Israel MUST stop recieving all USA funds

What has all this chatter about burial plots and quotes from the Book of Genesis have to do with the topic (US Funding to Israel)?
There are a few here who believe Israel is now occupying their true homeland because God gave it to them.

JGalt in post #121 stated the following--
She was not a "peace activist." She was a PLO and Hamas sympathizer and her idea of "peace" was for Israel to relinquish lands rightly given to them by the God of Abraham and Moses. Her version of "peace" would only exist after the Israelis are driven into the sea and Israel is cleanly wiped off the map.

JGalt in post #123 stated the following--
That is not theirs merely because the Hebrews "say so." Their being granted those lands is stated so by God's word, which is the Old testament of the Bible. Those "Arabs" were tribes of non-Judaic peoples and seeing as how Abraham lived from 1948 - 1638 BC, that pre-dates any 700 BC occupation by those tribes.

I posted the linage of the great Jewish people and where they were buried to show that they were not buried in the land now occupied by the Israelis.

Some still claim this is their “Promised Land” which is false as well.

Promised Land

“Moses went up Mount Nebo to the top of Pisgah, looked over the promised land of Israel spread out before him, and died, at the age of one hundred and twenty, according to Talmudic legend on 7 Adar, his 120th birthday exactly.

Moab is the historical name for a mountainous strip of land in modern-day Jordan running along the eastern shore of the Dead Sea. In ancient times, it was home to the kingdom of the Moabites, a people often in conflict with their Israelite neighbors to the west.

The Moabites were a historical people, whose existence is attested to by numerous archeological findings, most notably the Mesha Stele, which describes the Moabite victory over an unnamed son of King Omri of Israel. Their capital was Dibon, located next to the modern Jordanian town of Dhiban.
http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Moab

The US should not give Israel $billions because they have betrayed America in many ways. You do not give money to some one who would willingly stab you in the back.

FIRST ACTS OF TERRORISM, COINING THE PHRASE
The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish.
USS Liberty incident - Wikipedia

Arabs were not the “first” to engage in “terrorism”, The Zionists coined the phrase

November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.

July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem,.,.,killing or injuring more than 200 persons.

October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.

September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.

December 13, 1947 -- February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.

December ll, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa ; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.

December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.

January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.

January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons.

January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.

February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children.

March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured.

March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.

March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.

April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.

April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.

April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.

May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.

May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.

April 25, 1948 -- May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.

Israeli intelligence service, Mossad, has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations -- Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building -- celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center.

The Israelis at Liberty State Park were dressed in Arab-style clothing when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack.
http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r

Google Irgun, Haganah and Stern gangs and you will get 144,000 hits

BTW: The Haganah gang later became the Israeli Defense Force (IDF)
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Jewish liberation acts against Britain and The Arabs during war = Betrayel of Israel against America? Nonesense.

And I am all for Israel stop getting US aid.

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I honestly don't understand your meaning when you post about Abraham, Efron and Hebron. What exactly is your meaning?
 
Abraham lived from 1948 - 1638 BC, that pre-dates any 700 BC occupation by those tribes.
Do you have any idea where Abraham was buried-?

Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite,

Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ;

Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah.

Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation:

Genesis 50:13 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.

Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father.

JGalt, I have nothing against you. Just like you I need a homeland I can call mine.
The Jewish Promised Land is the USA, get used to it and live among the rest of us in peace.
:)-
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Hebron is Jewish, Jerusalem is Jewish, Judeah is Jewish. :)

Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews immigrated from Spain and Portugal. It was without incident.
OK WHAT A BULLSHIT

Literally the Arabs have had rumors about the structure of the Burial site, claiming King Solomon's Jinnies ( very common belief here ) built this site.

Why? Because there is no chance they would know this structure was built by the King Of Judeah ( Genetically, he was not a Jew. He was a vassal king from Rome, forced on us )

Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.
 
Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?
 
Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?
Hebron 1928.

We talk about a whole new level of ethnic cleansing.

Again, you prove us your lack of knowledge about thw history of the land, over and over. Again and again
 
in the 80s Israel was building its own National Fighter Jet named 'Lavie' plane. Long story short, The US pressed Israel to stop developing it, in its final stages, in return for annual funding Standing on3 Billion USD of which 75% can only be used in buying from the US - killing the terrific Israeli industries.

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Since 2019 Israel started recieving 3.8 Billion USD - 100% of it can only be used in buying from the US.

