Is it time to end US asylum?

[candycorn]

Don’t you have a race to “preserve” somewhere?

Yep, but that's only part of it. One has to get defensive when against an anti-white party like the Democrats. The rest does have to do with them turning us into a bilingual country, taking our jobs, lowering wages for everybody, the gangs, crimes and murders, the billions it takes to try and keep these people out that our taxes pay for, and sending their earned money back over the border to their families.

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

 

[Sahba]

Yep, but that's only part of it. One has to get defensive when against an anti-white party like the Democrats. The rest does have to do with them turning us into a bilingual country, taking our jobs, lowering wages for everybody, the gangs, crimes and murders, the billions it takes to try and keep these people out that our taxes pay for, and sending their earned money back over the border to their families.

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

YES... U could provide the names of individuals or entities that might shed light on your status. However, as per what the rest of the world does... they seem to find it incumbent on recent arrivals, not speaking the language to carry papers on themselves or some form of ID, even if it's just a train ticket, boarding pass, library card... Citizenship status in this country affords one a tremendous amount of rights. Non citizen status in the US is a PRIVILEGE... with somewhat curtailed rights, not even encompassing 'Natural Rights'... lol

 

[Thinker101]

Yep, but that's only part of it. One has to get defensive when against an anti-white party like the Democrats. The rest does have to do with them turning us into a bilingual country, taking our jobs, lowering wages for everybody, the gangs, crimes and murders, the billions it takes to try and keep these people out that our taxes pay for, and sending their earned money back over the border to their families.

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

Good to see your asking question, you may learn something.

 

[candycorn]

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

YES... U could provide the names of individuals or entities that might shed light on your status. However, as per what the rest of the world does... they seem to find it incumbent on recent arrivals, not speaking the language to carry papers on themselves or some form of ID, even if it's just a train ticket, boarding pass, library card... Citizenship status in this country affords one a tremendous amount of rights. Non citizen status in the US is a PRIVILEGE… with somewhat curtailed rights, not even encompassing 'Natural Rights'... lol

So you name some people and the police will believe you…right? No matter what. Just give them some names and boom…no problem. Is that the world you live in?

 

[Sahba]

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

YES... U could provide the names of individuals or entities that might shed light on your status. However, as per what the rest of the world does... they seem to find it incumbent on recent arrivals, not speaking the language to carry papers on themselves or some form of ID, even if it's just a train ticket, boarding pass, library card... Citizenship status in this country affords one a tremendous amount of rights. Non citizen status in the US is a PRIVILEGE… with somewhat curtailed rights, not even encompassing 'Natural Rights'... lol

So you name some people and the police will believe you…right? No matter what. Just give them some names and boom…no problem. Is that the world you live in?

I certainly would hope not... the Po Po tend to corroborate the spoken word as much of what they are exposed to is BS. BTW that would be at their prerogative... last resort, as "understanding" officers. By the book, without any documentation, and not speaking the language, or offering anything to indicate who they are... YES they would (or should) be given a 'free' ride down to the station to get fingerprinted... lol Like the rest of the World requires... carry papers / ID if you are supposed to be doing so!!!

 

[candycorn]

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

YES... U could provide the names of individuals or entities that might shed light on your status. However, as per what the rest of the world does... they seem to find it incumbent on recent arrivals, not speaking the language to carry papers on themselves or some form of ID, even if it's just a train ticket, boarding pass, library card... Citizenship status in this country affords one a tremendous amount of rights. Non citizen status in the US is a PRIVILEGE… with somewhat curtailed rights, not even encompassing 'Natural Rights'... lol

So you name some people and the police will believe you…right? No matter what. Just give them some names and boom…no problem. Is that the world you live in?

I certainly would hope not... the Po Po tend to corroborate the spoken word as much of what they are exposed to is BS. BTW that would be at their prerogative... last resort, as "understanding" officers. By the book, without any documentation, and not speaking the language, or offering anything to indicate who they are... YES they would (or should) be given a 'free' ride down to the station to get fingerprinted... lol Like the rest of the World requires... carry papers / ID if you are supposed to be doing so!!!

