Israel hastens the return of hostages by killing the chief negotiator of Hamas

[Roudy]

At least I know what a Jew is, dingabt.

Tell us. Where are Jews from. Where is there a central homeland. What was it called. Where was the faith of Judaism formed. Where was their temple. What significance does Jerusalem have for the Jewish people and their faith.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Palestinians didn't control Gaza? Sure... (eye roll)

They didn't control who can come and go, they didn't control what goods and services can be brought in, they didn't control the electricity supply, they didn't control fuel imports, they didn't control what medicines and medical equipment came in, they didn't control access by the IDF.

But other than that, yes, they had full control of Gaza.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Tell us.

No, I'd rather you continued to be ignorant and making a dingabt out of yourself every time you post.

 

[Mac-7]

The Palestinians didn't control Gaza? Sure... (eye roll)

The Pals had a state of their own in Gaza till they used it as a staging ground for attacks on Israel

Now its occupied territory again

 

[Mac-7]

They didn't control who can come and go, they didn't control what goods and services can be brought in, they didn't control the electricity supply, they didn't control fuel imports, they didn't control what medicines and medical equipment came in, they didn't control access by the IDF.

But other than that, yes, they had full control of Gaza.

Hamas should have used the international welfare money it was given to build an electric generator facility instead of spending it on tunnels and rockets

 

[Roudy]

No, I'd rather you continued to be ignorant and making a dingabt out of yourself every time you post.

Entertain us with your ignorance and stupidity:
Where are Jews from. Where is their ancestral homeland. What was it called. Where was the faith of Judaism formed. Where was their first temple. What significance does Jerusalem have for the Jewish people and their faith.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Hamas should have used the international welfare money it was given to build electric generator facility instead of spending it on tunnels and rockets

Why? every year or so the Israelis would routinely force entry into Gaza and murder people and blow up infratsructure. Just last week they destroyed a huge water pumping station supplying water to thousands of people. People in Gaza were being shot, bombed and crushed for years, years before Oct 7th, it's been the routine for years.

The Israelis have been supplying illicit drugs into Gaza for years, creating addicts, destroying the society, that's all Israel does, it destroys.

It's time for Israel to be bombed, it's time for Tel-Aviv to be hit, for Nazinyahu to be assassinated in his home, for Smotrich to be decapitated by a missile as he drives around his Jew supremacist illegal settlement.

 

[Grau]

Comparing French Resistance to Hamas is insulting. You sure do enjoy trolling me on a serious topic.

Like most people trying to defend the indefensible, your evasions are simply confirmation that no brutally occupied people in history have meekly accepted being preyed upon by violent, foreign occupiers who continue to expand and kill their unfortunate victims.

The fact that Hamas is not the problem is proven by murderous Zionist aggression against West Bank Palestinians who had nothing to do with 7 October 2023. (1)

At the same time, Israel's right wing "Settler" types murder neighboring Palestinians not only with impunity but with the aid of the IDF.(2)

Briefly put, the Palestinians just wanted to be left alone but the Nazi trained and armed Zionist terrorist gangs(3) who invaded Palestine, fought the British, destroyed over 500 Palestinian villages and towns made that impossible.

No amount of Palestinian land was / is enough for foreign Zionist invaders determined to fulfill a "Greater Israel" delusion. (aka Lebensraum)

Loyal and ethical Americans must stand up to the influential Zionist lobbies that manage to extort $ Trillions to fund a monstrous Gaza genocide.


(1). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"

Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Settlers Who Are Killing West Bank Palestinians

Or risk losing any moral authority in this war.

slate.com

3, November 2023

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas." CONTINUED



(2). "Lines Increasingly Blurred Between Soldiers and Settlers in the West Bank

" Israeli attacks on Palestinians there have surged since the Israel-Hamas war began."

Lines Increasingly Blurred Between Soldiers and Settlers in the West Bank

Israeli attacks on Palestinians there have surged since the Israel-Hamas war began.

foreignpolicy.com

EXCERPT "The violence itself is not new, but two things are worth watching. As the attacks spread, there’s growing evidence that soldiers and settlers are working hand in hand. And there are signs that settlers are increasingly worried about a political shift after the war in Gaza—and trying to change the West Bank landscape while they can."
CONTINUED



(2). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
Zionism and the Third Reich

EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19

Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21

In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED

19. Lucy Dawidowicz, The War Against the Jews, 1933-1945 (New York: Bantam, pb., 1976), pp. 253-254.; Max Nussbaum, "Zionism Under Hitler," Congress Weekly (New York: American Jewish Congress), Sept. 11, 1942.; F. Nicosia, The Third Reich (1985), pp. 58-60, 217.; Edwin Black, The Transfer Agreement (1984), p. 175.

