frigidweirdo
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You said the U.S. created radical Muslims. The fact of the matter is, the U.S.did not. The burden of proof lies with you. You have not proven your theory.Nice tirade. But the U.S. Did not create the radical Muslim. Please refrain from foolishness.Wrong. Their religion created themAllah and his prophet create radical muslims, idiot. The others are CILTURAL Muslims because they were born into the that culture.
Not that true.
In 1839 the British Empire, from British India, tried to invade Afghanistan. During the time the British were there, the Afghans learned that the best way of fighting the British was Jihad.
It worked because it allowed them to have more disciplined troops. So, Afghanistan became more radically Muslim than it had been before.
In 1979 the USSR invaded Afghanistan. Islam was used to unite the different groups against the Soviets. The Mujaheddin was born out of this and different groups worked together and made the people more radical.
This leads up to the present day Taliban.
The invasion of Afghanistan by the US in 2001 also helped to radicalize people, but the invasion of Iraq, totally unjustified in the eyes of many, especially Muslims, has led to many, many more people becoming radical.
Take a country like the UK. It has a Muslim population, mostly ethnically Pakistani. Their parents went over to the UK, settled, worked and were no problem. However kids who grew up with the notion that the US was evil and trying to destroy Islam has brought radical Islam to these kids.
You have no argument other than "The U.S. Did not create radical Muslim"
That's not even worth bothering with.
Yes, with what the US did, more Muslims became radical. A lot more.
The US didn't create radical Islam. Radicals exist in all religions. The US didn't even create Islam, surprisingly enough.
However the anger that many Muslims have felt against the US has made a lot more people turn towards radical Islam.
Yes, it requires more than just the US's actions. It does require other radicals to set them on that path.
Also, you want the "burden of proof".
How do I prove something that doesn't come so simply?
I can make a case for this. I can't "prove it", just as you can't prove it's not.
I can point to the estimated number of radicals. But then you can't just go around counting all the radicals with a census. It doesn't work like that. Also, how do you define "radical" etc.
Many problems.
We could look to the number of terrorist actions involving Muslims.
List of Islamist terrorist attacks - Wikipedia
2018 we have 20 terrorist acts, according to this list, with many people dead.
In 2001 it says there are only two terrorist acts. But perhaps they weren't counting then.
Certainly the west has seen a much great problem of Islamic terrorism.
I could point to the number of terrorist organizations. But organizations don't mean number of individuals. Three organizations of 30 people compared to one of 2,000 people, which shows more Radical Islam?
Evidence is there that radical Islam has increase massively since 2003.
A lot of people become radical because they vilify the US, for good cause.
How many? Who knows, but a lot.