So, again, could YOU prove you're a citizen on the spot if stopped by the police? If so, how? When asked earlier you said you could name some people and now you say that wouldn't and shouldn't do it.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

When a leftist is backed into a corner, always whip out the race card.

Don’t you have a race to “preserve” somewhere?

Yep, but that's only part of it. One has to get defensive when against an anti-white party like the Democrats. The rest does have to do with them turning us into a bilingual country, taking our jobs, lowering wages for everybody, the gangs, crimes and murders, the billions it takes to try and keep these people out that our taxes pay for, and sending their earned money back over the border to their families.

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

Or just get rid of asylum altogether. That would stop the problem we are currently having.

 

[candycorn]

Don’t you have a race to “preserve” somewhere?

Yep, but that's only part of it. One has to get defensive when against an anti-white party like the Democrats. The rest does have to do with them turning us into a bilingual country, taking our jobs, lowering wages for everybody, the gangs, crimes and murders, the billions it takes to try and keep these people out that our taxes pay for, and sending their earned money back over the border to their families.

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

Or just get rid of asylum altogether. That would stop the problem we are currently having.

No. You guys would just move on to another scape goat to blame all of society's woes upon.

The only great benefit that the legalized kidnapping of kids has done is stop your retarded asses from pursuing the drug testing for welfare recipients under the guise of stopping crime, curtailing litter, stopping obesity, erasing post nasal drip...and every other malady we suffer from. .

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yep, but that's only part of it. One has to get defensive when against an anti-white party like the Democrats. The rest does have to do with them turning us into a bilingual country, taking our jobs, lowering wages for everybody, the gangs, crimes and murders, the billions it takes to try and keep these people out that our taxes pay for, and sending their earned money back over the border to their families.

We had the same issues with crime and economics long before “these people” got here. They didn’t cause them. They are just the group your perverted blob told you was the cause of our problems.

What demographic do you think comprises 1/3 of our Nation's prison population! Why are prepubescent girls to older women crossing the boarder with plenty of "the day after pill" in their possession! Why are we spending tens of billions in each budget on illegal immigration related expenses! Why are the perpetrated rape, DUI & murder rates so high in the "illegal" demographic!

Ya know what though U R right about preexisting issues... we have lots and lots of problems with our own citizens... why exponentially compound it with a population that is by definition of being here... criminalistic

Seems like a better position would be to use our nation’s blood and treasure to remedy the long standing problem instead of jailing 8 year old kids.

Or just get rid of asylum altogether. That would stop the problem we are currently having.

No. You guys would just move on to another scape goat to blame all of society's woes upon.

The only great benefit that the legalized kidnapping of kids has done is stop your retarded asses from pursuing the drug testing for welfare recipients under the guise of stopping crime, curtailing litter, stopping obesity, erasing post nasal drip...and every other malady we suffer from. .

The conservative ideology is to solve a problem by any means and move on to the next one. Liberals like to look good and solve nothing.

Yes, we are for stopping obesity, that's why Republicans forced schools to.......Oh, never mind, I'm thinking of somebody else.

A liberal thinks it's okay for workers to be drug tested in order to work, but not to collect welfare. They cried "what about the children of welfare recipients?" Yet they never gave a rats ass about what happened to the children of working people when the parent lost their job due to drug testing.

"Folks, liberals measure success by intent. Conservatives measure success by results."
Rush Limbaugh

 

[Sahba]

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period). Or have the kids in lockup with their "parents"... BTW, you should be pointing the finger at Obama for 'caging kids'. If you look into what is happening currently... other than being without their parents, a lot of 'enriching' resources are going into these kids much better & more than in many sections of this Nation... 'edgimicate' yourself... lol

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

YES... U could provide the names of individuals or entities that might shed light on your status. However, as per what the rest of the world does... they seem to find it incumbent on recent arrivals, not speaking the language to carry papers on themselves or some form of ID, even if it's just a train ticket, boarding pass, library card... Citizenship status in this country affords one a tremendous amount of rights. Non citizen status in the US is a PRIVILEGE… with somewhat curtailed rights, not even encompassing 'Natural Rights'... lol

So you name some people and the police will believe you…right? No matter what. Just give them some names and boom…no problem. Is that the world you live in?

