Israel MUST stop recieving all USA funds

[surada]

Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews

Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
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Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?

Hebron 1928.

We talk about a whole new level of ethnic cleansing.

Again, you prove us your lack of knowledge about thw history of the land, over and over. Again and again

Hebron was completely Arab util 1500 AD.. There was NO conflict for 500 years and then came European Zionism.. Read up on the history of Hebron.. Several excellent links have already been posted on this thread. The current population is about 230,000 Arabs and 8,000 Jews.

The population of Palestine doubled with European refugees during the British Mandate era, from 670,000 in 1922 to over 1.2 million in 1948.

The Arab-islamic occupation lasted between 637' to 1500.

Hebron was never "Arabic" before 637'
You really are that dumb, right? Imagine thinking world history begins since the birth of Islam and its brutal, rapid colonization.


You, and your kind, always love colonization. But only when brown-black people do that

Arabs have lived in Palestine for thousands of years.. Long before Islam. Abraham and Moses had Arab wives. Ezra talks about Arabs in Jerusalem when they returned fro Babylon.. Sargon 2 settled 4 Arab tribes in Samaria in 730 BC.

Brown? Arab is not a race.. Most of them are light olive like Arab Jews..They didn't immigrate from Europe or Poland or Russia.

Iraqis - Not arabs. Just because the Arabs have taken over Mesopothemia in their colonization - does not mean the Mesopothemians are Arabs.

Anyhow - the Samartian tribes - were putten in there in an act of colonization. One heck of a proof to show us how Arabs are native to Judeah and Samaria.

Yes, Arabs passed through the Levant. Theu were Traders and merchants. Like cushites, Egyptians, Pheonecians, Assyrians, Arabs also were trading.

- Mizrahi Jews are not "Arab''. They are Levantines who lived in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon ( smaller amount - in Yemen )

Why are there no 'Arab' Jews? Simple. Muhamad slayed them all. Anyhow, Mizrahi Jews are at my skin tone, and not in the Brown-black color of the Arabians.

( they did not immigrate from Poland or Russia - they immigrated from Arabia and colonized the Natives here )


It is so funny to see Europeans like yourself willing to excuse colonization, brutal as the Arabic - as long as the colobizers are Arabs. Funny.

Arabs have been all over Palestine, Mesopotamia and the Levant for thousands of years.. Long before Islam. Consider that Abraham and Moses both had Arab wives. The big Arab migrations from the Arabian Peninsula happened in waves around 10,000 BC.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.

the above is bull-shit!!​

The Israeli–Palestinian conflict in Hebron refers to an ongoing conflict between Palestinians and Jewish settlers in the West Bank city of Hebron in the context of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Hebron has a Palestinian majority, consisting of an estimated 208,750 citizens and a small Jewish minority, variously numbered between 500 and 800. The H1 sector of Hebron, home to around 170,000 Palestinians, is governed by the Palestinian Authority. H2, which was inhabited by around 30,000 Palestinians is under Israeli military control with an entire brigade in place to protect some 800 Jewish residents living in the old Jewish quarter. As of 2015, Israel has declared that a number of special areas of Old City of Hebron constitute a closed military zone. Palestinians shops have been forced to close; despite protests Palestinian women are reportedly frisked by men, and residents, who are subjected every day to repeated body searches, must register to obtain special permits to navigate through the 18 military checkpoints Israel has set up in the city center.
Israeli–Palestinian conflict in Hebron - Wikipedia

Israel is set to approve construction of settler homes in a flashpoint area of the West Bank city of Hebron for the first time since 2002, the anti-occupation group Peace Now said Tuesday.

Hebron is considered a West Bank powder-keg where around 800 Jewish settlers live under hefty Israeli army security, surrounded by around 200,000 Palestinians.

Israel to okay permits for 31 settler homes in Hebron -- watchdog | The Times of Israel

800 Jewish settlers mean they are not from Hebron but invaders using the Zionist military to force their occupation.
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800 Jewish settlers mean they are not from Hebron but invaders using the Zionist military to force their occupation.

But..........

entire brigade in place to protect some 800 Jewish residents living in the old Jewish quarter.

 

[watchingfromafar]

Why? Because there is no chance they would know this structure was built by the King Of Judeah ( Genetically, he was not a Jew. He was a vassal king from Rome, forced on us )

The King of Judeah was Herod the Great , a Roman puppet. He ordered the massacre of hundreds of people

Herod I (/ˈhɛrəd/; Hebrew: הוֹרְדוֹס‎, Modern: Hōrdōs, Tiberian: Hōrəḏōs; Greek: Ἡρῴδης Hērǭdēs; c. 72 – 4 or 1 BCE), also known as Herod the Great, was a Roman client king of Judea, referred to as the Herodian kingdom. The history of his legacy has polarized opinion, as he is known for his colossal building projects throughout Judea, including his renovation of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the expansion of the Temple Mount towards its north, the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, the construction of the port at Caesarea Maritima, the fortress at Masada, and Herodium.

