Is the United States the most corrupt country on the planet ?

[JimBowie1958]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

I disagree that the USA is the MOST corrupt country in the world, in part because political comppetition tends to remove the low hanging fruit pretty quickly.

But our corruption is all the same just more hidden. Here we dont push an envelope of cash into someones pocket, but instead we donate to their persons pet charity (that might be giving them kickbacks), or donate to their electoral campaign.

But India, Russia and China are fairly open with their corruption and no subtlety is generally required.

 

[the other mike]

Democrats are the only thing stupider than Republicans.

 

[miketx]

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Democrats are the only thing stupider than Republicans.

No troll, that was Obastards wall.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Let me sum up the OP's source message:


Rich man BAD!!!


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[mudwhistle]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

If the Democrats were to all pack up and move to Canada 99.999% of the corruption would go with them.

 

[the other mike]

Instead of fixing it, let's make it 10 times worse.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

If the Democrats were to all pack up and move to Canada 99.999% of the corruption would go with them.

49.999%

Don't ket those corrupt Repubs off the hook.

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[the other mike]

If the Democrats were to all pack up and move to Canada 99.999% of the corruption would go with them.

Wake up.

 

[task0778]

There is no gov't on the face of the planet where corruption does not exist. Those that have a capitalistic economic system just have more money to steal, but make no mistake, socialistic economies have corruption too, just on a smaller scale. Yes, some not to the degree we have in the US and in other places, but that is NOT a function of the economic model but rather is relative to the governance that exists. No question, corruption is a major problem here, nobody is going to doubt that. BUT, to say it's the worst is nonsense, there are so many other countries where corruption has been a fact of life for centuries, and it's a lot worse relatively speaking than here.

Not many places have the freedoms that we do, nor the opportunities to make a lot of money either. But those 2 factors also offer greater opportunities for lying, cheating, and stealing, plus fraud, waste, and abuse; our judicial system is based on innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around and that means it isn't as easy to find somebody guilty of illegalities. Most of us are well aware that money talks and it also keeps you out of prison unless you were really dumb about hiding the evidence.

So - from the standpoint of the amount of corruption in terms of dollars unethically or illegally obtained, yeah we're number 1 cuz we got way more money to get one way or another. But relative to the GDP of a given country, nah.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Of course the US is not the most corrupt country in the world. Spend a few days in Russia if you want to see low level corruption.
At a higher level your politicians are all bought and paid for and the interests of the people are secondary to those of the elites.

 

[mudwhistle]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

If the Democrats were to all pack up and move to Canada 99.999% of the corruption would go with them.

49.999%

Don't ket those corrupt Repubs off the hook.

.

Nope. Every Democrat is corrupt.
Only a handful of Republicans are.

 

[the other mike]

There is no gov't on the face of the planet where corruption does not exist. Those that have a capitalistic economic system just have more money to steal, but make no mistake, socialistic economies have corruption too, just on a smaller scale. Yes, some not to the degree we have in the US and in other places, but that is NOT a function of the economic model but rather is relative to the governance that exists. No question, corruption is a major problem here, nobody is going to doubt that. BUT, to say it's the worst is nonsense, there are so many other countries where corruption has been a fact of life for centuries, and it's a lot worse relatively speaking than here.

Not many places have the freedoms that we do, nor the opportunities to make a lot of money either. But those 2 factors also offer greater opportunities for lying, cheating, and stealing, plus fraud, waste, and abuse; our judicial system is based on innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around and that means it isn't as easy to find somebody guilty of illegalities. Most of us are well aware that money talks and it also keeps you out of prison unless you were really dumb about hiding the evidence.

So - from the standpoint of the amount of corruption in terms of dollars unethically or illegally obtained, yeah we're number 1 cuz we got way more money to get one way or another. But relative to the GDP of a given country, nah.

Finally a thoughtful, and civil reply. Thank you.
This seems to be a rare occurrence @ USMB so far.

 

[Kondor3]

...Crooked Hillary lost you know.

And Even Crookeder Cadet Bone Spurs won... what's your point?

 

[Kondor3]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

If the Democrats were to all pack up and move to Canada 99.999% of the corruption would go with them.

49.999%

Don't ket those corrupt Repubs off the hook.

.

Nope. Every Democrat is corrupt.
Only a handful of Republicans are.

Oh, puh-leeze... BOTH sides of the aisle are full of Vote Whores and Snake-Oil Salesmen and Bought Creatures...

 

[bripat9643]

The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

A sure sign of corruption is an electoral outcome like that of 2016. An addled nonentity like Donald Trump got filthy rich via tax loopholes and predatory behavior in his casinos and other businesses, and then was permitted to buy the presidency with his own money. He was given billions of dollars in free campaign time every evening on CNN, MSNBC, Fox and other channels that should have been more even-handed, because they were in search of advertising dollars and Trump was a good draw.

Then, too, the way the Supreme Court got rid of campaign finance reform and allowed open, unlimited secret buying of elections is the height of corruption. The permitting of massive black money in our elections was taken advantage of by the Russian Federation, which, having hopelessly corrupted its own presidential elections, managed to further corrupt the American ones as well. Once ensconced in power, Trump Inc. has taken advantage of the power of White House to engage in a wide range of corrupt practices, including an attempt to sell visas to wealthy Chinese and the promotion of the Trump brand as part of diplomacy.

That's all leftwing spin and propaganda. You can safely be ignored.

 

[bripat9643]

Of course the US is not the most corrupt country in the world. Spend a few days in Russia if you want to see low level corruption.
At a higher level your politicians are all bought and paid for and the interests of the people are secondary to those of the elites.

Do you genuinely believe your politicians aren't bought and paid for?

 

[the other mike]

That's all leftwing spin and propaganda. You can safely be ignored.

Conversation within a balanced debate is not propaganda necessarily. That's just 2 paragraphs of a long article .

 

[Toro]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

You should travel outside your county more.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Of course the US is not the most corrupt country in the world. Spend a few days in Russia if you want to see low level corruption.
At a higher level your politicians are all bought and paid for and the interests of the people are secondary to those of the elites.

Do you genuinely believe your politicians aren't bought and paid for?

I think that many of them are. It doesnt make it right.

 

[Meathead]

I took the liberty of rewording the title of this article . Questioning your government is the most American thing a person can do, unless you no longer respect the Constitution, namely the First Amendment.

The United States fell six places to a ranking of only 22 in Transparency International’s list of countries by corruption. Under Donald Trump, America is not in the top 20 for fair dealing.

But as I have argued before, the United States is the most corrupt country in the world and should be ranked 194, not 22. What follows is a much-revised version of my popular list.

Obviously, the U.S. Departments of Justice and the Treasury would not give corporations impunity for obtaining contracts by bribery, and it is this sort of scrupulousness that the Transparency International list is rewarding. And Americans don’t have to bribe government officials, as is true in many countries (though, to be fair to the government officials, they typically demand bribes because their governments don’t pay them a living wage).

But in all sorts of ways, U.S. corruption is off the charts, and because the U.S. is still the No. 1 economy in the world by nominal gross domestic product, massive corruption here has a global impact.

Here are the top signs that the U.S. is the most corrupt country in the world:
The United States Is the Most Corrupt Country in the World

Never heard of Cuba, Venezuela, or Mexico?

...Crooked Hillary lost you know.

And Even Crookeder Cadet Bone Spurs won... what's your point?

No. No one is more crooked than Hillary. No one. (and it's more crooked, not crookeder)