I certainly would hope not... the Po Po tend to corroborate the spoken word as much of what they are exposed to is BS. BTW that would be at their prerogative... last resort, as "understanding" officers. By the book, without any documentation, and not speaking the language, or offering anything to indicate who they are... YES they would (or should) be given a 'free' ride down to the station to get fingerprinted... lol Like the rest of the World requires... carry papers / ID if you are supposed to be doing so!!!

So, again, could YOU prove you're a citizen on the spot if stopped by the police? If so, how? When asked earlier you said you could name some people and now you say that wouldn't and shouldn't do it.

If there is no required ID and no form of corroboration on their legal status... They should be taken for fingerprinting... For you are correct, there is NO way to tell... duh! (is that somehow the admission that you are seeking??? lol) In reality, unless there is some infraction, this is a non issue. UNFORTUNATELY... IMHO !!!

 

[candycorn]

If you were stopped by the police, could you prove you’re a citizen on the spot?

YES... U could provide the names of individuals or entities that might shed light on your status. However, as per what the rest of the world does... they seem to find it incumbent on recent arrivals, not speaking the language to carry papers on themselves or some form of ID, even if it's just a train ticket, boarding pass, library card... Citizenship status in this country affords one a tremendous amount of rights. Non citizen status in the US is a PRIVILEGE… with somewhat curtailed rights, not even encompassing 'Natural Rights'... lol

So you name some people and the police will believe you…right? No matter what. Just give them some names and boom…no problem. Is that the world you live in?

I certainly would hope not... the Po Po tend to corroborate the spoken word as much of what they are exposed to is BS. BTW that would be at their prerogative... last resort, as "understanding" officers. By the book, without any documentation, and not speaking the language, or offering anything to indicate who they are... YES they would (or should) be given a 'free' ride down to the station to get fingerprinted... lol Like the rest of the World requires... carry papers / ID if you are supposed to be doing so!!!

So, again, could YOU prove you're a citizen on the spot if stopped by the police? If so, how? When asked earlier you said you could name some people and now you say that wouldn't and shouldn't do it.

If there is no required ID and no form of corroboration on their legal status... They should be taken for fingerprinting... For you are correct, there is NO way to tell... duh! (is that somehow the admission that you are seeking??? lol) In reality, unless there is some infraction, this is a non issue. UNFORTUNATELY... IMHO !!!

I’m just going to substitute your “they” for yourself because, supposedly, we’re all equal in the eyes of the law..right?

So, there is nothing you can provide that will guarantee you’re a citizen so this arbitrary 24 hour deportation you’re asking for could be applied to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

PS: Fingerprinting someone does nothing unless the person has had fingerprints taken before. There isn’t some worldwide database of fingerprints.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So, there is nothing you can provide that will guarantee you’re a citizen so this arbitrary 24 hour deportation you’re asking for could be applied to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Deport them to where? When you deport somebody, you send them back to their country. Where then do you send a US citizen?

This kind of discussion is like the situations we've seen at the airport where a little 80 year old white nun is getting searched and the guy with the turban walks right on the plane no questions asked, all in the name of political correctness and to avoid people accusing us of racial profiling.

 

[candycorn]

So, there is nothing you can provide that will guarantee you’re a citizen so this arbitrary 24 hour deportation you’re asking for could be applied to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Deport them to where? When you deport somebody, you send them back to their country. Where then do you send a US citizen?

This kind of discussion is like the situations we've seen at the airport where a little 80 year old white nun is getting searched and the guy with the turban walks right on the plane no questions asked, all in the name of political correctness and to avoid people accusing us of racial profiling.

