Israel attacks civilians

[Jos]

Israel currently occupies 100% of the Palestinian State

 

[georgephillip]

So if i understand correctly, Jordan now occupies 77% of a Palestinian state ?

And Israel occupies the other 23%.
Have you started packing?

 

[Jos]

Methinks there wont be time to pack

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The borders of Palestine were defined by the League of Nations in 1922.

Borders of a country that never existed. Cool!

Israeli propaganda.

Right, because I remember back in, ..........(when was it again?), when Palestine controlled its own borders and created its own currency and had foreign embassies in its capital.
What year was that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

"It is not possible to ascertain the actual number of Jews present at the birth of the state, but the number given is generally 650,000...

"The Anglo-American report of 1945 listed about 1,222,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs in Palestine and 15,000 'others.'".

MidEast Web - Population of Palestine

Arabs, Jews and "others" all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948.

at the birth of the state

The state of Israel. Palestine never was born.

all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948

Too bad the Arabs invaded and lost, the "Palestinians" could have had their own failed state much earlier.

The armistice of the 1948 war was called by UN Security Council resolution. Nobody surrendered. Nobody "lost" that war. Neither Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, nor Palestine lost any land in that war.

Why do you keep saying that the "Arabs" lost when they didn't?

Keep telling yourself the Arabs never lost.
And keep whining about the land they lost.
And keep whining about the mean Jews not giving back the land you never lost in the wars you never lost.
It's amusing.

 

[Wolverine1984]

So if i understand correctly, Jordan now occupies 77% of a Palestinian state ?

And Israel occupies the other 23%.
Have you started packing?

As soon as the Jordanians leave I'll start packing ...

 

[Jos]

Someone may pack for you

 

[Wolverine1984]

Someone may pack for you

LOL!
So you much like the Hamas are advocating war knowing full well that it would mean loss of needless civilian life, but you don't care about civilian life all you care about is your stupid and arrogant ego.
Yes by all means lets launch rockets on Israel's cities and see what happens.
What happens when you lunch rockets on any country is this country would try and stop you, and if it isn't successful it will try harder.

You and the Hamas don't care at all about that, you don't care about the lives lost because of you, you don't care about the property damage,
all you care about is to show everyone how 'macho' you are "Let's show them we can
launch another rocket", And you do and more innocent lives are lost as a result of your conduct.

What are a few dead civilians to you and to the Hamas, you always say :"We love death more than the Zionists love life" and after all those civilians are dying for the 'cause' - indeed your 'cause' not theirs.

Eventually when the fighting is over , you come on the TV and tell everyone to look around them,
look at the dead(who if not for you would be living still),look at the ruined houses (that if not for you would be standing still),and you tell them that Israel is to blame for all this, also in the face of that destruction you tell them something else, you have the audacity to tell them that this –

this is how victory looks like , and that you have brought that victory to them.

Indeed that is a victory for you it doesn't matter how many civilians were killed or houses ruined you would still consider this a victory. In fact if no civilians were killed for you this would mean defeat as you wouldn't be able to go around the world telling stories about Israeli attacks that killed your people
(attacks that you yourself have provoked) asking for donation and support to the poor Palestinians , many of whom are lying in their grave because of your conduct.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Someone may pack for you

LOL!
So you much like the Hamas are advocating war knowing full well that it would mean loss of needless civilian life, but you don't care about civilian life all you care about is your stupid and arrogant ego.
Yes by all means lets launch rockets on Israel's cities and see what happens.
What happens when you lunch rockets on any country is this country would try and stop you, and if it isn't successful it will try harder.

You and the Hamas don't care at all about that, you don't care about the lives lost because of you, you don't care about the property damage,
all you care about is to show everyone how 'macho' you are "Let's show them we can
launch another rocket", And you do and more innocent lives are lost as a result of your conduct.

What are a few dead civilians to you and to the Hamas, you always say :"We love death more than the Zionists love life" and after all those civilians are dying for the 'cause' - indeed your 'cause' not theirs.

Eventually when the fighting is over , you come on the TV and tell everyone to look around them,
look at the dead(who if not for you would be living still),look at the ruined houses (that if not for you would be standing still),and you tell them that Israel is to blame for all this, also in the face of that destruction you tell them something else, you have the audacity to tell them that this –

this is how victory looks like , and that you have brought that victory to them.

Indeed that is a victory for you it doesn't matter how many civilians were killed or houses ruined you would still consider this a victory. In fact if no civilians were killed for you this would mean defeat as you wouldn't be able to go around the world telling stories about Israeli attacks that killed your people
(attacks that you yourself have provoked) asking for donation and support to the poor Palestinians , many of whom are lying in their grave because of your conduct.

So you think killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning?

