Israel attacks civilians

[Indofred]

Oh please. Iran is a third world nation. They're still flying 1960's vintage F-5 aircraft and a similar model they reverse engineered.

I'm not talking about Iran.

We attack them, it will put us in a direct military confrontation with Russia.

Can't see it.
The Russians are in a mess and could hardly afford another war.
However, China is deeply involved in Iranian oil and the US does not want to upset China.
Any threat to Chinese oil supplied will be pretty sure to bring a war the US would seriously regret.
The US military got it's arse kicked in a proxy war with China, I direct conflict would see US cities in flames.
Not to say China would get away without being in a mess but the US population would see what war really is and it hasn't since 1812.

I think that's the big problem with US politics. You guys support wars because most have no clue what it is to see a city in flames. The news is just another TV program and the the horror is controlled with a red button.
A serious war would see the red button being pressed by someone with New York and Washington in his sights.

The White house ended up in flames when the US invaded Canada all those years ago.
Do you really want that again?

 

[Indofred]

Israel shoots dead nine-year-old boy - 30 Jul 08 - YouTube

I must object. That boy is clearly a potential suicide bomber.
So is this one but the brave Israeli soldiers gave him a kicking to put him off blowing himself up.

I love the IDF. So brave - NOT

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmVD3EZGgOs]Israeli police kick at a Palestinian child like a rabid dog - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Indofred]

They were planting a roadside bomb. .

You're making a mistake.
The general public don't see what the military see.
I was in a London command centre (installing some gear) a few years ago. The kit was amazing by anyone's standards.
I could see what brand of cigarettes a man was smoking from a live satellite feed.

That's not to support foreign invading forces (Do the US public realise the US is the aggressor?), but they do know who is doing what.

Usually....
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMnyVioLJbs]American A-10s attacking British convoy - Part 1 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Billo_Really]

Can't see it.
The Russians are in a mess and could hardly afford another war.
However, China is deeply involved in Iranian oil and the US does not want to upset China.
Any threat to Chinese oil supplied will be pretty sure to bring a war the US would seriously regret.
The US military got it's arse kicked in a proxy war with China, I direct conflict would see US cities in flames.
Not to say China would get away without being in a mess but the US population would see what war really is and it hasn't since 1812.

Iran is a Russian ally. They have a lot of trade agreements in place that would be disrupted by a war. And besides, they've already warned us once.

As for China, it doesn't really matter. Russia and China have a defense pact. If we get one, we got both!

I think that's the big problem with US politics. You guys support wars because most have no clue what it is to see a city in flames. The news is just another TV program and the the horror is controlled with a red button.
A serious war would see the red button being pressed by someone with New York and Washington in his sights.

The White house ended up in flames when the US invaded Canada all those years ago.
Do you really want that again?

No I don't. I would like to argue against your comments, but I got nothing beyond a desire to do so. I don't like it, but I tend to agree with you on this one.

 

[Billo_Really]

You're making a mistake.
The general public don't see what the military see.
I was in a London command centre (installing some gear) a few years ago. The kit was amazing by anyone's standards.
I could see what brand of cigarettes a man was smoking from a live satellite feed.

That's not to support foreign invading forces (Do the US public realise the US is the aggressor?), but they do know who is doing what.

Usually....
American A-10s attacking British convoy - Part 1 - YouTube

That's a satellite which can hold a lot more instrumentation than an Apache or Warthog. As an occupational force, we are obligated to take additional measures to verify our targets are military in nature.

It's quite ironic, that your video showed that even on a clear day, we got it wrong!

 

[Billo_Really]

I do have to take a step back, so to speak, and agree with the loindude that the helicopter pilot singing “American Pie” really is inappropriate. I don’t think that singing a Don Mclean song really does justice to the situation at hand.

I would have suggested… oh, I don’t know… maybe Ted Nugent’s Wango Tango as something to really get that pilot rockin’ and rollin’.

Thanks a lot, Maserati mouth, I used to like Wango Tango.

 

[P F Tinmore]

AL-KHALIL, (PIC)-- Israeli occupation forces (IOF) demolished four water wells in Al-Khalil on Tuesday and closed entrance to Fawar refugee camp.

The Israeli occupation authorities recently escalated demolition of water wells in various West Bank areas.

Meanwhile, the IOF soldiers closed the iron gate entrance to Fawar refugee camp also in Al-Khalil for a few hours.

Local sources said that IOF soldiers stormed five villages in the vicinity of Al-Khalil, and searched many houses.

The sources said that Jewish settlers attacked the northern suburbs of Al-Khalil and threw stones at Palestinian cars and houses.