You'd have to ask Sahba...it's her idea to have a 24 hour dismissal window

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period).

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So, there is nothing you can provide that will guarantee you’re a citizen so this arbitrary 24 hour deportation you’re asking for could be applied to anyone, anywhere, anytime.

Deport them to where? When you deport somebody, you send them back to their country. Where then do you send a US citizen?

This kind of discussion is like the situations we've seen at the airport where a little 80 year old white nun is getting searched and the guy with the turban walks right on the plane no questions asked, all in the name of political correctness and to avoid people accusing us of racial profiling.

You'd have to ask Sahba...it's her idea to have a 24 hour dismissal window

2 options... turn them immediately away / immediate, no exception deportation within 24 hr. (period).

She's absolutely correct. I think any American can prove who they are simply by a SS number. The police identify people like that all the time.

Now that this new wave of trash are making their way to our borders, I think it's time to end Asylum in the US once and for all. If people are going to use our own laws and policies against us, the solution is to end them and to hell with the rest of the world.

 

[John Shaw]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

You missed the target but hit the tree. Donald Trump is the one who is using immigrants to divide Americans. Trump and Trump alone is responsible for this fiasco.

Trump has created this crisis in order to advance his agenda of stopping non-white, non-Christian immigration. The immigrants are running from the violence that American policies and American gangs have created in their homelands. YOUR country has created multiple refugee crises in the Middle East and Latin America.

Having made a botched mess of foreign policy which created all these refugees, you now claim they aren’t your problem.

MS13 is an American gang. Americans exported that gang to El Salvador. Now Americans don’t want that shit coming back to them. Fair enough, but you exported this violence to El Salvador, not the other way around.

The US is in the business of exporting gang culture around the world. Crips, Bloods, MS13, Hell’s Angels - all are American gangs now found in many countries. We had Crips and Bloods in Toronto. I guess the rest of the world should ban Americans to keep their gangs out of our countries.

American policy creates these refugees and then Americans don’t want to help clean up the mess YOU created.

Stop blaming the refugees and start pressuring your leaders to clean up the mess they made.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/02/11/what-is-ms-13/

Absolutely right. I've been saying for years that we should withdraw from all armed conflict and suspend all foreign aid throughout the world. Let the U.S. support only itself, and damn everyone else. Thanks for seeing the light as well.

 

[John Shaw]

i don't care about Cohen or Mueller and just one imported person either legal or illegal as both categories are simply governments word games . Anyway , just one new import into the USA is one too many . I ask again , USA is a country with 310 million [census] legal resident in 2010 plus millions of illegals , Why does the USA People need or want more legal residents in the USA DLady eh ???

Because your population is aging and Americans aren’t having children fast enough to replace the dying older population. 5,000,000 jobs are going begging in the US right now with no workers to fill them. How long before these companies start moving to countries with a better educated work force?

But the big reason you need immigrants is to grow your economy. Immigrants who arrive with little but the clothes on their backs need homes, furniture, appliances, cars, pots, pans, dishes and clothing. They are the ultimate consumers because they have nothing.

Immigrants contribute MORE to the economy than they cost in government services.

The American problem is that your country is so poorly managed and so lacking in first world systems of health care delivery, public education, infrastructure, and gun control, that it’s become the shithole country of the first world. White European immigration has all but dried up because people from the EU, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, have a better quality of life at home, and more opportunities right where they are.

The US is corrupt, poorly managed and politically unstable. Not a good bet for business investment or high quality emigration at the moment. The only people who want to come to the US are those who are worse off where they are.

Look at it this way, if you were a rich white family in The Netherlands or Norway, who decided to leave their home country, would you move to the US - where health insurance costs $20,000 a year plus copays, for families, for access to a system ranked 34th in the World. Where public education is being undermined by the government and isn’t even ranked in the top 20 in the World, where more children have died in school shootings this year than combat soldiers have died in all of the combat regions where the US is currently stationed?

Or would you move to a country with high quality government funded health care, quality education, low crime rates, gun control laws, infrastructure, and a strong social safety net?

