Is Christianity idolatry?

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It is commonly accepted that Islam is not Avodah Zarah (idolatry) since Islam has a clear monotheistic theology with a belief in Allah that parallels the Jewish view of "kail" or Hashem. It is even permissible for Jews to enter and pray (Jewish prayer) in a mosque. The views of Christianity and their Trinity are more clouded. Entering a Church is a questionable act.
Those who say that Christianity is Avodah Zara are just not being open-minded enough to their explanation of how the Trinity equals monotheism? Are those who say it's not Avodah Zara (idolatry) just looking to appease the Christian majority in the countries where Jews live?

In Jewish law, the idea of the Trinity falls under the catchall term of "shittuf" - worshipping God along with some other being.

Shittuf is prohibited for Jews. This means that a Jew would be prohibited to acknowledge the Christian savior as part of God.

No, because in Genesis your own book says that God said, Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness. Who was God speaking to? The Holy Spirit (His Spirit) and the Word that became flesh in John 1:1 and is identified as the One who created all things - Jesus Christ. That is who God the Father was speaking of. How could God be a Father if He didn't have a Son? How could God be a Spirit if he was not a Spirit - The Spirit of the LORD was with Gideon. The Spirit of the LORD was with Samson. THINK. It is 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 not 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.

While your Rabbi's have explained this away claiming that God was speaking to an angel that makes no sense because we were not created as angels. We were created in the image of God. We are a spirit, we live in a body and we have a soul. We are a trichotomy. Because we are made in the image of God - God the Father, God the Spirit, God the Word (Jesus Christ). Do you walk around calling yourself 3 persons? No. You say I and in that God in the very next verse after Genesis 1:26 does the same. Genesis 1:27 God said, So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him: male and female he created them.

See that?

In verse 26 he says Let US make man in Our image and after OUR likeness and in the very next verse he says I. Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is One. 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. NOT 3. "1".

No, because in Genesis your own book says that God said, Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness. Who was God speaking to?

Jeremiah
You need to study Judaism and read the Tanakh in Hebrew , that is the problem, you people read it in english and have no understanding of meanings.

And that is why you are a christian trying to convert Jews and will fail with Jews who do know.



One of the most popular verses used by missionaries as a proof text in support of the doctrine of the Trinity is Genesis 1:26. This verse appears frequently in missionary literature despite of the fact that this argument has been answered countless times throughout the centuries and numerous Christian scholars have long abandoned it. Let’s examine the creation of man as described in the Torah:

And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and they shall rule over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”

(Genesis 1:26)

With limited knowledge of the Jewish Scriptures, missionaries submit the above verse as evidence that there was a plurality in the godhead that participated in creation of our first parent. What other explanation could adequately account for the Torah’s use of the plural pronouns such as “us” and “our” in this verse?

This argument, however, is deeply flawed, and, accordingly, a great number of Trinitarian theologians have long rejected the notion that Genesis 1:26 implies a plurality of persons in the godhead. Rather, Christian scholars overwhelmingly agree that the plural pronoun in this verse is a reference to God’s ministering angels who were created previously, and the Almighty spoke majestically in the plural, consulting His heavenly court. Let’s read the comments of a number of preeminent Trinitarian Bible scholars on this subject.

For example, the evangelical Christian author Gordon J. Wenham, who is no foe of the Trinity and authored a widely respected two-volume commentary on the Book of Genesis, writes on this verse,

Read and educate below

Did Someone Find the Doctrine of the Trinity In the First Chapter of the Bible To Whom Was God Speaking When He Said Let Us Make Man in Our Image Outreach Judaism

 

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But God had to turn away when His Son took upon himself the sins of the world. God is holy. He could not look upon it.

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sorry Jeri, that is not the same as forsaking Jesus, who while dying knew what that meant ...

you will hopefully come to the same conclusion.

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Why is God’s Name “Elohim” Plural?

Missionaries point to the plural form of the Hebrew name of God אֶלהִים, (Elohim), which appears frequently in the Torah, to bolster their claim that there is a complex unity in the godhead. They argue that the use of the Hebrew letters “ ים” (yud and mem, pronounced “im”), which is a plural suffix at the end of the word Elohim, provides ample evidence from Tanach that there is a plurality within the nature of God. an even more bizarre claim is that this Hebrew syntax is somehow indicative of the “plural form of three.”

it is important that we explore the crucial message which the name Elohim conveys to the Children of Israel. To be sure, two questions must be answered. 1) Why does the Torah employ this intensive plural name for the Almighty throughout the Torah? 2) Why is this name predominant throughout the creation narrative in the beginning of Genesis?