IOF demolishes water wells, closes refugee camp

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They were planting a roadside bomb.
You think they get to decide on their own to fire a missile?
You're dumber than I thought.

They radio command and tell them what they're seeing. Then they request permission to engage. If permission is granted, they fire away.

The problem is, we're seeing the same thing they're seeing and I'm saying, there's no fucking way you can tell they're planting a bomb in that picture. The only reason you can make out their even people, is that one crosses the street.





Now, let's say you're right and they were planting a bomb. So fucking what! It's their god-damn country and we're there illegally. It's none of our fucking business what people do in their own country.

Now, let's say you're right and they were planting a bomb. So fucking what!

So they won't be doing that anymore.

 

[Jos]

The middle of town is not the best place to plant a road side bomb

 

[P F Tinmore]

The middle of town is not the best place to plant a road side bomb

Yeah, but propagandists will believe anything even if it makes no sense.

 

[Hossfly]

The middle of town is not the best place to plant a road side bomb

There is no good place to plant a bomb but the unwashed place bombs where they can kill the most people, even their own.

 

[Jos]

The middle of town is not the best place to plant a road side bomb

There is no good place to plant a bomb but the unwashed place bombs where they can kill the most people, even their own.

I disagree, A good place to plant an IED is in an area where you have a clear line of fire to engage the survivors with Small arms

 

[Hollie]

The middle of town is not the best place to plant a road side bomb

There is no good place to plant a bomb but the unwashed place bombs where they can kill the most people, even their own.

I disagree, A good place to plant an IED is in an area where you have a clear line of fire to engage the survivors with Small arms

The bomb planters being converted to nothing more than charred marks on the pavement makes your comment superfluous.

 

[Hossfly]

Target of opportunity. What do you think a gunship pilot gets paid for?
And how 'bout that Hellfire missle? Ain't she a beaut?

There's something seriously wrong with people who are indifferent to someone getting blown away for washing his car.

Washing his car? With a pick and shovel? Good one!!

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The middle of town is not the best place to plant a road side bomb

Especially for those 2 guys.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Target of opportunity. What do you think a gunship pilot gets paid for?
And how 'bout that Hellfire missle? Ain't she a beaut?

There's something seriously wrong with people who are indifferent to someone getting blown away for washing his car.

Washing his car? With a pick and shovel? Good one!!

He should have bought a Sham-Wow!

 

[P F Tinmore]

GAZA, (PIC)-- Three Palestinian citizens were wounded on Thursday morning in an Israeli incursion east of Shujaiah suburb in Gaza city, medical sources said.

Dr. Ashraf Al-Qudra, the health ministry’s spokesman, said that Israeli army tanks fired a number of shells wounding the three citizens, describing their injuries as serious to moderate.

Local sources said that Israeli occupation soldiers mounting a number of armored vehicles had advanced into the same targeted area and bulldozed land amidst indiscriminate firing.

The sources said that an Israeli artillery shell fired at a civilian car in Shujaiah caused the casualties.

Three citizens wounded in IOF shelling east of Gaza

 

[P F Tinmore]

GAZA, (PIC)-- Israeli occupation forces (IOF) killed a Palestinian man near the Erez crossing to the north of the Gaza Strip on Friday night.

Hebrew press reported that the IOF soldiers fired at a young man when he approached the border fence near the crossing and killed him.

Dr. Ashraf Al-Qudra, the health ministry’s spokesman, told Quds Press that the IOF informed the ministry of the presence of a martyr near the fence.

He said that the ministry told the Red Cross in order to arrange for collecting the body, adding that contacts with the IOF were severed before the ambulance teams could find it.

IOF soldiers kill Palestinian near Erez crossing

 

[Indofred]

Now, let's say you're right and they were planting a bomb. So fucking what!

So they won't be doing that anymore.

US troops come back in body bags.

If I said "So what, they won't be fighting illegal wars anymore", would that be an acceptable statement?

Best to turn your brain on before typing so you don't post a load of bollocks

 

[P F Tinmore]

NABLUS, (PIC)-- Israeli troops and civil servants stormed Tuesday morning Qasra village south of Nablus city and uprooted and confiscated all olive trees from a Palestinian land.

Head of Qasra municipal council Abdul-Azim Wadi told Quds Press that employees from the Israeli district of planning and building escorted by a large number of troops uprooted and confiscated about 30 olive trees from a plantation owned by a Palestinian citizen named Shahadeh Odeh.

Israeli municipal employees uproot olive trees in Qasra village