Last but not least, the USA is largely responsible for the crime and the economic conditions these Central American refugees are fleeing and directly responsible for the Syrian refugee crisis. Americans have a MORAL obligation to clean up the mess they’ve made of things and help the victims of US foreign policy.

Nice try.

Those coming here are not immigrants. Immigrants apply through legal means.

The bald attempts of Trumpkins to paint refugees and those seeking asylum as something less than human beings looking for safety is deplorable.

The USA is creating refugee crises around the world with their foreign policy and then saying “Don’t look at us to help you”. This is morally reprehensible.

You broke it, you fix it. You created a refugee crisis in Central America. You want refugees to stop coming, stop creating refugees.

Yes, everything is the fault of the United States. EVERYTHING!! No matter where in the world it happens, or how complex it happens to be, it's always our fault in stark black and white terms. Too true. Glad you Canadians are around to teach us stupid southerners that we're the Anti-Christ. Thanks mate!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

i don't care about Cohen or Mueller and just one imported person either legal or illegal as both categories are simply governments word games . Anyway , just one new import into the USA is one too many . I ask again , USA is a country with 310 million [census] legal resident in 2010 plus millions of illegals , Why does the USA People need or want more legal residents in the USA DLady eh ???

Because your population is aging and Americans aren’t having children fast enough to replace the dying older population. 5,000,000 jobs are going begging in the US right now with no workers to fill them. How long before these companies start moving to countries with a better educated work force?

But the big reason you need immigrants is to grow your economy. Immigrants who arrive with little but the clothes on their backs need homes, furniture, appliances, cars, pots, pans, dishes and clothing. They are the ultimate consumers because they have nothing.

Immigrants contribute MORE to the economy than they cost in government services.

The American problem is that your country is so poorly managed and so lacking in first world systems of health care delivery, public education, infrastructure, and gun control, that it’s become the shithole country of the first world. White European immigration has all but dried up because people from the EU, Canada, Australia and New Zealand, have a better quality of life at home, and more opportunities right where they are.

The US is corrupt, poorly managed and politically unstable. Not a good bet for business investment or high quality emigration at the moment. The only people who want to come to the US are those who are worse off where they are.

Look at it this way, if you were a rich white family in The Netherlands or Norway, who decided to leave their home country, would you move to the US - where health insurance costs $20,000 a year plus copays, for families, for access to a system ranked 34th in the World. Where public education is being undermined by the government and isn’t even ranked in the top 20 in the World, where more children have died in school shootings this year than combat soldiers have died in all of the combat regions where the US is currently stationed?

Or would you move to a country with high quality government funded health care, quality education, low crime rates, gun control laws, infrastructure, and a strong social safety net?

Last but not least, the USA is largely responsible for the crime and the economic conditions these Central American refugees are fleeing and directly responsible for the Syrian refugee crisis. Americans have a MORAL obligation to clean up the mess they’ve made of things and help the victims of US foreign policy.

Nice try.

Those coming here are not immigrants. Immigrants apply through legal means.

The bald attempts of Trumpkins to paint refugees and those seeking asylum as something less than human beings looking for safety is deplorable.

The USA is creating refugee crises around the world with their foreign policy and then saying “Don’t look at us to help you”. This is morally reprehensible.

You broke it, you fix it. You created a refugee crisis in Central America. You want refugees to stop coming, stop creating refugees.

Yes, everything is the fault of the United States. EVERYTHING!! No matter where in the world it happens, or how complex it happens to be, it's always our fault in stark black and white terms. Too true. Glad you Canadians are around to teach us stupid southerners that we're the Anti-Christ. Thanks mate!

Yep, the Blame America First crowd. I think they should rename the Democrat party to the Blame-Shift party. At least it would be more accurate.

 

[Unkotare]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

You missed the target but hit the tree. Donald Trump is the one who is using immigrants to divide Americans. Trump and Trump alone is responsible for this fiasco.

