Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not (a repeat thread)

[Toddsterpatriot]

In fact, Jordan administered the West Bank from 1949

Administered?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Palestine was also supposed to be for the native Arabs,

Native Arabs? Outside of Arabia?

Have you always been retarded?

Almost all the natives to Palestine are Arabs, like the Canaanites, Philistines, Phoenicians, Amorites, Chaldeans, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
In fact, the Hebrew who are native to the Sinai, are also Arabs.

Israel has killed a tiny fraction of the Palestinians that Jordan has, and Jordan is never called out for that. And it was for the same reason. The Palestinians kept murdering and doing terror attacks to Jordon. They'd get sick of it and slaughter a bunch of Palestinians.

It only became an issue when Israel stepped in and Jew haters like you suddenly cared. Pick up a history book sometime.

Since you want to apply 1948 actions to today, as a Democrat, that makes you a KKK, Jim Crow, lynching, cross burning and segregation supporter. Didn't think that one through, did you Adolph?

Stop apologizing for your existence and grow a pair

Not at all true.
Jordan and Palestine have never had any sort of conflict at all, ever.
In fact, Jordan administered the West Bank from 1949 until the Israelis invaded on 1967.

The racism in the US is irrelevant.
The racism in the US goes back to slavery of the 1600s.
The Jews did not emigrate to Palestine until the 1930s, 40s, and 50s.
And it is the Zionists who caused all the trouble, like murdering the British peacekeepers, and UN Moderator.
1948 is relevant because that is when the UN described the legal borders of Israel, which do not include Jerusalem or any of the West Bank.

1948 is relevant because that is when the UN described the legal borders of Israel,

What were the borders in 1949, after Israel kicked the Arab armies in the ass?
What were the borders in 1967, after Israel kicked the Arab armies in the ass?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Jordan and Palestine have never had any sort of conflict at all, ever.

What is Black September?

 

[K9Buck]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Why would Israel want to be affiliated with this shithole of a country?

 

[Rigby5]

In fact, Jordan administered the West Bank from 1949

Administered?

Yes, administered, just as the British used to administer the whole of Palestine until the Zionist blew them up in the King David Hotel bombing.
Administer means you carry out government operations for the country while they try to create their own government.

 

[Rigby5]

Palestine was also supposed to be for the native Arabs,

Native Arabs? Outside of Arabia?

Have you always been retarded?

Almost all the natives to Palestine are Arabs, like the Canaanites, Philistines, Phoenicians, Amorites, Chaldeans, Urites, Nabatians, etc.
In fact, the Hebrew who are native to the Sinai, are also Arabs.

Israel has killed a tiny fraction of the Palestinians that Jordan has, and Jordan is never called out for that. And it was for the same reason. The Palestinians kept murdering and doing terror attacks to Jordon. They'd get sick of it and slaughter a bunch of Palestinians.

It only became an issue when Israel stepped in and Jew haters like you suddenly cared. Pick up a history book sometime.

Since you want to apply 1948 actions to today, as a Democrat, that makes you a KKK, Jim Crow, lynching, cross burning and segregation supporter. Didn't think that one through, did you Adolph?

Stop apologizing for your existence and grow a pair

Not at all true.
Jordan and Palestine have never had any sort of conflict at all, ever.
In fact, Jordan administered the West Bank from 1949 until the Israelis invaded on 1967.

The racism in the US is irrelevant.
The racism in the US goes back to slavery of the 1600s.
The Jews did not emigrate to Palestine until the 1930s, 40s, and 50s.
And it is the Zionists who caused all the trouble, like murdering the British peacekeepers, and UN Moderator.
1948 is relevant because that is when the UN described the legal borders of Israel, which do not include Jerusalem or any of the West Bank.

1948 is relevant because that is when the UN described the legal borders of Israel,

What were the borders in 1949, after Israel kicked the Arab armies in the ass?
What were the borders in 1967, after Israel kicked the Arab armies in the ass?

It is an illegal war crime to annex land occupied by military conquest.
That makes Israel the greatest war criminal in the world right now.

And by the way, the Palestinians never had arms or armies, so were never involved in any of the wars.
The well armed Zionist just massacred them anyway.

 

[theHawk]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Well by that reasoning Afghanistan, Iraq, Jordan, Egypt, Ethiopia, and Kenya are states too.

 

[Rigby5]

Jordan and Palestine have never had any sort of conflict at all, ever.

What is Black September?

