Soupnazi630
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Word games do not count.So then you disagree with CERN when they say...We do not know whether or not existed before the beginning of the universe.How are they not the same?You are a childish lair as you have proven no such thing.I have proved that space and time were created (i.e. that it had a beginning) and that beginning followed the Laws of Nature, specifically the laws of quantum mechanics and the law of conservation, and that those laws were in place before space and time itself.I need none as I have only stated that you have failed to prove a creator or god and that is fact and you know it.
Created and had a beginning are not the same thing.
Where did all the matter and energy come from it if could not have existed forever and had a beginning?
"...all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago.
Origins: CERN: Ideas: The Big Bang | Exploratorium
Your interpretation that there was a creator is not supported by their choice of words.