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"It is not possible to ascertain the actual number of Jews present at the birth of the state, but the number given is generally 650,000...In 1948, two-thirds of Palestinians had their country hijacked by Zionists.
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Palestinians? Do you mean Arabs?
Israeli hogwash. When did Israel have any land or borders?
When did the country of "Palestine"?
The borders of Palestine were defined by the League of Nations in 1922.
A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.
State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"It is not possible to ascertain the actual number of Jews present at the birth of the state, but the number given is generally 650,000...In 1948, two-thirds of Palestinians had their country hijacked by Zionists.
1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Palestinians? Do you mean Arabs?
"The Anglo-American report of 1945 listed about 1,222,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs in Palestine and 15,000 'others.'".
MidEast Web - Population of Palestine
Arabs, Jews and "others" all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948.
When did the country of "Palestine"?
The borders of Palestine were defined by the League of Nations in 1922.
A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties. In its Judgment No. 5, The Mavrommatis Palestine Concessions, the Permanent Court of International Justice also decided that Palestine was responsible as the successor state for concessions granted by Ottoman authorities. The Courts of Palestine and Great Britain decided that title to the properties shown on the Ottoman Civil list had been ceded to the government of Palestine as an allied successor state.
State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Borders of a country that never existed. Cool!
"It is not possible to ascertain the actual number of Jews present at the birth of the state, but the number given is generally 650,000...Palestinians? Do you mean Arabs?
"The Anglo-American report of 1945 listed about 1,222,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs in Palestine and 15,000 'others.'".
MidEast Web - Population of Palestine
Arabs, Jews and "others" all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948.
at the birth of the state
The state of Israel. Palestine never was born.
all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948
Too bad the Arabs invaded and lost, the "Palestinians" could have had their own failed state much earlier.
"It is not possible to ascertain the actual number of Jews present at the birth of the state, but the number given is generally 650,000...
"The Anglo-American report of 1945 listed about 1,222,000 Muslim and Christian Arabs in Palestine and 15,000 'others.'".
MidEast Web - Population of Palestine
Arabs, Jews and "others" all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948.
at the birth of the state
The state of Israel. Palestine never was born.
all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948
Too bad the Arabs invaded and lost, the "Palestinians" could have had their own failed state much earlier.
The armistice of the 1948 war was called by UN Security Council resolution. Nobody surrendered. Nobody "lost" that war. Neither Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, nor Palestine lost any land in that war.
Why do you keep saying that the "Arabs" lost when they didn't?
In 1922 they didn't define borders of a sovereign state or a country. They defined a region. They didn't recognize this region as a country nor the Arabs in that region did have a flag,currency or anything making them citizens of what you call a state.The borders of Palestine were defined by the League of Nations in 1922.
at the birth of the state
The state of Israel. Palestine never was born.
all qualified as citizens of Palestine in 1948
Too bad the Arabs invaded and lost, the "Palestinians" could have had their own failed state much earlier.
The armistice of the 1948 war was called by UN Security Council resolution. Nobody surrendered. Nobody "lost" that war. Neither Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, nor Palestine lost any land in that war.
Why do you keep saying that the "Arabs" lost when they didn't?
This is extremely simple , as the objective of the war for Syria,Lebanon,Egypt,Jordan , and the Arab population of the land , was to kick the Jews out. Israels objective was to survive.
At the end of the war , Israel successfully reached it objective , while the Arabs didn't. Thus the Arabs lost.
Palestine is not a country.The armistice of the 1948 war was called by UN Security Council resolution. Nobody surrendered. Nobody "lost" that war. Neither Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, nor Palestine lost any land in that war.
Why do you keep saying that the "Arabs" lost when they didn't?
This is extremely simple , as the objective of the war for Syria,Lebanon,Egypt,Jordan , and the Arab population of the land , was to kick the Jews out. Israels objective was to survive.
At the end of the war , Israel successfully reached it objective , while the Arabs didn't. Thus the Arabs lost.
None of those countries, including Palestine, lost any land. What did they lose?
What did Israel win?
In 1922 they didn't define borders of a sovereign state or a country. They defined a region. They didn't recognize this region as a country nor the Arabs in that region did have a flag,currency or anything making them citizens of what you call a state.The borders of Palestine were defined by the League of Nations in 1922.
What did Israel win?
Palestine is not a country.This is extremely simple , as the objective of the war for Syria,Lebanon,Egypt,Jordan , and the Arab population of the land , was to kick the Jews out. Israels objective was to survive.
At the end of the war , Israel successfully reached it objective , while the Arabs didn't. Thus the Arabs lost.
None of those countries, including Palestine, lost any land. What did they lose?
What did Israel win?
And this thing you always talk about :
In 1922 they didn't define borders of a sovereign state or a country. They defined a region. They didn't recognize this region as a country nor the Arabs in that region did have a flag,currency or anything making them citizens of what you call a state.The borders of Palestine were defined by the League of Nations in 1922.
So your argument about the League of Nations creating a state , is false.
What did Israel win?
It's independence.
As I stated before , Arab armies ,and the local Arabs was trying to prevent Israel from being born, and that was the objective of their attack.
Israel objective was to defend itself ,and survive.
Thus Israel won its Independence when when the war ended.
Palestine is not a country.None of those countries, including Palestine, lost any land. What did they lose?
What did Israel win?
And this thing you always talk about :
In 1922 they didn't define borders of a sovereign state or a country. They defined a region. They didn't recognize this region as a country nor the Arabs in that region did have a flag,currency or anything making them citizens of what you call a state.
So your argument about the League of Nations creating a state , is false.
It's independence.What did Israel win?
As I stated before , Arab armies ,and the local Arabs was trying to prevent Israel from being born, and that was the objective of their attack.