This Aid makes us uncapble of selling Israeli weapons without the US approval - to show you how bad the aid economically to Israel - in one drone deal with Azerbaijan we sold them 5 Billion USD worth of arms. not speaking about Russia and China - there are dozens of nations the US veto and forcing us not to sell them our drones in fear of competition .

the Aid is buying the US enormous amount of control in our land - which has been used maliciously against us several times - First of all - in the terrible Oslo agreement - forcing Israel to recognize and arm the murderous terror organization of Arafat - which killed thousands of Israeli citizens in bus bombing, drive by shootings and rocket attakcs, stabbing and suicide bombings.

the Second time - Clinton tried so hard to force Israel on giving the Arabs Jerusalem and Judeah and Samaria [ all in order to get a 'nobel peace' prize ] - Practically forming a terror state 5 km of our main airport, Making Israel a 16 KM wide border country.
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[Tel aviv from Judeah and Samaria. Imagine if Israel got thousdands of missiles from this strategic mountains - instead of the desertish strip of Gaza. this would happen under the Reagan, Clinton, Bush and Obama's peace deals. every single one of them wished to force Israel out of this historically Jewish lands ]

The AID completley destroys Israel's independence - and is the worst thing to happen in the alliance between Israel to the USA.

We appreciate the US [ not the modern democratic party.. tho ] and we do not wish to get your money. now listen to this.

The US aid to Israel - 3.8 Bs$ - is less than 0.8% of our GDP.

Unlike what many in the world would think - Israel could give up on the aid TODAY, and it not only would not kill our country - it would strenghten Israel - and the US -Israel relations.
Israel ask for the aid and is a great ally of the United States.
 
Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?
Hebron 1928.

We talk about a whole new level of ethnic cleansing.

Again, you prove us your lack of knowledge about thw history of the land, over and over. Again and again

Hebron was completely Arab util 1500 AD.. There was NO conflict for 500 years and then came European Zionism.. Read up on the history of Hebron.. Several excellent links have already been posted on this thread. The current population is about 230,000 Arabs and 8,000 Jews.

The population of Palestine doubled with European refugees during the British Mandate era, from 670,000 in 1922 to over 1.2 million in 1948.
 
he Arabs have had rumors about the structure of the Burial site, claiming King Solomon's Jinnies ( very common belief here ) built this site.

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Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?


It was just a dozen or so Jews from Spain and Portugal who settled in Hebron without incident when they were expelled from Spain and Portugal in 1492.
 
Abraham lived from 1948 - 1638 BC, that pre-dates any 700 BC occupation by those tribes.
Do you have any idea where Abraham was buried-?

Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite,

Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ;

Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah.

Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation:

Genesis 50:13 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.

Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father.

JGalt, I have nothing against you. Just like you I need a homeland I can call mine.
The Jewish Promised Land is the USA, get used to it and live among the rest of us in peace.
:)-
View attachment 493329

Hebron is Jewish, Jerusalem is Jewish, Judeah is Jewish. :)

Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews immigrated from Spain and Portugal. It was without incident.
OK WHAT A BULLSHIT

Literally the Arabs have had rumors about the structure of the Burial site, claiming King Solomon's Jinnies ( very common belief here ) built this site.

Why? Because there is no chance they would know this structure was built by the King Of Judeah ( Genetically, he was not a Jew. He was a vassal king from Rome, forced on us )

Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.

What is a jinnie?
 
Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?
Hebron 1928.

We talk about a whole new level of ethnic cleansing.

Again, you prove us your lack of knowledge about thw history of the land, over and over. Again and again

Hebron was completely Arab util 1500 AD.. There was NO conflict for 500 years and then came European Zionism.. Read up on the history of Hebron.. Several excellent links have already been posted on this thread. The current population is about 230,000 Arabs and 8,000 Jews.

The population of Palestine doubled with European refugees during the British Mandate era, from 670,000 in 1922 to over 1.2 million in 1948.
The Arab-islamic occupation lasted between 637' to 1500.

Hebron was never "Arabic" before 637'
You really are that dumb, right? Imagine thinking world history begins since the birth of Islam and its brutal, rapid colonization.


You, and your kind, always love colonization. But only when brown-black people do that
 
Abraham lived from 1948 - 1638 BC, that pre-dates any 700 BC occupation by those tribes.
Do you have any idea where Abraham was buried-?

Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite,

Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ;

Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah.

Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation:

Genesis 50:13 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.

Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father.