Herod also appears in the Christian Gospel of Matthew as the ruler of Judea who orders the Massacre of the Innocents at the time of the birth of Jesus, Despite his successes, including singlehandedly forging a new aristocracy from practically nothing, he has still garnered criticism from various historians.
Herod the Great - Wikipedia

This discussion is getting us nowhere. The past is the past and there is nothing you or I can do to change it.

Today in 2021 AD the Zionists are committing murder and land theft just as the have been doing in the past.

If you want to help these Zionist’s, then tell Bibi to:

Confess the Zionists sins of the past
Welcome all who enter Israel as friends, Arabs and all the rest
Ask the Lord for forgiveness​

Maybe, just maybe the Lord will forgive them

If it were up to me; I would say NO, they must be punished for their wanton ungodly deeds

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[watchingfromafar]

And I am all for Israel stop getting US aid.

As a friend, I must tell you, you are now on the Zionist watch list.

Soon you will be receiving hate mail.
The person mowing your lawn will not return.
Your 10% discount at your local grocery store has been revoked.

Having said that, I wish you and yours a great day and beyond

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[watchingfromafar]

Israel ask for the aid and is a great ally of the United States.

great ally of the United States ???????????
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship.[3] At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
The Zionist murdering goes on and on and on.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers.

They confirmed that? You have a government source backing your claim?

How many of the hijackers were in New Jersey?

 

[watchingfromafar]

They confirmed that? You have a government source backing your claim?

No my sweet plump dumpling; it is you who needs to prove me wrong

How many of the hijackers were in New Jersey?

Oh mighty ONE, it is you who needs to tell us how many were there.
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[Toddsterpatriot]

They confirmed that? You have a government source backing your claim?

No my sweet plump dumpling; it is you who needs to prove me wrong

How many of the hijackers were in New Jersey?

Oh mighty ONE, it is you who needs to tell us how many were there.
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No my sweet plump dumpling; it is you who needs to prove me wrong

How can I prove anything about the source you didn't provide?

Oh mighty ONE, it is you who needs to tell us how many were there.

You know the students in New Jersey were watching the terrorists, but you don't know how many, if any at all, were in New Jersey? DURR.

 

[watchingfromafar]

How many of the hijackers were in New Jersey?

Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

ByABC News
January 5, 2006, 11:37 PM

June 21, 2002 -- Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.

She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.

Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.

The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.

The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.

The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.

The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.

Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.

The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.

Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."

But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.

The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.

According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence.

Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? - ABC News (go.com)
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[Toddsterpatriot]

How many of the hijackers were in New Jersey?

Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

ByABC News
January 5, 2006, 11:37 PM

June 21, 2002 -- Millions saw the horrific images of the World Trade Center attacks, and those who saw them won't forget them. But a New Jersey homemaker saw something that morning that prompted an investigation into five young Israelis and their possible connection to Israeli intelligence.

She grabbed her binoculars and watched the destruction unfolding in lower Manhattan. But as she watched the disaster, something else caught her eye.

Maria says she saw three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. "They seemed to be taking a movie," Maria said.

The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.

The plate number was traced to a van owned by a company called Urban Moving. Around 4 p.m. on Sept. 11, the van was spotted on a service road off Route 3, near New Jersey's Giants Stadium. A police officer pulled the van over, finding five men, between 22 and 27 years old, in the vehicle. The men were taken out of the van at gunpoint and handcuffed by police.

The arresting officers said they saw a lot that aroused their suspicion about the men. One of the passengers had $4,700 in cash hidden in his sock. Another was carrying two foreign passports. A box cutter was found in the van. But perhaps the biggest surprise for the officers came when the five men identified themselves as Israeli citizens.

The FBI searched Urban Moving's offices for several hours, removing boxes of documents and a dozen computer hard drives. The FBI also questioned Urban Moving's owner. His attorney insists that his client answered all of the FBI's questions. But when FBI agents tried to interview him again a few days later, he was gone.

Three months later 2020's cameras photographed the inside of Urban Moving, and it looked as if the business had been shut down in a big hurry. Cell phones were lying around; office phones were still connected; and the property of dozens of clients remained in the warehouse.

