in matters both personal and private.

One is at liberty to believe abortion is ‘wrong’ or ‘murder’ in the context of his own right to privacy, and act accordingly in his own good conscience with regard to how he conducts his life – but he may not use the power and authority of the state to compel others to abide by that subjective belief.

The pro-choice pov wants to be able to have the choice to legally terminate the life of the unborn via abortion. There is nothing incorrect about that statement.

Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

So then it is self defense? I see
 
There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.

and there were also times when killing 6 million Jews was legal.

still was is and will be a murder.

As is murdering an unborn baby by abortion.
What do the Nazis have to do us. Here. Now. ???

Oh, so you agree with the Nazis and their legal right to murder?
 
Incorrect.

Advocates of privacy rights understand that the Constitution forbids the state from interfering in matters both personal and private.

One is at liberty to believe abortion is ‘wrong’ or ‘murder’ in the context of his own right to privacy, and act accordingly in his own good conscience with regard to how he conducts his life – but he may not use the power and authority of the state to compel others to abide by that subjective belief.

The pro-choice pov wants to be able to have the choice to legally terminate the life of the unborn via abortion. There is nothing incorrect about that statement.

Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

That's what I said ... pro-choice wants to be able to have the choice to kill the unborn human within her womb.
 
Constitution has nothing to do with it.

Abortion IS a murder.

or you consider murdering 6 million Jews by Nazis also not a murder?

It was legal by their standards.

There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.
And this has to do with MURDER, HOW?

'Splain yerself, DOLT. (And don't hit me with living/breathing Constitution shit, because that doesn't EXIST).
As soon a you show me how its murder dolt....I will Splain. Does it say its murder in a court of law or a court in your living room. Dolt. Are you a law abiding citizen or a savage dolt. You know what. Pedophiles say the law against whey like is wrong as well. They say that law is wrong. They sound like you really.
 
There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.

and there were also times when killing 6 million Jews was legal.

still was is and will be a murder.

As is murdering an unborn baby by abortion.
Ummm, I don't think there was ever a time when killing 6 million Jews was legal...

it was legal by Nazi's laws :rolleyes:

as is murdering an unborn baby legal now by American laws.
 
which is also a confirmation of the left-wing hypocrisy.

The hypocrisy belongs solely to the right.

Conservative dogma dictates ‘less government’ and ‘individual liberty,’ where conservative opposition to privacy rights seeks more government at the expense of individual liberty.

Nope.A murder has absolutely nothing to do with privacy. If we confirm the government has the right to intrude and punish the murder of the baby in one instance, it should be able to do so in the other as well - or at least forbid the murder.

it's the left who will turn heaven and earth upside down in order to MURDER the unborn baby even the day before delivery and will punish the murderer for the SAME MURDER of unborn baby under some different circumstances.



It's pure hypocrisy at it's best.


Whats actually hypocritical is assuming you can force someone else to let you have sway over their body while at the same time promoting individual liberty.
 
The pro-choice pov wants to be able to have the choice to legally terminate the life of the unborn via abortion. There is nothing incorrect about that statement.

Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

That's what I said ... pro-choice wants to be able to have the choice to kill the unborn human within her womb.

and name a murder to be a choice.

proaborts are such hypocrites
 
and there were also times when killing 6 million Jews was legal.

still was is and will be a murder.

As is murdering an unborn baby by abortion.
Ummm, I don't think there was ever a time when killing 6 million Jews was legal...

it was legal by Nazi's laws :rolleyes:

as is murdering an unborn baby legal now by American laws.

I guess thats why they were called war crimes and tried and convicted?
 
There was a time when inter racial marriages were illegal here. There was a time here when abortions were illegal here. There was a time when when couldn't vote here. Laws evolve.
And this has to do with MURDER, HOW?

'Splain yerself, DOLT. (And don't hit me with living/breathing Constitution shit, because that doesn't EXIST).
As soon a you show me how its murder dolt....I will Splain. Does it say its murder in a court of law or a court in your living room. Dolt. Are you a law abiding citizen or a savage dolt.
Destroying ANY life is MURDER shithead. Your rhetoric shows complete lack of reverence FOR life by your excusing/ parsing the ACT of MURDER.

STEP AWAY boy...Superior forces are at work here, and YOU aren't included.:eusa_hand:
 
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The pro-choice pov wants to be able to have the choice to legally terminate the life of the unborn via abortion. There is nothing incorrect about that statement.

Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

That's what I said ... pro-choice wants to be able to have the choice to kill the unborn human within her womb.

They dont want... they do have that right. Big difference.
 
Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

That's what I said ... pro-choice wants to be able to have the choice to kill the unborn human within her womb.

and name a murder to be a choice.

proaborts are such hypocrites
Let them try that argument in the next murder trial?
 
Correction. The woman has the right to terminate a life that is unwanted in the womans body. Its not up for debate on that. Even though some would like it to be.

That's what I said ... pro-choice wants to be able to have the choice to kill the unborn human within her womb.

They dont want... they do have that right. Big difference.

They currently have that right. Just like the Nazis had the right to kill Jews. It is an irrelevant statement any way.
 
That's what I said ... pro-choice wants to be able to have the choice to kill the unborn human within her womb.

They dont want... they do have that right. Big difference.

They currently have that right. Just like the Nazis had the right to kill Jews. It is an irrelevant statement any way.

You bringing Nazis into the conversation is whats irrelevant. Nazis did not have a right and thats why they were tried for their crimes.
 

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