{...
Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎; Aylūl Al-Aswad), also known as the Jordanian Civil War was a conflict fought in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan between the Jordanian Armed Forces (JAF), under the leadership of King Hussein, and the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under the leadership of Yasser Arafat, primarily between 16 and 27 September 1970
...
After Jordan lost control of the West Bank to Israel in 1967, Palestinian fighters known as fedayeen moved their bases to Jordan and stepped up their attacks on Israel and Israeli-occupied territories. One Israeli retaliation on a PLO camp based in Karameh, a Jordanian town along the border with the West Bank, developed into a full-scale battle. The perceived joint Jordanian-Palestinian victory against Israel during the 1968 Battle of Karameh led to an upsurge in Arab support for the fedayeen in Jordan, in both new recruits and financial aid. The PLO's strength in Jordan grew, and by the beginning of 1970, groups within the PLO had begun to openly call for the overthrow of the Hashemite monarchy.

Acting as a state within a state, the fedayeen disregarded local laws and regulations, and even attempted to assassinate King Hussein twice—leading to violent confrontations between them and the Jordanian Army in June 1970. Hussein wanted to oust them from the country, but hesitated to strike because he did not want his enemies to use it against him by equating Palestinian fighters with civilians. PLO actions in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings incident of 6 September, in which the PFLP hijacked three civilian aircraft and forced their landing in Zarqa, taking foreign nationals as hostages, and later blowing up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw, and ordered the army to take action.[10]

On 17 September, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with significant PLO presence including Amman and Irbid, and began shelling Palestinian refugee camps where the fedayeen were established. The next day, forces from the Syrian Army, with Palestine Liberation Army markings, intervened in support of the fedayeen and advanced towards Irbid which the fedayeen had occupied and declared to be a "liberated" city. On 22 September, the Syrians withdrew from Irbid after the Jordanians launched an air-ground offensive that inflicted heavy losses on the Syrians. Mounting pressure by Arab countries (such as Iraq) led Hussein to halt the fighting. On 13 October he signed an agreement with Arafat to regulate the fedayeen's presence in Jordan. However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971 and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 fedayeen surrendered after being surrounded in a forest near Ajloun on 17 July, marking the end of the conflict.[11]

Jordan allowed the fedayeen to leave for Lebanon via Syria, and the fedayeen later participated in the 1975 Lebanese Civil War. The Black September Organization was founded after the conflict to carry out reprisals against Jordanian authorities, and the organization's first noted attack was the assassination of Jordanian Prime Minister Wasfi Tal in 1971 who had commanded parts of the operations that expelled the fedayeen. The organization then shifted to attacking Israeli targets, including the highly publicized Munich massacre of Israeli athletes. Even though Black September did not reflect a Jordanian-Palestinian divide, as there were Palestinians and Jordanians on both sides of the conflict, it paved the way for such a divide subsequently.[12
...}

The PLO is one particular organization, and is not very Palestinian, as Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.
But apparently the fedayeen was rebel Jordanians and not Palestinians.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Administer means you carry out government operations for the country while they try to create their own government.

When/how did Jordan try to create a palestinian government?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Your fucking ignorance. It’s a military contract it’s not aid you moron. Fuck you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It is an illegal war crime to annex land occupied by military conquest.

I agree. When can we expect all the Muslims to withdraw to Saudi Arabia?

And by the way, the Palestinians never had arms or armies,

Or a country.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Israel is the one ally in the Mid East that we can depend on today.

I puke at the thought.
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I puke when reading your fucking long winded posts

 

[fncceo]

Jordan administered the West Bank from 1949

Jordan OCCUPIED The West Bank from 1948 where they put Palestinians in refugee camps.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Jordan and Palestine have never had any sort of conflict at all, ever.

What is Black September?

{...
Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎; Aylūl Al-Aswad), also known as the Jordanian Civil War was a conflict fought in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan between the Jordanian Armed Forces (JAF), under the leadership of King Hussein, and the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under the leadership of Yasser Arafat, primarily between 16 and 27 September 1970
...
After Jordan lost control of the West Bank to Israel in 1967, Palestinian fighters known as fedayeen moved their bases to Jordan and stepped up their attacks on Israel and Israeli-occupied territories. One Israeli retaliation on a PLO camp based in Karameh, a Jordanian town along the border with the West Bank, developed into a full-scale battle. The perceived joint Jordanian-Palestinian victory against Israel during the 1968 Battle of Karameh led to an upsurge in Arab support for the fedayeen in Jordan, in both new recruits and financial aid. The PLO's strength in Jordan grew, and by the beginning of 1970, groups within the PLO had begun to openly call for the overthrow of the Hashemite monarchy.