20. H. Höhne, The Order of the Death's Head (Ballantine, pb., 1984), pp. 380-382.; K. Schleunes, Twisted Road (1970, 1990), p. 226.; Secret internal SS intelligence report about F. Polkes, June 17, 1937, in: John Mendelsohn, ed., The Holocaust (New York: Garland, 1982), vol. 5, pp. 62-64.

21. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), pp. 63-64, 105, 219-220.

22. F. Nicosia, Third Reich (1985), p. 160.

 

[Roudy]

Why? every year or so the Israelis would routinely force entry into Gaza and murder people and blow up infratsructure. Just last week they destroyed a huge water pumping station supplying water to thousands of people. People in Gaza were being shot, bombed and crushed for years, years before Oct 7th, it's been the routine for years.

The Israelis have been supplying illicit drugs into Gaza for years, creating addicts, destroying the society, that's all Israel does, it destroys.

It's time for Israel to be bombed, it's time for Tel-Aviv to be hit, for Nazinyahu to be assassinated in his home, for Smotrich to be decapitated by a missile as he drives around his Jew supremacist illegal settlement.

Or perhaps Hamas subhuman terrorist animals routinely murder innocent Israelis and Israel is just responding?

 

[Shusha]

I'm exploring with you (and many of the other cowardly connivers here) the question of when a people are justified in fighting foreigners who invade and steal their land...

Yes. A State and the people of that State absolutely have a right to fight off foreign invaders and occupiers in their territory. It is justified self-defense. A State and the people of that State ALSO have the right to choose peace and economic prosperity as an alternative to war.

The Jewish people (as a collective) are not foreign invaders but indigenous peoples with an inherent and inviolable right to self-determination in their historical homeland. The UN has confirmed that inherent and inviolable right for the Jewish people.

It is a radical idea to deny or prevent the Jewish people from exercising that right.

 

[Roudy]

Why? every year or so the Israelis would routinely force entry into Gaza and murder people and blow up infratsructure. Just last week they destroyed a huge water pumping station supplying water to thousands of people. People in Gaza were being shot, bombed and crushed for years, years before Oct 7th, it's been the routine for years.

The Israelis have been supplying illicit drugs into Gaza for years, creating addicts, destroying the society, that's all Israel does, it destroys.

It's time for Israel to be bombed, it's time for Tel-Aviv to be hit, for Nazinyahu to be assassinated in his home, for Smotrich to be decapitated by a missile as he drives around his Jew supremacist illegal settlement.

Where are Jews from.
Where is there a central homeland.
What was it called.
Where was the faith of Judaism formed.
Where was their temple.
What significance does Jerusalem have for the Jewish people and their faith. How many times is it mentioned in the Jewish bible.
Where do Jews face during prayer.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Where are Jews from. Where is their ancestral homeland.

Where is their ancestral homeland? Depends, Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe that's evident from DNA tests. Many of the Jews in Israel are migrants from either Europe or nearby Arab speaking countries, these foreigners migrated there during the 1930s and 1940s and later.

What was it called.

Kingdom of Judah, it was after the return from exile in Babylon that the term "Jew" began to get used much more, see the Old Testament and Josephus' Antiquity of the Jews.

Where was the faith of Judaism formed.

Depends who you ask.

Where was their first temple. What significance does Jerusalem have for the Jewish people and their faith.

Again, it depends on who you ask, some Jews admire Zionism and some Jews (those who understand their history) despise Zionism as idolatry, nationalism.

 

[Mac-7]

Why? every year or so the Israelis would routinely force entry into Gaza and murder people and blow up infratsructure. Just last week they destroyed a huge water pumping station supplying water to thousands of people. People in Gaza were being shot, bombed and crushed for years, years before Oct 7th, it's been the routine for years.

The Israelis have been supplying illicit drugs into Gaza for years, creating addicts, destroying the society, that's all Israel does, it destroys.

It's time for Israel to be bombed, it's time for Tel-Aviv to be hit, for Nazinyahu to be assassinated in his home, for Smotrich to be decapitated by a missile as he drives around his Jew supremacist illegal settlement.

You mean every two years Hamas commits an act of war against Israel and the IDF retaliates

What an odd make believe world you live in

 

[Roudy]

Where is their ancestral homeland? Depends, Ashkenazi Jews are from Europe that's evident from DNA tests. Many of the Jews in Israel are migrants from either Europe or nearby Arab speaking countries, these foreigners migrated there during the 1930s and 1940s and later.


