ISIS seizes Saddam's chemical weapons

[Antares]

Just to be clear.....we are NOW fighting in Iraq those we ARMED in Syria.....

 

[KNB]

Why did Bush and everyone else think Saddam had WMDs to begin with.

For one thing, he used WMDs against the Kurds and Iranians. For another, British Intelligence told them Saddam had WMDs.

Shaking Hands with Saddam Hussein

 

[Siete]

Reagan gave Saddam weapons to fight the Russians? Srange. I didn't know Russia had invaded Iraq as well as Afghanistan.

Link?

At the time of the visit , Iraq had already been removed from the State Department's list of terrorist countries in 1982; and in the previous month, November, President Reagan had approved National Security Decision Directive 114, on expansion of U.S.-Iraq relations generally. But it was Donald Rumsfeld's trip to Baghdad which opened of the floodgates during 1985-90 for lucrative U.S. weapons exports--some $1.5 billion worth-- including chemical/biological and nuclear weapons equipment and technology, along with critical components for missile delivery systems for all of the above. According to a 1994 GAO Letter Report (GAO/NSIAD-94-98) some 771 weapons export licenses for Iraq were approved during this six year period....not by our European allies, but by the U.S. Department of Commerce.

Oh heaven's everyone and their mother should know that Reagan armed Iraq. My link request was for you to prove that Reagan gave the weapons to Iraq to fight the Russians.

You just got the wrong war. No big smurf.

It was to fight the Iranians. And btw as much as I loved RR and understood the actions of GH, Clinton, GW I sure as well wished in 20/20 hindsight that they had stayed out of ME affairs.

I wish to hell that the bloody League of Nations hadn't formed Iraq willy nilly.

My "I wish to hell" list just keeps growing and growing with each passing day.

I noticed my mistake early on. I just wanted to see how long you would carp about it and what lengths you would go to just to prove it.

please continue

 

[paulitician]

Just to be clear.....we are NOW fighting in Iraq those we ARMED in Syria.....

Most Americans don't realize that. We've been funding & arming these very questionable groups in Syria for a long time. And all because Obama and his cronies became hell-bent on killing Assad. It's just like Bush being so obsessed with getting Hussein. They're actually calling these groups the 'Good Guys' in Syria, but the 'Bad Guys' in Iraq. It's such a miserable failed Foreign Policy. When will we ever learn?

 

[Antares]

Just to be clear.....we are NOW fighting in Iraq those we ARMED in Syria.....

Most Americans don't realize that. We've been funding & arming these very questionable groups in Syria for a long time. And all because Obama and his cronies became hell-bent on killing Assad. It's just like Bush being so obsessed with getting Hussein. They're actually calling these groups the 'Good Guys' in Syria, but the 'Bad Guys' in Iraq. It's such a miserable failed Foreign Policy. When will we ever learn?

Hell at east it took 20 years for us to end up fighting those that Reagan armed.

 

[KNB]

What about Republicans' "red line" bullshit argument? Even if Obama did something right for a change, you people would still cry foul.

Just how many countries total do you Republicans think that the US should invade and occupy indefinitely? How many permanent military bases do we have to set up around the world before we can win the unwinnable war of terror?

 

[The T]

Just to be clear.....we are NOW fighting in Iraq those we ARMED in Syria.....

Most Americans don't realize that. We've been funding & arming these very questionable groups in Syria for a long time. And all because Obama and his cronies became hell-bent on killing Assad. It's just like Bush being so obsessed with getting Hussein. They're actually calling these groups the 'Good Guys' in Syria, but the 'Bad Guys' in Iraq. It's such a miserable failed Foreign Policy. When will we ever learn?

Hell at east it took 20 years for us to end up fighting those that Reagan armed.

World manipulation has never been an exact science based upon human behavior...Never has been, never will be...but at least we DO know EVIL is still around. THAT much is certain.

 

[paulitician]

What about Republicans' "red line" bullshit argument? Even if Obama did something right for a change, you people would still cry foul.

Just how many countries total do you Republicans think that the US should invade and occupy indefinitely? How many permanent military bases do we have to set up around the world before we can win the unwinnable war of terror?