Acting as a state within a state, the fedayeen disregarded local laws and regulations, and even attempted to assassinate King Hussein twice—leading to violent confrontations between them and the Jordanian Army in June 1970. Hussein wanted to oust them from the country, but hesitated to strike because he did not want his enemies to use it against him by equating Palestinian fighters with civilians. PLO actions in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings incident of 6 September, in which the PFLP hijacked three civilian aircraft and forced their landing in Zarqa, taking foreign nationals as hostages, and later blowing up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw, and ordered the army to take action.[10]

On 17 September, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with significant PLO presence including Amman and Irbid, and began shelling Palestinian refugee camps where the fedayeen were established. The next day, forces from the Syrian Army, with Palestine Liberation Army markings, intervened in support of the fedayeen and advanced towards Irbid which the fedayeen had occupied and declared to be a "liberated" city. On 22 September, the Syrians withdrew from Irbid after the Jordanians launched an air-ground offensive that inflicted heavy losses on the Syrians. Mounting pressure by Arab countries (such as Iraq) led Hussein to halt the fighting. On 13 October he signed an agreement with Arafat to regulate the fedayeen's presence in Jordan. However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971 and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 fedayeen surrendered after being surrounded in a forest near Ajloun on 17 July, marking the end of the conflict.[11]

Jordan allowed the fedayeen to leave for Lebanon via Syria, and the fedayeen later participated in the 1975 Lebanese Civil War. The Black September Organization was founded after the conflict to carry out reprisals against Jordanian authorities, and the organization's first noted attack was the assassination of Jordanian Prime Minister Wasfi Tal in 1971 who had commanded parts of the operations that expelled the fedayeen. The organization then shifted to attacking Israeli targets, including the highly publicized Munich massacre of Israeli athletes. Even though Black September did not reflect a Jordanian-Palestinian divide, as there were Palestinians and Jordanians on both sides of the conflict, it paved the way for such a divide subsequently.[12
...}

The PLO is one particular organization, and is not very Palestinian, as Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.
But apparently the fedayeen was rebel Jordanians and not Palestinians.

So that was Jordan kicking the ass of (and killing) a bunch of Palestinians. Right?

The PLO is one particular organization, and is not very Palestinian,

LOL!

as Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.

And gay.

 

[Rigby5]

Administer means you carry out government operations for the country while they try to create their own government.

When/how did Jordan try to create a palestinian government?

Jordan had no mandate to create a Palestinian government.
They instead just wanted to administer the West Bank, out of humanitarian reasons.
They organized garbage collection, utilities, taxes, etc.

The Palestinians could have formed their own government, if not for Israel arresting, beating, shooting, and preventing Palestine from having a government of its own.

 

[Rigby5]

Israel, the 51st State of the USA & then maybe not

For all practical purposes Israel is America’s 51st State. The US gives Israel 10’s of $billions of dollars each year and yet American Citizen’s did not vote for this.

What’s up?
I think it is time for a national vote on this.

Either we bring in Israel as our 51st State and they pay their fair share or we stop the $billions in handouts.

How do you vote-?

This report provides an overview of U.S. foreign assistance to Israel. It includes a review of past aid programs, data on annual assistance, and analysis of current issues. For general information on Israel, see CRS Report RL33476, Israel: Background and U.S. Relations, by Jim Zanotti. Israel is the largest cumulative recipient of U.S. foreign assistance since World War II. To date, the United States has provided Israel $127.4 billion (current, or non-inflation-adjusted, dollars) in bilateral assistance. Almost all U.S. bilateral aid to Israel is in the form of military assistance, although in the past Israel also received significant economic assistance.

BTW We, as in American citizens owe Israel nothing, nada, zip so I as---

In Jerusalem Israeli’s spit on Christians and the US press never reports it.

What’s up------?

Your fucking ignorance. It’s a military contract it’s not aid you moron. Fuck you.

Wrong.
We have been over this.
It is aid.
We give Israel $5 billion in free weapons, so then they do not have to spend their own money on weapons, and instead spend it on luxuries.
They have a higher standard of living in Israel than we have in the US.
And US taxpayers foot the bill.

 

[Rigby5]

It is an illegal war crime to annex land occupied by military conquest.

I agree. When can we expect all the Muslims to withdraw to Saudi Arabia?

And by the way, the Palestinians never had arms or armies,

Or a country.

Wrong.
The Palestinian Arabs are native and did NOT come from Arabia.
They include:
Canaanites,
Jebusites,
Philistines,
Hebrews,
Amorites,
Edomites,
Nabataeans,
Arameans,
Hittites,
Babylonians,
Assyrians,
Phoenicians,
Chaldeans,
etc.