Israel objective was to defend itself ,and survive.
Thus Israel won its Independence when when the war ended.
The League of Nations called it a state. The Palestinians always called it their country and many were killed defending their country. The native peoples are the only ones who have the right to make that determination. The opinion of foreigners is irrelevant.
Israel is a foreign entity inside Palestine. It has no right to determine Palestine's statehood.
The proposition that Palestine is a state may seem strange to some. It
was not so strange to a U.S. district judge who had to decide the issue in
a 1953 case.81
A man named Kletter was born in Palestine in 1911, when
Palestine was under the control of the Ottoman Turks. As a boy, Kletter
accompanied his mother immigrating to the United States, where she
was naturalized in 1928, thereby conferring U.S. nationality not only on
herself but also on Kletter, then age 17. A few years later Kletter went
back to Palestine, where he was naturalized in 1935. But then he returned
to the United States and wanted privileges that would come with
U.S. nationality.82
Kletter claimed that he was still a U.S. national. He argued that Palestine
was not a state, and therefore that his 1935 naturalization there
was invalid. The U.S. district court disagreed. It said that Kletters naturalization
in Palestine was valid, thus he was no longer a U.S. national:
[N]aturalization in any foreign state . . . constitutes expatriation. The
contention of the plaintiff that Palestine, while under the League of Nations
mandate, was not a foreign state within the meaning of the statute
is wholly without merit.83
In support, the court said that the United
States in 1932 had taken the position that Palestine was a state: This the
Executive branch of the Government did in 1932, the court explained,
with respect to the operation of the most favored nations provision in
treaties of commerce.84
The court found a reference to the 1932 episode in the State Departments
digest of international law, where it is mentioned as
indicating that the United States considered that Palestine was a state.85
http://students.law.umich.edu/mjil/uploads/articles/v32n4-quigley.pdf
The proposition that Palestine is a state may seem strange to some. It
was not so strange to a U.S. district judge who had to decide the issue in
a 1953 case.81
A man named Kletter was born in Palestine in 1911, when
Palestine was under the control of the Ottoman Turks. As a boy, Kletter
accompanied his mother immigrating to the United States, where she
was naturalized in 1928, thereby conferring U.S. nationality not only on
herself but also on Kletter, then age 17. A few years later Kletter went
back to Palestine, where he was naturalized in 1935. But then he returned
to the United States and wanted privileges that would come with
U.S. nationality.82
Kletter claimed that he was still a U.S. national. He argued that Palestine
was not a state, and therefore that his 1935 naturalization there
was invalid. The U.S. district court disagreed. It said that Kletters naturalization
in Palestine was valid, thus he was no longer a U.S. national:
[N]aturalization in any foreign state . . . constitutes expatriation. The
contention of the plaintiff that Palestine, while under the League of Nations
mandate, was not a foreign state within the meaning of the statute
is wholly without merit.83
In support, the court said that the United
States in 1932 had taken the position that Palestine was a state: This the
Executive branch of the Government did in 1932, the court explained,
with respect to the operation of the most favored nations provision in
treaties of commerce.84
The court found a reference to the 1932 episode in the State Departments
digest of international law, where it is mentioned as
indicating that the United States considered that Palestine was a state.85
http://students.law.umich.edu/mjil/uploads/articles/v32n4-quigley.pdf
So it would seem that US Judges can decide if something is a state or no...
What rubbish.
The proposition that Palestine is a state may seem strange to some. It
was not so strange to a U.S. district judge who had to decide the issue in
a 1953 case.81
A man named Kletter was born in Palestine in 1911, when
Palestine was under the control of the Ottoman Turks. As a boy, Kletter
accompanied his mother immigrating to the United States, where she
was naturalized in 1928, thereby conferring U.S. nationality not only on
herself but also on Kletter, then age 17. A few years later Kletter went
back to Palestine, where he was naturalized in 1935. But then he returned
to the United States and wanted privileges that would come with
U.S. nationality.82
Kletter claimed that he was still a U.S. national. He argued that Palestine
was not a state, and therefore that his 1935 naturalization there
was invalid. The U.S. district court disagreed. It said that Kletters naturalization
in Palestine was valid, thus he was no longer a U.S. national:
[N]aturalization in any foreign state . . . constitutes expatriation. The
contention of the plaintiff that Palestine, while under the League of Nations
mandate, was not a foreign state within the meaning of the statute
is wholly without merit.83
In support, the court said that the United
States in 1932 had taken the position that Palestine was a state: This the
Executive branch of the Government did in 1932, the court explained,
with respect to the operation of the most favored nations provision in
treaties of commerce.84
The court found a reference to the 1932 episode in the State Departments
digest of international law, where it is mentioned as
indicating that the United States considered that Palestine was a state.85
http://students.law.umich.edu/mjil/uploads/articles/v32n4-quigley.pdf
So it would seem that US Judges can decide if something is a state or no...
What rubbish.
So if i understand correctly, Jordan now occupies 77% of a Palestinian state ?
So if i understand correctly, Jordan now occupies 77% of a Palestinian state ?
Jordan is a separate state.
So if i understand correctly, Jordan now occupies 77% of a Palestinian state ?
Jordan is a separate state.
This is a map of the British mandate of Palestine (1923)
As you clearly see there is a big chunk of land east to the Jordan river, we currently know that this is Jordan , but it seems it is on Palestinian mandate land.
http:/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/BritishMandatePalestine1920.png
Jordan is a separate state.
This is a map of the British mandate of Palestine (1923)
As you clearly see there is a big chunk of land east to the Jordan river, we currently know that this is Jordan , but it seems it is on Palestinian mandate land.
It says 1920 not 1923. Are you trying to pull a fast one?http:/upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/BritishMandatePalestine1920.png