Obama's big blunder was funding & arming these terror-linked groups in Syria. We should have stayed out of it. We're suffering the Blow Back on that now.

And the 'War on Terror' isn't supposed to be winnable. It's supposed to go on forever. That's the point. How else can you get a Patriot Act, NDAA, and massive NSA domestic spying? You have to have a Boogeyman that will never go away. And that's the 'War on Terror.'

 

[paulitician]

So this is who we're supposed to be rushing to support in Iraq now?? Pretty shocking we're even considering getting involved in this awful mess.


Shiite cleric issues threat to US military advisers as Iraq militants take border post

A high-level Shiite cleric in Iraq issued a warning to American military advisers bound for Iraq Friday, hours before Sunni militants captured a crossing on Iraq's border with Syria and Shiite militia members paraded in Baghdad and other cities.

Sky News reports that Nassir al-Saedi, a cleric loyal to the firebrand Muqtada al-Sadr, referred to America as "the occupier" in a sermon during Friday prayers and added "We will be ready for you if you are back."

On Thursday, President Barack Obama announced that the U.S. would send 300 military advisers to provide intelligence and training to the Iraqi army in its fight against the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIS), a group that has already taken wide swathes of territory in Iraq's north and west...

Shiite cleric issues threat to US military advisers as Iraq militants take border post | Fox News

 

[HenryBHough]

Now ya gotta give to Obama recognition for His having finally noticed that His little watercolour box is empty of red for painting lines so He's put it away.

 

[candycorn]

Of course by the same token, a hand grenade is not a WMD until you put it on an airplane and pull the pin. Nobody believes that this is what GWB and company meant however when they had Dr. Rice talk about mushroom clouds...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxhIkzTg14M

The problem here is that there will always be some uncertainty about how quickly Saddam... - Condoleezza Rice at BrainyQuote

They really played to the weak minded.

The weak minded you say. Okey dokey.


Democrat Quotes on Iraq Weapons of Mass Destruction

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Democrat Quotes on WMD

snopes.com: Weapons of Mass Destruction Quotes

You do realize the quotes that came on Bush's watch are garbage...the CIA was parroting the words of a source named "curveball" which admits he lied to the CIA. The CIA never told anyone in Congress that they didn't properly vet their source.

Here is the video that you wont watch but still explains it all.



Those before Bush took office? All valid and you're correct to post them. However Obviously the powers that be correctly decided that no threat to the US existed. They were right.

 

[Vigilante]

what % of the population support the gays you twerp.

The MENTALLY DERANGED, the same scum that gave us the Manchurian muslim!

Yup, the paranoid schizophrenics like Vigilante call deranged those who understand .

Normal defense reaction by idiots in the foolish far right.

Those Dems are winning senate seats because of certain GOP candidates' stupidity about marriage equality and hatred for women.

The Senate should have been Red in 2010, but, no, we nominate the biggest assholes we can find to throw the elections to the Dems.

Rep Frog Boy II, the FAUX Republican, the dribbler who probably has a tattoo of Neville Chamberlain on his arm, has the audacity to complain about the far right and what our CORE VALUES are. Because, to him, other MODERATE PROGRESSIVES, along with all you Soro's funded subversive groups, we on the right stand for morals, ethics, and principles, our countries culture, TRADITIONAL history and values our PRECIOUS FATHERS have taught to us over the few centuries this country has existed... These SCUM, are actually worse than the 2 digit IQ'd subversives that we lock horns in here with everyday....THEY, and their ILK run the current Republican party, and just can't stand the fact that we RIGHT WING, RIGHT THINKING, and PATRIOTIC citizens have made up the base of the Republican party since WW II!!!! These SHEEP have given up their MOST PRECIOUS asset, that of what being American means.

The fucking democrats, socialists, communists, Marxists, Fascist, Nazi's, Anarchists, etc. are all now GROUNDED in the same base, are all funded by the same interconnected groups...one of change, one of immorality, one of unethical behavior, and one of FUCK AMERICA, if I can get MINE, I don't give a shit if the rest of you can get yours!