The Arabs in Arabia came from Palestine.
You have it backwards.

 

[Rigby5]

It is an illegal war crime to annex land occupied by military conquest.

I agree. When can we expect all the Muslims to withdraw to Saudi Arabia?

And by the way, the Palestinians never had arms or armies,

Or a country.

The country of Palestine was created in 1920 by the Treaty of San Remo, and the Treaty of Sevres.

 

[Rigby5]

Jordan administered the West Bank from 1949

Jordan OCCUPIED The West Bank from 1948 where they put Palestinians in refugee camps.

The only refugee camps were for the Palestinians illegally dispossessed of their homes by the Israelis.

 

[Rigby5]

Jordan and Palestine have never had any sort of conflict at all, ever.

What is Black September?

{...
Black September (Arabic: أيلول الأسود‎; Aylūl Al-Aswad), also known as the Jordanian Civil War was a conflict fought in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan between the Jordanian Armed Forces (JAF), under the leadership of King Hussein, and the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO), under the leadership of Yasser Arafat, primarily between 16 and 27 September 1970
...
After Jordan lost control of the West Bank to Israel in 1967, Palestinian fighters known as fedayeen moved their bases to Jordan and stepped up their attacks on Israel and Israeli-occupied territories. One Israeli retaliation on a PLO camp based in Karameh, a Jordanian town along the border with the West Bank, developed into a full-scale battle. The perceived joint Jordanian-Palestinian victory against Israel during the 1968 Battle of Karameh led to an upsurge in Arab support for the fedayeen in Jordan, in both new recruits and financial aid. The PLO's strength in Jordan grew, and by the beginning of 1970, groups within the PLO had begun to openly call for the overthrow of the Hashemite monarchy.

Acting as a state within a state, the fedayeen disregarded local laws and regulations, and even attempted to assassinate King Hussein twice—leading to violent confrontations between them and the Jordanian Army in June 1970. Hussein wanted to oust them from the country, but hesitated to strike because he did not want his enemies to use it against him by equating Palestinian fighters with civilians. PLO actions in Jordan culminated in the Dawson's Field hijackings incident of 6 September, in which the PFLP hijacked three civilian aircraft and forced their landing in Zarqa, taking foreign nationals as hostages, and later blowing up the planes in front of international press. Hussein saw this as the last straw, and ordered the army to take action.[10]

On 17 September, the Jordanian Army surrounded cities with significant PLO presence including Amman and Irbid, and began shelling Palestinian refugee camps where the fedayeen were established. The next day, forces from the Syrian Army, with Palestine Liberation Army markings, intervened in support of the fedayeen and advanced towards Irbid which the fedayeen had occupied and declared to be a "liberated" city. On 22 September, the Syrians withdrew from Irbid after the Jordanians launched an air-ground offensive that inflicted heavy losses on the Syrians. Mounting pressure by Arab countries (such as Iraq) led Hussein to halt the fighting. On 13 October he signed an agreement with Arafat to regulate the fedayeen's presence in Jordan. However, the Jordanian military attacked again in January 1971 and the fedayeen were driven out of the cities, one by one, until 2,000 fedayeen surrendered after being surrounded in a forest near Ajloun on 17 July, marking the end of the conflict.[11]

Jordan allowed the fedayeen to leave for Lebanon via Syria, and the fedayeen later participated in the 1975 Lebanese Civil War. The Black September Organization was founded after the conflict to carry out reprisals against Jordanian authorities, and the organization's first noted attack was the assassination of Jordanian Prime Minister Wasfi Tal in 1971 who had commanded parts of the operations that expelled the fedayeen. The organization then shifted to attacking Israeli targets, including the highly publicized Munich massacre of Israeli athletes. Even though Black September did not reflect a Jordanian-Palestinian divide, as there were Palestinians and Jordanians on both sides of the conflict, it paved the way for such a divide subsequently.[12
...}

The PLO is one particular organization, and is not very Palestinian, as Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.
But apparently the fedayeen was rebel Jordanians and not Palestinians.

So that was Jordan kicking the ass of (and killing) a bunch of Palestinians. Right?

The PLO is one particular organization, and is not very Palestinian,

LOL!

as Yasser Arafat was Egyptian.

And gay.

The Jordanian king was killing Jordanians more than Palestinians.
The fedayeen were Jordanians and it was a civil war.

If you have not followed how it went in Egypt, I will explain it.
The US bribes Arab countries to not help the Palestinians.
When they do, like Morsi who allowed commerce unimpeded, then the US pays the corrupt military to over throw them.
Why do you think we also give Egypt $5 billion a year?