There is a fundamental principal regarding the many names of the Almighty as they appear in the Torah – they are exalted descriptions of the God of Israel. The name Elohim, which is not an exception to this rule, comes from the Hebrew root el, which means “might” or “power.” This common root appears in a variety of words throughout the Jewish Scriptures. For example, we find this word used in the famous opening words to Psalm 29, הָבוּ ליהוה בְּנֵי אֵלִים(havu la’donai b’nai eylim). This chapter is well known because this Psalm is joyously sung in every synagogue as the Torah scroll is returned into the ark following a congregational reading. What do these noble words mean?

“Ascribe to the Lord, O sons of the mighty. Ascribe to the Lord glory and strength”

(Psalm 29:1)

With these passages in mind, we have a deeper understanding of the name Elohim. The pagan mind ascribed a separate and distinct god for each of the powers in the world which it observed, and on whom it depended.


Did Someone Find the Doctrine of the Trinity In the Name of God Why is God s Name Elohim Plural Outreach Judaism

 

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It is commonly accepted that Islam is not Avodah Zarah (idolatry) since Islam has a clear monotheistic theology with a belief in Allah that parallels the Jewish view of "kail" or Hashem. It is even permissible for Jews to enter and pray (Jewish prayer) in a mosque. The views of Christianity and their Trinity are more clouded. Entering a Church is a questionable act.
Those who say that Christianity is Avodah Zara are just not being open-minded enough to their explanation of how the Trinity equals monotheism? Are those who say it's not Avodah Zara (idolatry) just looking to appease the Christian majority in the countries where Jews live?

In Jewish law, the idea of the Trinity falls under the catchall term of "shittuf" - worshipping God along with some other being.

Shittuf is prohibited for Jews. This means that a Jew would be prohibited to acknowledge the Christian savior as part of God.

No, because in Genesis your own book says that God said, Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness. Who was God speaking to? The Holy Spirit (His Spirit) and the Word that became flesh in John 1:1 and is identified as the One who created all things - Jesus Christ. That is who God the Father was speaking of. How could God be a Father if He didn't have a Son? How could God be a Spirit if he was not a Spirit - The Spirit of the LORD was with Gideon. The Spirit of the LORD was with Samson. THINK. It is 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 not 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.

While your Rabbi's have explained this away claiming that God was speaking to an angel that makes no sense because we were not created as angels. We were created in the image of God. We are a spirit, we live in a body and we have a soul. We are a trichotomy. Because we are made in the image of God - God the Father, God the Spirit, God the Word (Jesus Christ). Do you walk around calling yourself 3 persons? No. You say I and in that God in the very next verse after Genesis 1:26 does the same. Genesis 1:27 God said, So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him: male and female he created them.

See that?

In verse 26 he says Let US make man in Our image and after OUR likeness and in the very next verse he says I. Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is One. 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. NOT 3. "1".

No, because in Genesis your own book says that God said, Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness. Who was God speaking to?

Jeremiah
You need to study Judaism and read the Tanakh in Hebrew , that is the problem, you people read it in english and have no understanding of meanings.

And that is why you are a christian trying to convert Jews and will fail with Jews who do know.



One of the most popular verses used by missionaries as a proof text in support of the doctrine of the Trinity is Genesis 1:26. This verse appears frequently in missionary literature despite of the fact that this argument has been answered countless times throughout the centuries and numerous Christian scholars have long abandoned it. Let’s examine the creation of man as described in the Torah:

And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and they shall rule over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”

(Genesis 1:26)

With limited knowledge of the Jewish Scriptures, missionaries submit the above verse as evidence that there was a plurality in the godhead that participated in creation of our first parent. What other explanation could adequately account for the Torah’s use of the plural pronouns such as “us” and “our” in this verse?

This argument, however, is deeply flawed, and, accordingly, a great number of Trinitarian theologians have long rejected the notion that Genesis 1:26 implies a plurality of persons in the godhead. Rather, Christian scholars overwhelmingly agree that the plural pronoun in this verse is a reference to God’s ministering angels who were created previously, and the Almighty spoke majestically in the plural, consulting His heavenly court. Let’s read the comments of a number of preeminent Trinitarian Bible scholars on this subject.

For example, the evangelical Christian author Gordon J. Wenham, who is no foe of the Trinity and authored a widely respected two-volume commentary on the Book of Genesis, writes on this verse,

Read and educate below

Did Someone Find the Doctrine of the Trinity In the First Chapter of the Bible To Whom Was God Speaking When He Said Let Us Make Man in Our Image Outreach Judaism

If he needs help with translation of the torah, he should ask a rabbi.
There might not be a one for one translation of all words and past and future tense can be confusing. Hebrew does not use vowel so there can be a lot of misunderstanding by greek and latin translators not fluent in hebrew.