Kingdom of Judah, it was after the return from exile in Babylon that the term "Jew" began to get used much more, see the Old Testament and Josephus' History of the Jews.

Depends who you ask.

Again, it depends on who you ask, some Jews admire Zionism and some Jews (those who understand their history) despise Zionism as idolatry, nationalism.

You think Ashkenazi Jews became Jews in Europe, and don’t know where Judaism formed? Ha ha ha. And you don’t know where the first temple of Judaism was located. Wow, you’re stupider and even more ignorant than I thought.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You think Ashkenazi Jews became Jews in Europe, and don’t know where Judaism formed? Ha ha ha. And you don’t know where the first temple of Judaism was located. Wow, you’re stupider and even more ignorant than I thought.

How do you know if a person is a Jew or not? anyone? any takers?

How many of the 2.3 million people being massacred in Gaza, are Jews who don't know they're Jews? there must be some, stands to reason.

So Jews are fine killing Jews, they don't give a shit who they kill they never did, that's why the place must be wiped off the map, there is nothing good about it, only the most deranged entitled arrogant racists actually enjoy living there, there's very little about Israel that's Jewish, most of what I see is plain old barbarism, like South Africa.

 

[Man With A Plan]

They didn't control who can come and go, they didn't control what goods and services can be brought in, they didn't control the electricity supply, they didn't control fuel imports, they didn't control what medicines and medical equipment came in, they didn't control access by the IDF.

But other than that, yes, they had full control of Gaza.

How many times did Israel give the Palestinians the opportunity to peacefully coexist with Israel and how many times did the Palestinians respond to that with new attacks? The sad thing about the Palestinians is that THEY are responsible for their own reality! They live in a bombed out shell of a country because they spent the money given to them by the international community to buy weapons and dig terror tunnels.

 

[TruthNotBS]

The Palestinians didn't control Gaza? Sure... (eye roll)

How do you figure that Hamas or any Palestinian "controls Gaza", when Israel encircles Gaza, controlling everything that goes in and out of Gaza? The Israelis were even rationing how much food could enter Gaza, and practically everything was rationed or prohibited. That's one of the reasons the Palestinians developed a tunnel network, going into Egypt. In order to import consumable goods, not just weapons, as Zionists disingenuously assert. The people of Gaza weren't allowed to have an airport, a seaport, or adequate control over utility services and telecom, all of that is mostly, ultimately, under the control of the Israelis.

According to international law, the Israelis are illegally occupying the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza. It's an illegal occupation.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How do you figure that Hamas or any Palestinian "controls Gaza", when Israel encircles Gaza, controlling everything that goes in and out of Gaza?

Well there is the dumbest question I have seen all day.

The democratically elected Hamas controls the resources in Gaza. One of their favorite things to do is to steal its infrastructure and the foreign aid that arrives.

 

[TruthNotBS]

How many times did Israel give the Palestinians the opportunity to peacefully coexist with Israel and how many times did the Palestinians respond to that with new attacks? The sad thing about the Palestinians is that THEY are responsible for their own reality! They live in a bombed out shell of a country because they spent the money given to them by the international community to buy weapons and dig terror tunnels.

Never, the Zionist Jews have been massacring Palestinians from the very beginning, even before the Arabs attacked the Israelis in 1948:

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Why should've 1.2 million Palestinians allow 600 thousand European, Ashkenazi Jews, take 54% of Palestine? There were 700 thousand Palestinians, living in approximately 500 villages in the territory given to the European Jews. How the hell are these Zionist Jews going to establish a Jewish ethnostate in a territory inhabited mostly by non-Jewish Palestinians? Who came up with this ingenious idea? Who would be so stupid to think that these European Jews or any Jews can just show up and create a Jewish ethnostate, even though most people inhabiting that land are non-Jewish? The land was called Palestine since the 2nd century AD, hence the people there are Palestinians.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Well there is the dumbest question I have seen all day.

The democratically elected Hamas controls the resources in Gaza. One of their favorite things to do is to steal its infrastructure and the foreign aid that arrives.

Bullshit, the pipes were Israeli pipes that weren't part of the Gazan water system, but of the previous Jewish settlements which had their own water system. That is already well established by plenty of evidence. Your point however is moot, because like I said, Israel encircles Gaza, controlling everything that enters and leaves the city. It controls airspace, and the sea, imposing strict restrictions on travel, fishing..etc.. Gaza was far from being independent. The same applies to the Palestinians in the West Bank and East Jerusalem. Israel is an apartheid state, but it's going to come to an end soon regardless of the Evangelical hope for armageddon and Jesus coming back soon. Your eschatology sucks. You're living in Lalaland.