JGalt, I have nothing against you. Just like you I need a homeland I can call mine.
The Jewish Promised Land is the USA, get used to it and live among the rest of us in peace.
:)-
View attachment 493329

Hebron is Jewish, Jerusalem is Jewish, Judeah is Jewish. :)

Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews immigrated from Spain and Portugal. It was without incident.
OK WHAT A BULLSHIT

Literally the Arabs have had rumors about the structure of the Burial site, claiming King Solomon's Jinnies ( very common belief here ) built this site.

Why? Because there is no chance they would know this structure was built by the King Of Judeah ( Genetically, he was not a Jew. He was a vassal king from Rome, forced on us )

Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.

What is a jinnie?

I don't know how to translate it, Demon maybe.

It is very common, for Arabs and Jews, to believe that the Israelite King Solomon rulled the demons.

Since the Arabs were not present in Judeah at the building of the structure ( over the caves and burial site ) and were not the Native population - they assumed, due to the beliefe of Solomon's jinnies - that this was built by his request to the Jinnies, to protect Abraham's site
 
Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?
Hebron 1928.

We talk about a whole new level of ethnic cleansing.

Again, you prove us your lack of knowledge about thw history of the land, over and over. Again and again

Hebron was completely Arab util 1500 AD.. There was NO conflict for 500 years and then came European Zionism.. Read up on the history of Hebron.. Several excellent links have already been posted on this thread. The current population is about 230,000 Arabs and 8,000 Jews.

The population of Palestine doubled with European refugees during the British Mandate era, from 670,000 in 1922 to over 1.2 million in 1948.
The Arab-islamic occupation lasted between 637' to 1500.

Hebron was never "Arabic" before 637'
You really are that dumb, right? Imagine thinking world history begins since the birth of Islam and its brutal, rapid colonization.


You, and your kind, always love colonization. But only when brown-black people do that

Arabs have lived in Palestine for thousands of years.. Long before Islam. Abraham and Moses had Arab wives. Ezra talks about Arabs in Jerusalem when they returned fro Babylon.. Sargon 2 settled 4 Arab tribes in Samaria in 730 BC.

Brown? Arab is not a race.. Most of them are light olive like Arab Jews..They didn't immigrate from Europe or Poland or Russia.
 
Abraham lived from 1948 - 1638 BC, that pre-dates any 700 BC occupation by those tribes.
Do you have any idea where Abraham was buried-?

Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite,

Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ;

Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah.

Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation:

Genesis 50:13 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.

Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father.

JGalt, I have nothing against you. Just like you I need a homeland I can call mine.
The Jewish Promised Land is the USA, get used to it and live among the rest of us in peace.
:)-
View attachment 493329

Hebron is Jewish, Jerusalem is Jewish, Judeah is Jewish. :)

Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews immigrated from Spain and Portugal. It was without incident.
OK WHAT A BULLSHIT

Literally the Arabs have had rumors about the structure of the Burial site, claiming King Solomon's Jinnies ( very common belief here ) built this site.

Why? Because there is no chance they would know this structure was built by the King Of Judeah ( Genetically, he was not a Jew. He was a vassal king from Rome, forced on us )

Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.

What is a jinnie?

I don't know how to translate it, Demon maybe.

It is very common, for Arabs and Jews, to believe that the Israelite King Solomon rulled the demons.

Since the Arabs were not present in Judeah at the building of the structure ( over the caves and burial site ) and were not the Native population - they assumed, due to the beliefe of Solomon's jinnies - that this was built by his request to the Jinnies, to protect Abraham's site

The word you want is Jinn.. sort of like a genie.. its Arabic foklore like mother Eve being buried in Jedda. Solomon didn't build much. Most of what is credited to Solomon was built under king Omri.

Jews have their ancient folk tales too. Some are quite fabulous.
 
Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews
Until-?
Hebron (Arabic: الخليل أو الخليل الرحمن‎ About this soundal-Khalīl or al-Khalil al-Rahman; Hebrew: חֶבְרוֹן‎ About this soundḤevron) is a Palestinian city in the southern West Bank, 30 km (19 mi) south of Jerusalem. Nestled in the Judaean Mountains, it lies 930 meters (3,050 ft) above sea level. The largest city in the West Bank, and the second largest in the Palestinian territories after Gaza, it has a population of over 215,000 Palestinians (2016), and seven hundred Jewish settlers concentrated on the outskirts of the Old City of Hebron. It includes the Cave of the Patriarchs, which Judeo-Christian and Islamic traditions all designate as the burial site of three key patriarchal/matriarchal couples. Judaism ranks Hebron the second-holiest city after Jerusalem, while some Muslims regard it as one of the four holy cities.
Hebron - Wikipedia

It is a Palestinian city even if the Zionists manage to murder most of the Palestinians living there.
These "settlers" need to be moved; but God forbid NOT to the USA!!!!
:)-

Ignorant as hell.

