Ray From Cleveland
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So, they are "forced" to pay taxes? "Forced" to follow laws?I talk about it in previous posts:
Why I haven't been able to get into Bernie Sanders: | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum
France train shooting: Hollande thanks 'heroes' who foiled gunman - BBC News
French President Francois Hollande has thanked three American men hailed as heroes for overpowering a heavily-armed gunman on a train in northern France.
One of the Americans said they took an AK-47 assault rifle and a handgun from the attacker as they saw him walk down the aisle of the train.
Two of the American men who overpowered the gunman, Spencer Stone and Alek Skarlatos, are members of the Air Force and the National Guard respectively.
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A real and true unbiased draft gives young men and women confidence from the training, it gives them the chance of serving the country. When I was in the service, one of the guys in the battery had a father who owned a chain of department stores. It's youngsters like that who have the most difficult time. They never had to work. And were spoiled their entire lives. He had to find out what it means to actually work hard. And he had to actually learn how other people live. Hand me downs and new shoes and never having glasses were totally new and unexpected to someone who got every expensive thing new and unused.
And if there were military trained personnel in the movie theater shootings, and other shootings, most former solders will rush the gunman providing the smallest silhouette that's possible using any available cover. They will know how to disarm the terrorist, tie him up or kill him and keep the crowd calm. Just staying sitting ducks is much less likely when the targets for former military.
In this day and age, I think the draft is a great idea and if you avoid it by running off to another country, like Romney did, then good. Stay there.
So you're in favor of forcing people into the military to defend themselves but against allowing us to arm ourselves to defend ourselves. Why use a tack hammer on a tack when you have a perfectly good sledge hammer.
A draft in a war is a dubious use of government coercion over it's own people, but a peace time use of force to compel people to serve the government is an absolute abomination. Statists like you are sick and need treatment
Republicans tricked the country into Iraq and when soldiers complained, Republicans, and even those right here on the USMB, answered "no one was forced to go".
Democrats want to help this country in so many ways. They want clean air, clean water, to save our national forests, they want Americans to have health care, education, good jobs, and to study situations overseas before making a commitment.
What do Republicans want? They say clean air and clean water are not affordable. They block health care and education. They helped send jobs to China and they invaded Iraq without knowing anything about the country or the people. And they are such hypocrites. Complaining about government intervention and supporting billions in subsidies to Iowa farmers. Ethanol corm comes to mind.
I don't just believe in the draft, I believe EVERYBODY should have a commitment to the good of the country. Serve two years. It could be as a teacher in Appalachia or in Watts, It could be building bridges. Helping the elderly, the disabled, providing therapy for maimed soldiers from Iraq.
The list is endless. Republicans, the same people who walk away from the born, do everything they can to make Americans miserable, think this is a terrible idea. But is that any surprise? Really, think about who they are and what they represent. Is it any surprise?
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I believe you're thinking of the wrong party.
It's liberals that want to make everybody miserable in this country. Look at their record.
If a liberal sees a man happily walking through a park, smoking a cigarette, bothering nobody, it's the liberal that petitions the local government to stop smoking outside in the park so as to take that happiness away from that man.
If a liberal sees people happily eating their fast food at McDonald's, it's the liberal that wants to take that fast food away from those people so they will no longer be happy.
If a liberal sees a happy person with a lot of money, it's the liberal that insists government take away more of his money making him less happy.
If a liberal knows there is a person happily carrying their firearm for protection of themselves and their family, it's the liberal that wants to take that protection away from those people.
Liberals just aren't happy unless they are taking measures to make everybody else as miserable as they are.