The owner had also cleared out of his New Jersey home, put it up for sale and returned with his family to Israel.

Steven Gordon, the attorney for the five Israeli detainees, acknowledged that his clients' actions on Sept. 11 would easily have aroused suspicions. "You got a group of guys that are taking pictures, on top of a roof, of the World Trade Center. They're speaking in a foreign language. They got two passports on 'em. One's got a wad of cash on him, and they got box cutters. Now that's a scary situation."

But Gordon insisted that his clients were just five young men who had come to America for a vacation, ended up working for a moving company, and were taking pictures of the event.

The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.

According to Cannistraro, many people in the U.S. intelligence community believed that some of the men arrested were working for Israeli intelligence.

Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies? - ABC News (go.com)
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Are you saying that foreign spies are spying on us?
That's unheard of!!!!
We don't spy on anybody.

Now, back to your Mossad claim......[crickets]

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Israel MUST stop receiving all USA funding
SUBTOPIC: Reasonable Man Concept
⁜→ watchingfromafar, et al,

BLUF: I try to use a Hypothetical Standard (as I see it as a layman). Try to determine if one side or the or (Israeli or Palestinian) acted with negligence or depraved indifference.

I try to objectively test each side of the complaint and try to determine which side is guilty of what offense. I totally disregard biblical references. I start the clock with the Armistice of Mudros (Concluded on 30 October 1918) where the hostilities in the Middle Eastern Theater of Operations when the Ottoman Empire effectively (the first time) surrendered to the Allied Powers. It is a secular thought process.

I do consider the string of do-overs (Armistice of Mudros → Treaty of Sevres → Treaty of Lausanne) and the intent relative to the disposition of territories. And I consider the importance of the of order in which key decisions made by the Allied Supreme Council • San Remo Conference • decided on April 24, 1920, to → crafting of the Mandate where the authoritative command was recorded. And I look at the Franco-British Convention of 23 December 1920 as well as, the impact of the Franco-Turkish Agreement of the 20th October 1921.

WHAT does this mean? (RHETORICAL) It means that The Arabs of Palestine have NO intention of living in peace.

RoccoR, how on God’s green earth do you support such wanton murdering, land thieving God’s chosen then cast out people-?
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(COMMENT)

You mention two allegations here.

◈. Wanton Murder.​

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◈. Land Theft​

Which one do you want to address? (One is not a lesser included offense of the other.)
Do you have a description of an event you want to address?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[watchingfromafar]

Are you saying that foreign spies are spying on us?
That's unheard of!!!!

I believe you live in the USA, but was not born here.
What does that tell you?
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[Toddsterpatriot]

Are you saying that foreign spies are spying on us?
That's unheard of!!!!

I believe you live in the USA, but was not born here.
What does that tell you?
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Born in Chicago.

Go Cubbies!!!

 

[watchingfromafar]

BLUF: I try to use a Hypothetical Standard (as I see it as a layman). Try to determine if one side or the or (Israeli or Palestinian) acted with negligence or depraved indifference.
I try to objectively test each side of the complaint and try to determine which side is guilty of what offense.

RoccoR , using your objective point of view, the Jews below were acting on their own beliefs since the state of Israel was not, as of yet made official.

Based on “your objective view” were the following murders justified--?

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.


The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs and you will get 144,000 hits
BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)

RoccoR, based on “your objective view” were the above murders justified--?

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[watchingfromafar]

Born in Chicago.

Thank you for your reply.
May you and yours live long and prosper
BTW: I was born in Corpus Christi, Texas

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[Toddsterpatriot]

BLUF: I try to use a Hypothetical Standard (as I see it as a layman). Try to determine if one side or the or (Israeli or Palestinian) acted with negligence or depraved indifference.
I try to objectively test each side of the complaint and try to determine which side is guilty of what offense.

RoccoR , using your objective point of view, the Jews below were acting on their own beliefs since the state of Israel was not, as of yet made official.

Based on “your objective view” were the following murders justified--?

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.


The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs and you will get 144,000 hits
BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)

RoccoR, based on “your objective view” were the above murders justified--?

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Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed

Link?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Born in Chicago.

Thank you for your reply.
May you and yours live long and prosper
BTW: I was born in Corpus Christi, Texas

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[watchingfromafar]

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed

And your point in that post was--?
BTW: You can Google the links and walla,,,, there they are
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[Indeependent]

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed

And your point in that post was--?
BTW: You can Google the links and walla,,,, there they are
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You might try reading the entire Book from the 1st verse to the last and see what an asshole you are.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And your point in that post was--?

You made a claim....you have no link for backup?

Weird.