The only reason Jews were not in Hebron is because the Arabs murdered raped and looted them until the last Jew. Worse than the cosacks.

But Hey, those Jews, right?
Hebron 1928.

We talk about a whole new level of ethnic cleansing.

Again, you prove us your lack of knowledge about thw history of the land, over and over. Again and again

Hebron was completely Arab util 1500 AD.. There was NO conflict for 500 years and then came European Zionism.. Read up on the history of Hebron.. Several excellent links have already been posted on this thread. The current population is about 230,000 Arabs and 8,000 Jews.

The population of Palestine doubled with European refugees during the British Mandate era, from 670,000 in 1922 to over 1.2 million in 1948.
The Arab-islamic occupation lasted between 637' to 1500.

Hebron was never "Arabic" before 637'
You really are that dumb, right? Imagine thinking world history begins since the birth of Islam and its brutal, rapid colonization.


You, and your kind, always love colonization. But only when brown-black people do that

Arabs have lived in Palestine for thousands of years.. Long before Islam. Abraham and Moses had Arab wives. Ezra talks about Arabs in Jerusalem when they returned fro Babylon.. Sargon 2 settled 4 Arab tribes in Samaria in 730 BC.

Brown? Arab is not a race.. Most of them are light olive like Arab Jews..They didn't immigrate from Europe or Poland or Russia.

Iraqis - Not arabs. Just because the Arabs have taken over Mesopothemia in their colonization - does not mean the Mesopothemians are Arabs.

Anyhow - the Samartian tribes - were putten in there in an act of colonization. One heck of a proof to show us how Arabs are native to Judeah and Samaria.

Yes, Arabs passed through the Levant. Theu were Traders and merchants. Like cushites, Egyptians, Pheonecians, Assyrians, Arabs also were trading.

- Mizrahi Jews are not "Arab''. They are Levantines who lived in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon ( smaller amount - in Yemen )

Why are there no 'Arab' Jews? Simple. Muhamad slayed them all. Anyhow, Mizrahi Jews are at my skin tone, and not in the Brown-black color of the Arabians.

( they did not immigrate from Poland or Russia - they immigrated from Arabia and colonized the Natives here )


It is so funny to see Europeans like yourself willing to excuse colonization, brutal as the Arabic - as long as the colobizers are Arabs. Funny.
 
Abraham lived from 1948 - 1638 BC, that pre-dates any 700 BC occupation by those tribes.
Do you have any idea where Abraham was buried-?

Genesis 25:9 His sons Isaac and Ishmael buried him in the cave of Machpelah near Mamre, in the field of Ephron son of Zohar the Hittite,

Genesis 47:30 but when I rest with my fathers, carry me out of Egypt and bury me [ Israel ] where they are buried." "I will do as you say," he said. ;

Genesis 49:31 There Abraham and his wife Sarah were buried, there Isaac and his wife Rebekah were buried, and there I buried Leah.

Genesis 50:10 And they came to the threshingfloor of Atad, which is beyond Jordan, and there they mourned with a great and very sore lamentation:

Genesis 50:13 For his sons carried him [ Israel ] into the land of Canaan, and buried him in the cave of the field of Machpelah, which Abraham bought with the field for a possession of a buryingplace of Ephron the Hittite, before Mamre.

Genesis 50:14 After burying his father, Joseph returned to Egypt, together with his brothers and all the others who had gone with him to bury his father.

JGalt, I have nothing against you. Just like you I need a homeland I can call mine.
The Jewish Promised Land is the USA, get used to it and live among the rest of us in peace.
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Hebron is Jewish, Jerusalem is Jewish, Judeah is Jewish. :)

Hebron was Arab until 1500 AD when some Jews immigrated from Spain and Portugal. It was without incident.
OK WHAT A BULLSHIT

Literally the Arabs have had rumors about the structure of the Burial site, claiming King Solomon's Jinnies ( very common belief here ) built this site.

Why? Because there is no chance they would know this structure was built by the King Of Judeah ( Genetically, he was not a Jew. He was a vassal king from Rome, forced on us )

Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.

What is a jinnie?

I don't know how to translate it, Demon maybe.

It is very common, for Arabs and Jews, to believe that the Israelite King Solomon rulled the demons.