Tell me what good does it do having a PROGRESSIVE REPUBLICAN, such as a Romney, Cantor, Christie, "Boner", or other such SLUG, that we have now seen and heard over the last decade, that would simply MODIFY, IF POSSIBLE, all the damage done to this country by a black community organizer, who cares NOT what the Constitution says, but FEELS it is HIS POSITION to CHAGE it in order to make it FUNDAMENTALLY FAIR, and adjust the INEQUALITY built into it, to forge a nation that NO LONGER NEEDS or WANTS the American Dream. The RIGHT has few outlets, except on the net, and occasionally a Fox News story, that brings attention to the subversives activities. The Koch Boys should start buying newspapers, TV and radio channels, in order to effect our BRAINWASHED public.

Do we really care if the Dems win Senate seats, when a Republican votes with them 80+% of the time? Do we really have a voice, when the very speaker of the House, WHISPERS his supposed discontent with the Manchurian muslims wishes, and illegal policies? Do we just sit back and watch a president apply Executive Orders, so that a corrupt Attorney General, does NOT have to stand the Congressional Contempt Charges against him, or an IRS head pleads the 5th amendment before a Congressional committee about the ABUSES of the IRS in targeting THE RIGHT WING TEA PARTY Organizations, while letting socialist, and subversive organizations aligned with the current Regime, get exemptions, without any vetting?....Now 6 OTHER IRS officials have LOST their e-mails to the SAME MYSTERIOUS MALADY that struck Lois Lerner's e-mails for 2 solid years?.... Ladies and gentlemen, a clear SUSPENSION OF ALL REALITY is called for on this one! More likely to see an alien saucer land on the White House yard, than the odds of this happening! This is the IRS, the MOST FEARED and MOST CONTENT HEAVY government crime organization in all of our history.

All Rep Frog Boy cares about is that we get a PROGRESSIVE Republican voted into Senate and House seats.... as stated, what difference would that make? Here's a NEWS FLASH FLAKEY, we, the MILLIONS of Patriots, the ones that have put their lives on the line protecting America, their families, their like minded friends, and relatives will NEVER CHANGE our CORE VALUES that have been with us for centuries. Either you assholes start to think RIGHT, or be prepared to become irrelevant in the American political scene. The base is just biting at the bit, to form a THIRD PARTY that will contest all the seats in Congress, and give those subversive FULL POWER to do what they want! We know in the end, the subversive way of governing will fail, and the house of cards will collapse, and we shall be there waiting....waiting....waiting....even if it means we have to do it the old fashioned way, with blood, honor, and a deep love for what we HAD!

You truly DISGUST me, in so many ways!

 

[Vigilante]

what % of the population support the gays you twerp.

The MENTALLY DERANGED, the same scum that gave us the Manchurian muslim!

So you hate gays, Muslims, Manchurians, the mentally ill, whites and blacks. Tell us, who DON'T you hate?

Don't you ever get tired of looking like a complete asshole by trying to put words into someone mouth that were never spoken...or are you truly this vague in thought that you actually believe what you type? If their were pictures in the dictionary to visualize the words there, your picture would represent MENTAL MIDGETS!

 

[Oscar Wao]

What ISIS found was a chemical weapons FACILITY that was BOMBED in the EARLY 90s. Sorry, but the WMDs Bush said existed still aren't there.

Sorry.

 

[Vigilante]

What ISIS found was a chemical weapons FACILITY that was BOMBED in the EARLY 90s. Sorry, but the WMDs Bush said existed still aren't there.

Sorry.

Try to keep up with CURRENT news, your post makes you sound suspiciously stupid!

Sunni extremists in Iraq have occupied what was once Saddam Hussein’s premier chemical-weapons production facility, a complex that still contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department and other U.S. government officials said.

U.S. officials don’t believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated and hard to move, officials said. (now where have we heard this DON'T BELIEVE before?)

Al Qaeda in Iraq Seizes Saddam?s WMD Facility | FrontPage Magazine

 

[rdean]

Just to be clear.....we are NOW fighting in Iraq those we ARMED in Syria.....