 

[guno]

It is commonly accepted that Islam is not Avodah Zarah (idolatry) since Islam has a clear monotheistic theology with a belief in Allah that parallels the Jewish view of "kail" or Hashem. It is even permissible for Jews to enter and pray (Jewish prayer) in a mosque. The views of Christianity and their Trinity are more clouded. Entering a Church is a questionable act.
Those who say that Christianity is Avodah Zara are just not being open-minded enough to their explanation of how the Trinity equals monotheism? Are those who say it's not Avodah Zara (idolatry) just looking to appease the Christian majority in the countries where Jews live?

In Jewish law, the idea of the Trinity falls under the catchall term of "shittuf" - worshipping God along with some other being.

Shittuf is prohibited for Jews. This means that a Jew would be prohibited to acknowledge the Christian savior as part of God.

No, because in Genesis your own book says that God said, Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness. Who was God speaking to? The Holy Spirit (His Spirit) and the Word that became flesh in John 1:1 and is identified as the One who created all things - Jesus Christ. That is who God the Father was speaking of. How could God be a Father if He didn't have a Son? How could God be a Spirit if he was not a Spirit - The Spirit of the LORD was with Gideon. The Spirit of the LORD was with Samson. THINK. It is 1 x 1 x 1 = 1 not 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.

While your Rabbi's have explained this away claiming that God was speaking to an angel that makes no sense because we were not created as angels. We were created in the image of God. We are a spirit, we live in a body and we have a soul. We are a trichotomy. Because we are made in the image of God - God the Father, God the Spirit, God the Word (Jesus Christ). Do you walk around calling yourself 3 persons? No. You say I and in that God in the very next verse after Genesis 1:26 does the same. Genesis 1:27 God said, So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him: male and female he created them.

See that?

In verse 26 he says Let US make man in Our image and after OUR likeness and in the very next verse he says I. Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is One. 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. NOT 3. "1".

No, because in Genesis your own book says that God said, Let US make man in OUR image and after OUR likeness. Who was God speaking to?

Jeremiah
You need to study Judaism and read the Tanakh in Hebrew , that is the problem, you people read it in english and have no understanding of meanings.

And that is why you are a christian trying to convert Jews and will fail with Jews who do know.



One of the most popular verses used by missionaries as a proof text in support of the doctrine of the Trinity is Genesis 1:26. This verse appears frequently in missionary literature despite of the fact that this argument has been answered countless times throughout the centuries and numerous Christian scholars have long abandoned it. Let’s examine the creation of man as described in the Torah:

And God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and they shall rule over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the sky, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth.”

(Genesis 1:26)

With limited knowledge of the Jewish Scriptures, missionaries submit the above verse as evidence that there was a plurality in the godhead that participated in creation of our first parent. What other explanation could adequately account for the Torah’s use of the plural pronouns such as “us” and “our” in this verse?

This argument, however, is deeply flawed, and, accordingly, a great number of Trinitarian theologians have long rejected the notion that Genesis 1:26 implies a plurality of persons in the godhead. Rather, Christian scholars overwhelmingly agree that the plural pronoun in this verse is a reference to God’s ministering angels who were created previously, and the Almighty spoke majestically in the plural, consulting His heavenly court. Let’s read the comments of a number of preeminent Trinitarian Bible scholars on this subject.

For example, the evangelical Christian author Gordon J. Wenham, who is no foe of the Trinity and authored a widely respected two-volume commentary on the Book of Genesis, writes on this verse,

Read and educate below

Did Someone Find the Doctrine of the Trinity In the First Chapter of the Bible To Whom Was God Speaking When He Said Let Us Make Man in Our Image Outreach Judaism

If he needs help with translation of the torah, he should ask a rabbi.
There might not be a one for one translation of all words and past and future tense can be confusing. Hebrew does not use vowel so there can be a lot of misunderstanding by greek and latin translators not fluent in hebrew.

Jeri is a She

 

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It is commonly accepted that Islam is not Avodah Zarah (idolatry) since Islam has a clear monotheistic theology with a belief in Allah that parallels the Jewish view of "kail" or Hashem. It is even permissible for Jews to enter and pray (Jewish prayer) in a mosque. The views of Christianity and their Trinity are more clouded. Entering a Church is a questionable act.
Those who say that Christianity is Avodah Zara are just not being open-minded enough to their explanation of how the Trinity equals monotheism? Are those who say it's not Avodah Zara (idolatry) just looking to appease the Christian majority in the countries where Jews live?

In Jewish law, the idea of the Trinity falls under the catchall term of "shittuf" - worshipping God along with some other being.

Shittuf is prohibited for Jews. This means that a Jew would be prohibited to acknowledge the Christian savior as part of God.

If you bow before a cross, it's idolatry.

# Not to worship an idol in the way in which it is usually worshipped (Ex. 20:5) (CCN12).
# Not to bow down to an idol, even if that is not its mode of worship (Ex. 20:5)