Since the Arabs were not present in Judeah at the building of the structure ( over the caves and burial site ) and were not the Native population - they assumed, due to the beliefe of Solomon's jinnies - that this was built by his request to the Jinnies, to protect Abraham's site

The word you want is Jinn.. sort of like a genie.. its Arabic foklore like mother Eve being buried in Jedda. Solomon didn't build much. Most of what is credited to Solomon was built under king Omri.

Jews have their ancient folk tales too. Some are quite fabulous.

I like how you try to teach me.

I said - Solomon did not build The Cave of Hebron. Hordus did.

The Arab intruders - who did not know who Hordus was - made some tales about how Solomon built it with his jinnies. Did I mock it? No. But it shows you who the owner is. The Jewish people.

Btw, you claim Jews were never present at this place is so funny.

Abarham - bought and built this place

Issac - burried there with his wife
Yaacov - burried there with his wife

Jews and Israelites - were making this a place of prayer since the days of the first TEMPLE in Jerusalem - Solomon's temple - 1000BC

Hordus - built the structure above the cave - few years BC


The Arabs? 637' AD- conquest, occupation and colonization of this land.

And even during this occupation and persucation - the Jews had 2 synaguages. Until the second colonizers came - the Crusaders.
 
RE: Israel MUST stop receiving all USA funding
SUBTOPIC: Refugees 'vs' Descendants of Refugees
⁜→ et al,

IF there are still such a thing as "Palestinian Refugees" THEN they must be older than I am.


The Palestinian Right of Return (RoR) is generally based on:

◈ Paragraph 11 • General Assembly Resolution A/RES/194 (III) 11 December 1948, which: "Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date."
◈ Paragraph 2 • General Assembly Resolution A/RES/3236 (XXIX) 22 November 1974, which: Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return."​
◈ Article 12(4) • International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights 16 December 1966, which states: "No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country."​

Now none of these is really an International Order or International Law. But even if they were, there are two basic problems which present themselves.

◈ (NON-RETROACTIVITY RATIONE PERSONAE) Article 24 • Rome Statures • International Criminal Court:​
You cannot charge and prosecute any event for a violation of law if the law did not exist at the time of the event.​
You cannot charge and prosecute any event that happened outside the jurisdiction of the court.​
◈ (Return to their Homes and Property from which they have been Displaced and Uprooted 'vs' Return to their Homes and Live at Peace)​
Descendants which never had an established residence or home at the time of the event cannot claim a home or property which they never had.​
Ambiguous Meaning:​
One Resolution stipulates homes and property from which they were "displaced and uprooted."​
One Resolution stipulates merely to Return to their "Homes and Live at Peace."​

In an official communique (6 February 1948) to the UN Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee formally stated that "the Arabs of Palestine cannot recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any situation arising or derived therefrom." Additionally it was made very clear that the Arab Palestinians intended to "drenching the soil of our beloved country with the last drop of our blood in the lawful defense of all and every inch of it.” And the Arab Palestinians reaffirmed this position several times since then in various from by station Jihad is the only solution and armed struggle is the correct means to force their demands to be accepted. (Palestine from the River to the Sea.) The Arabs of Palestine consider the "creation of any Jewish state in an Arab territory is more than invasion or aggression, it is something with no precedent in history. It is en act of wiping out the existence of an Arab country, violating its integrity, subjecting its land and people to foreign Jewish domination.“

WHAT does this mean?
(RHETORICAL) It means that The Arabs of Palestine have NO intention of living in peace.

The Israeli position may be interpreted
(by a layman like myself) as implying the Arab Palestinians have NO right to engage in any activity or perform any act aimed at the destruction of the Jewish National, The State of Israel, or the rights, safety, and freedoms recognized by Israeli Citizens. Based on the past history of criminal and terrorist behaviors there is no reason to assume that the Arab Palestinians will accept a form of peace that does not include the dismantlement of the State of Israel and any aspect of a Jewish National Home.


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Most Respectfully,
R
 
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Just like they bought Jerusalem from the Jebusites.
And of course, since they had no gold or silver they used the Shekel as currency for the purchase.

1 Israeli New Shekel equals
0.31 United States Dollar

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You can not even buy a cup of coffee with an Israeli dollar.
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WHAT does this mean? (RHETORICAL) It means that The Arabs of Palestine have NO intention of living in peace.
RoccoR, how on God’s green earth do you support such wanton murdering, land thieving God’s chosen then cast out people-?
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RE: Israel MUST stop receiving all USA funding
SUBTOPIC: Refugees 'vs' Descendants of Refugees
⁜→ et al,

IF there are still such a thing as "Palestinian Refugees" THEN they must be older than I am.