That is sad, so sad.

 

[Wolverine1984]

Someone may pack for you

LOL!
So you much like the Hamas are advocating war knowing full well that it would mean loss of needless civilian life, but you don't care about civilian life all you care about is your stupid and arrogant ego.
Yes by all means lets launch rockets on Israel's cities and see what happens.
What happens when you lunch rockets on any country is this country would try and stop you, and if it isn't successful it will try harder.

You and the Hamas don't care at all about that, you don't care about the lives lost because of you, you don't care about the property damage,
all you care about is to show everyone how 'macho' you are "Let's show them we can
launch another rocket", And you do and more innocent lives are lost as a result of your conduct.

What are a few dead civilians to you and to the Hamas, you always say :"We love death more than the Zionists love life" and after all those civilians are dying for the 'cause' - indeed your 'cause' not theirs.

Eventually when the fighting is over , you come on the TV and tell everyone to look around them,
look at the dead(who if not for you would be living still),look at the ruined houses (that if not for you would be standing still),and you tell them that Israel is to blame for all this, also in the face of that destruction you tell them something else, you have the audacity to tell them that this –

this is how victory looks like , and that you have brought that victory to them.

Indeed that is a victory for you it doesn't matter how many civilians were killed or houses ruined you would still consider this a victory. In fact if no civilians were killed for you this would mean defeat as you wouldn't be able to go around the world telling stories about Israeli attacks that killed your people
(attacks that you yourself have provoked) asking for donation and support to the poor Palestinians , many of whom are lying in their grave because of your conduct.

So you think killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning?

That is sad, so sad.

It's funny how you trying to put words in my mouth ...
A cheap tactic, showing that you don't have any actual counter claim.

I'm saying that Hamas is a leadership that through it's actions knowingly and willingly brings death and destruction to it's people, and after all is said and done they go on about the victory they achieved for their people when in fact all they did is bring needles suffering.

 

[P F Tinmore]

LOL!
So you much like the Hamas are advocating war knowing full well that it would mean loss of needless civilian life, but you don't care about civilian life all you care about is your stupid and arrogant ego.
Yes by all means lets launch rockets on Israel's cities and see what happens.
What happens when you lunch rockets on any country is this country would try and stop you, and if it isn't successful it will try harder.

You and the Hamas don't care at all about that, you don't care about the lives lost because of you, you don't care about the property damage,
all you care about is to show everyone how 'macho' you are "Let's show them we can
launch another rocket", And you do and more innocent lives are lost as a result of your conduct.

What are a few dead civilians to you and to the Hamas, you always say :"We love death more than the Zionists love life" and after all those civilians are dying for the 'cause' - indeed your 'cause' not theirs.

Eventually when the fighting is over , you come on the TV and tell everyone to look around them,
look at the dead(who if not for you would be living still),look at the ruined houses (that if not for you would be standing still),and you tell them that Israel is to blame for all this, also in the face of that destruction you tell them something else, you have the audacity to tell them that this –

this is how victory looks like , and that you have brought that victory to them.

Indeed that is a victory for you it doesn't matter how many civilians were killed or houses ruined you would still consider this a victory. In fact if no civilians were killed for you this would mean defeat as you wouldn't be able to go around the world telling stories about Israeli attacks that killed your people
(attacks that you yourself have provoked) asking for donation and support to the poor Palestinians , many of whom are lying in their grave because of your conduct.

So you think killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning?

That is sad, so sad.

It's funny how you trying to put words in my mouth ...
A cheap tactic, showing that you don't have any actual counter claim.

I'm saying that Hamas is a leadership that through it's actions knowingly and willingly brings death and destruction to it's people, and after all is said and done they go on about the victory they achieved for their people when in fact all they did is bring needles suffering.

Israel kills all those people and you blame Hamas. Typical propaganda ploy. The Palestinians took a beating but Israel lost that war.

 

[Wolverine1984]

LOL!
So you much like the Hamas are advocating war knowing full well that it would mean loss of needless civilian life, but you don't care about civilian life all you care about is your stupid and arrogant ego.
Yes by all means lets launch rockets on Israel's cities and see what happens.
What happens when you lunch rockets on any country is this country would try and stop you, and if it isn't successful it will try harder.

You and the Hamas don't care at all about that, you don't care about the lives lost because of you, you don't care about the property damage,
all you care about is to show everyone how 'macho' you are "Let's show them we can
launch another rocket", And you do and more innocent lives are lost as a result of your conduct.

What are a few dead civilians to you and to the Hamas, you always say :"We love death more than the Zionists love life" and after all those civilians are dying for the 'cause' - indeed your 'cause' not theirs.