Trump has created this crisis in order to advance his agenda of stopping non-white, non-Christian immigration. The immigrants are running from the violence that American policies and American gangs have created in their homelands. YOUR country has created multiple refugee crises in the Middle East and Latin America.

Having made a botched mess of foreign policy which created all these refugees, you now claim they aren’t your problem.

MS13 is an American gang. Americans exported that gang to El Salvador. Now Americans don’t want that shit coming back to them. Fair enough, but you exported this violence to El Salvador, not the other way around.

The US is in the business of exporting gang culture around the world. Crips, Bloods, MS13, Hell’s Angels - all are American gangs now found in many countries. We had Crips and Bloods in Toronto. I guess the rest of the world should ban Americans to keep their gangs out of our countries.

American policy creates these refugees and then Americans don’t want to help clean up the mess YOU created.

Stop blaming the refugees and start pressuring your leaders to clean up the mess they made.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/02/11/what-is-ms-13/

Absolutely right. I've been saying for years that we should withdraw from all armed conflict and suspend all foreign aid throughout the world. Let the U.S. support only itself, and damn everyone else. Thanks for seeing the light as well.

dimwitted and myopic.

 

[John Shaw]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

You missed the target but hit the tree. Donald Trump is the one who is using immigrants to divide Americans. Trump and Trump alone is responsible for this fiasco.

Trump has created this crisis in order to advance his agenda of stopping non-white, non-Christian immigration. The immigrants are running from the violence that American policies and American gangs have created in their homelands. YOUR country has created multiple refugee crises in the Middle East and Latin America.

Having made a botched mess of foreign policy which created all these refugees, you now claim they aren’t your problem.

MS13 is an American gang. Americans exported that gang to El Salvador. Now Americans don’t want that shit coming back to them. Fair enough, but you exported this violence to El Salvador, not the other way around.

The US is in the business of exporting gang culture around the world. Crips, Bloods, MS13, Hell’s Angels - all are American gangs now found in many countries. We had Crips and Bloods in Toronto. I guess the rest of the world should ban Americans to keep their gangs out of our countries.

American policy creates these refugees and then Americans don’t want to help clean up the mess YOU created.

Stop blaming the refugees and start pressuring your leaders to clean up the mess they made.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/02/11/what-is-ms-13/

Absolutely right. I've been saying for years that we should withdraw from all armed conflict and suspend all foreign aid throughout the world. Let the U.S. support only itself, and damn everyone else. Thanks for seeing the light as well.

dimwitted and myopic.

Oh yeah, here's that guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but never actually says anything except for vague insults. Great.

 

[Unkotare]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

You missed the target but hit the tree. Donald Trump is the one who is using immigrants to divide Americans. Trump and Trump alone is responsible for this fiasco.

Trump has created this crisis in order to advance his agenda of stopping non-white, non-Christian immigration. The immigrants are running from the violence that American policies and American gangs have created in their homelands. YOUR country has created multiple refugee crises in the Middle East and Latin America.

Having made a botched mess of foreign policy which created all these refugees, you now claim they aren’t your problem.

MS13 is an American gang. Americans exported that gang to El Salvador. Now Americans don’t want that shit coming back to them. Fair enough, but you exported this violence to El Salvador, not the other way around.

The US is in the business of exporting gang culture around the world. Crips, Bloods, MS13, Hell’s Angels - all are American gangs now found in many countries. We had Crips and Bloods in Toronto. I guess the rest of the world should ban Americans to keep their gangs out of our countries.

American policy creates these refugees and then Americans don’t want to help clean up the mess YOU created.

Stop blaming the refugees and start pressuring your leaders to clean up the mess they made.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/02/11/what-is-ms-13/

Absolutely right. I've been saying for years that we should withdraw from all armed conflict and suspend all foreign aid throughout the world. Let the U.S. support only itself, and damn everyone else. Thanks for seeing the light as well.

dimwitted and myopic.

Oh yeah, here's that guy who thinks he's smarter than everyone else, but never actually says anything except for vague insults. Great.

Take the time to study some history.