The Palestinian Right of Return (RoR) is generally based on:

◈ Paragraph 11 • General Assembly Resolution A/RES/194 (III) 11 December 1948, which: "Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date."
◈ Paragraph 2 • General Assembly Resolution A/RES/3236 (XXIX) 22 November 1974, which: Reaffirms also the inalienable right of the Palestinians to return to their homes and property from which they have been displaced and uprooted, and calls for their return."​
◈ Article 12(4) • International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights 16 December 1966, which states: "No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of the right to enter his own country."​

Now none of these is really an International Order or International Law. But even if they were, there are two basic problems which present themselves.

◈ (NON-RETROACTIVITY RATIONE PERSONAE) Article 24 • Rome Statures • International Criminal Court:​
You cannot charge and prosecute any event for a violation of law if the law did not exist at the time of the event.​
You cannot charge and prosecute any event that happened outside the jurisdiction of the court.​
◈ (Return to their Homes and Property from which they have been Displaced and Uprooted 'vs' Return to their Homes and Live at Peace)​
Descendants which never had an established residence or home at the time of the event cannot claim a home or property which they never had.​
Ambiguous Meaning:​
One Resolution stipulates homes and property from which they were "displaced and uprooted."​
One Resolution stipulates merely to Return to their "Homes and Live at Peace."​

In an official communique (6 February 1948) to the UN Secretary-General by Mr. Isa Nakhleh, Representative of the Arab Higher Committee formally stated that "the Arabs of Palestine cannot recognize the Balfour Declaration, the Mandate of Palestine or any situation arising or derived therefrom." Additionally it was made very clear that the Arab Palestinians intended to "drenching the soil of our beloved country with the last drop of our blood in the lawful defense of all and every inch of it.” And the Arab Palestinians reaffirmed this position several times since then in various from by station Jihad is the only solution and armed struggle is the correct means to force their demands to be accepted. (Palestine from the River to the Sea.) The Arabs of Palestine consider the "creation of any Jewish state in an Arab territory is more than invasion or aggression, it is something with no precedent in history. It is en act of wiping out the existence of an Arab country, violating its integrity, subjecting its land and people to foreign Jewish domination.“

WHAT does this mean?
(RHETORICAL) It means that The Arabs of Palestine have NO intention of living in peace.

The Israeli position may be interpreted
(by a layman like myself) as implying the Arab Palestinians have NO right to engage in any activity or perform any act aimed at the destruction of the Jewish National, The State of Israel, or the rights, safety, and freedoms recognized by Israeli Citizens. Based on the past history of criminal and terrorist behaviors there is no reason to assume that the Arab Palestinians will accept a form of peace that does not include the dismantlement of the State of Israel and any aspect of a Jewish National Home.


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Most Respectfully,
R

They lived in peace for 2500 years.
 
Hebron was a Jewish site of prayer since the first temple. We talk about 1000BC.
the above is bull-shit!!
The Israeli–Palestinian conflict in Hebron refers to an ongoing conflict between Palestinians and Jewish settlers in the West Bank city of Hebron in the context of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Hebron has a Palestinian majority, consisting of an estimated 208,750 citizens and a small Jewish minority, variously numbered between 500 and 800. The H1 sector of Hebron, home to around 170,000 Palestinians, is governed by the Palestinian Authority. H2, which was inhabited by around 30,000 Palestinians is under Israeli military control with an entire brigade in place to protect some 800 Jewish residents living in the old Jewish quarter. As of 2015, Israel has declared that a number of special areas of Old City of Hebron constitute a closed military zone. Palestinians shops have been forced to close; despite protests Palestinian women are reportedly frisked by men, and residents, who are subjected every day to repeated body searches, must register to obtain special permits to navigate through the 18 military checkpoints Israel has set up in the city center.
Israeli–Palestinian conflict in Hebron - Wikipedia

Israel is set to approve construction of settler homes in a flashpoint area of the West Bank city of Hebron for the first time since 2002, the anti-occupation group Peace Now said Tuesday.

Hebron is considered a West Bank powder-keg where around 800 Jewish settlers live under hefty Israeli army security, surrounded by around 200,000 Palestinians.

Israel to okay permits for 31 settler homes in Hebron -- watchdog | The Times of Israel

800 Jewish settlers mean they are not from Hebron but invaders using the Zionist military to force their occupation.
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