Eventually when the fighting is over , you come on the TV and tell everyone to look around them,
look at the dead(who if not for you would be living still),look at the ruined houses (that if not for you would be standing still),and you tell them that Israel is to blame for all this, also in the face of that destruction you tell them something else, you have the audacity to tell them that this –

this is how victory looks like , and that you have brought that victory to them.

Indeed that is a victory for you it doesn't matter how many civilians were killed or houses ruined you would still consider this a victory. In fact if no civilians were killed for you this would mean defeat as you wouldn't be able to go around the world telling stories about Israeli attacks that killed your people
(attacks that you yourself have provoked) asking for donation and support to the poor Palestinians , many of whom are lying in their grave because of your conduct.

So you think killing a lot of civilians and destroying a lot of civilian infrastructure is winning?

That is sad, so sad.

It's funny how you trying to put words in my mouth ...
A cheap tactic, showing that you don't have any actual counter claim.

I'm saying that Hamas is a leadership that through it's actions knowingly and willingly brings death and destruction to it's people, and after all is said and done they go on about the victory they achieved for their people when in fact all they did is bring needles suffering.

Israel kills all those people and you blame Hamas. Typical propaganda ploy. The Palestinians took a beating but Israel lost that war.

It seems anything you can't argue against you check off as propaganda...

I don't need to blame anyone , it's a clear fact that Palestinian civilians who died in that war died as a direct result of Hamas conduct.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Israel kills all those people and you blame Hamas. Typical propaganda ploy. The Palestinians took a beating but Israel lost that war.

It seems anything you can't argue against you check off as propaganda...

I don't need to blame anyone , it's a clear fact that Palestinian civilians who died in that war died as a direct result of Hamas conduct.

A direct result of Israel's attack. Of the 1400 people killed only a few hundred were militants.

 

[georgephillip]

Doesn't the blame belong with the western imperialists in London and DC who encouraged Zionists to inflict a Jewish state upon a population that was two-thirds non-Jewish in 1948?

Uri Avnery:

"A friend of mine in Warsaw told me about a Polish journalist who visited Israel for the first time. On his return he reported with great excitement: 'You know what I’ve discovered? In Israel, too, there are Jews...'"

"This distinction between Israelis and Jews would not have surprised any of us 50 years ago. Before the foundation of the State of Israel, none of us spoke about a 'Jewish state'.

"In our demonstrations we chanted: 'Free Immigration! Hebrew State!' In almost all media quotations from those days, there appear the two words “Hebrew state”, almost never 'Jewish state'."

The Original Sin of the Israeli State » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

 

[Wolverine1984]

Doesn't the blame belong with the western imperialists in London and DC who encouraged Zionists to inflict a Jewish state upon a population that was two-thirds non-Jewish in 1948?

It does not, this is a simple cause and effect scenario.
If you see a guy walking down the street (no matter what this guy previously did to you) and you decide to punch him. You come close to him punch him in his stomach he then punches you in the face and breaks your nose.

The cause of your broken nose is your desision to punch the guy.

Uri Avnery:

"A friend of mine in Warsaw told me about a Polish journalist who visited Israel for the first time. On his return he reported with great excitement: 'You know what I’ve discovered? In Israel, too, there are Jews...'"

"This distinction between Israelis and Jews would not have surprised any of us 50 years ago. Before the foundation of the State of Israel, none of us spoke about a 'Jewish state'.

"In our demonstrations we chanted: 'Free Immigration! Hebrew State!' In almost all media quotations from those days, there appear the two words “Hebrew state”, almost never 'Jewish state'."

The Original Sin of the Israeli State » Counterpunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names

I don't know if you read the article you have posted but it is basically about how 'orthodox Jews are bad(In Israel)'
In my opinion religion is bad , extreme religion is worst , and orthodox Jews are not an exception to that rule.

You article is talking about the mistake of letting orthodox Jews become what they are today , a bunch of racist good for nothing slobs ...
Well I agree , and I think that most of the Israeli population agrees also.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Israel kills all those people and you blame Hamas. Typical propaganda ploy. The Palestinians took a beating but Israel lost that war.

It seems anything you can't argue against you check off as propaganda...

I don't need to blame anyone , it's a clear fact that Palestinian civilians who died in that war died as a direct result of Hamas conduct.

A direct result of Israel's attack. Of the 1400 people killed only a few hundred were militants.

One thing the "Palestinians" are good at is hiding behind civilians.

 

[Jos]

They ARE civilians.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They ARE civilians.

The terrorists are the civilians?

 

[Jos]

are the civilians terrorists?

 

[P F Tinmore]

They ARE civilians.

The terrorists are the civilians?

Are people defending their country terrorists?

Nelson Mandela was a terrorist too according to the propagandists.