Most Americans don't realize that. We've been funding & arming these very questionable groups in Syria for a long time. And all because Obama and his cronies became hell-bent on killing Assad. It's just like Bush being so obsessed with getting Hussein. They're actually calling these groups the 'Good Guys' in Syria, but the 'Bad Guys' in Iraq. It's such a miserable failed Foreign Policy. When will we ever learn?

Hell at east it took 20 years for us to end up fighting those that Reagan armed.

Exactly. And it took years of moving jobs to China and deregulation to bring down the economy. It took years for Republicans to create the massive deficit. Republicans are working on voter suppression now to affect elections years into the future. It took years for more than 40,000 Americans to be killed and maimed in Iraq.

Republicans light a fire and by the time they give it to Obama, it's a forest fire. Then they cut the water lines and complain Obama hasn't done anything to stop the fire.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Like the last time we had to go over this. Chemical weapons have a shelf life. Saddam's chemicals have expired awhile ago..

Also your title is a lie.

You would think if we thought the weapons where dangerous we would have removed them when we were there.

But then you would need a brain to think of this logically and the op doesn't have this

The O/P doesn't realize that, unlike his trained seal friends on here, some of us dig beneath the headline and don't go for the bucket of chum.

 

[Vigilante]

Most Americans don't realize that. We've been funding & arming these very questionable groups in Syria for a long time. And all because Obama and his cronies became hell-bent on killing Assad. It's just like Bush being so obsessed with getting Hussein. They're actually calling these groups the 'Good Guys' in Syria, but the 'Bad Guys' in Iraq. It's such a miserable failed Foreign Policy. When will we ever learn?

Hell at east it took 20 years for us to end up fighting those that Reagan armed.

Exactly. And it took years of moving jobs to China and deregulation to bring down the economy. It took years for Republicans to create the massive deficit. Republicans are working on voter suppression now to affect elections years into the future. It took years for more than 40,000 Americans to be killed and maimed in Iraq.

Republicans light a fire and by the time they give it to Obama, it's a forest fire. Then they cut the water lines and complain Obama hasn't done anything to stop the fire.

Unbelievable that so many of these subversives suck the Manchurians cock so hard, they actually ingest his fucked up thinking, and LIES!

 

[paulitician]

Most Americans don't realize that. We've been funding & arming these very questionable groups in Syria for a long time. And all because Obama and his cronies became hell-bent on killing Assad. It's just like Bush being so obsessed with getting Hussein. They're actually calling these groups the 'Good Guys' in Syria, but the 'Bad Guys' in Iraq. It's such a miserable failed Foreign Policy. When will we ever learn?

Hell at east it took 20 years for us to end up fighting those that Reagan armed.

Exactly. And it took years of moving jobs to China and deregulation to bring down the economy. It took years for Republicans to create the massive deficit. Republicans are working on voter suppression now to affect elections years into the future. It took years for more than 40,000 Americans to be killed and maimed in Iraq.

Republicans light a fire and by the time they give it to Obama, it's a forest fire. Then they cut the water lines and complain Obama hasn't done anything to stop the fire.

Your guy is somewhat responsible for the current chaos in Syria and Iraq. He funded & armed some very questionable Rebel groups there. And now they're wreaking havoc all across Syria & Iraq. His obsession with getting rid of Assad is eerily similar to Bush's obsession with getting rid of Hussein. So while the Iraq War is a Bush blunder, this current chaos is the result of an Obama blunder. We should have stayed out of the Syrian War.

 

[itfitzme]

What about Republicans' "red line" bullshit argument? Even if Obama did something right for a change, you people would still cry foul.

Just how many countries total do you Republicans think that the US should invade and occupy indefinitely? How many permanent military bases do we have to set up around the world before we can win the unwinnable war of terror?

Obama's big blunder was funding & arming these terror-linked groups in Syria. We should have stayed out of it. We're suffering the Blow Back on that now.

And the 'War on Terror' isn't supposed to be winnable. It's supposed to go on forever. That's the point. How else can you get a Patriot Act, NDAA, and massive NSA domestic spying? You have to have a Boogeyman that will never go away. And that's the 'War on Terror.'

Seems that there is plenty of blame to go round.

McCain was happy to arm them.

Funding was authorized by Congress and the CIA apparently provided logistics.