Lipush...
Message Boards were made for people to debate their personal opinions, matters that are open to subjective interpretation and not to deny facts.
For example:
We can have a good debate about whether or not the US nuking of Japan constituted an act of state terrorism. But if one of the debaters denies the historical fact, declaring that the nuking is an invention of historians, that it didn't occur at all, he will immediately kill the debate.
We can have a legitimate debate whether or not the palestinian refugees should return to Israel or remain in the WB and Gaza, but we cannot debate the existence of the refugees itself.
Facts are not open for discussion.
The vast majority of the arab citizens of Israel don't have any identification with the jewish state and are openly hostile to it. This is a fact you shouldn't be denying.
If you tell me the overwhelming majority of israeli Jews strongly oppose the dismantlement of Israel and the return of palestinians I will reluctantly agree with you because this is an undeniable fact. To be fair to Uri Avneri, not even him accept the return of Palestinian arabs... he believes the future of the state must be decided by its citizens.
You can even taunt me about this fact all you want:
"Israeli jews who support the RoR are a microscopic minority in Israel and will remain so for the foreseeable future, José. Tough shit!! Deal with it!!"
You can mock me all you want and you still won't see me denying this fact no matter how much it displeases me because if I deny it I will no longer be debating in good faith, it would be intellectual dishonesty on my part.
Are there a handful of israeli Jews who support the right of all palestinians to live in Israel?? Of course there are!! Some of them can even be seen in one of the videos you posted about Nakhba Day in Israel:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/294174-the-nakba-day-heroine-dovrat-malul.html
Am I going to rape reality and try to present those israeli jews as anything other than the tiny minority they really are like you are trying to do with your arab Army officer? Of course not... Those israeli jews don't represent any jewish citizen in the country but themselves... denying this fact is absolute insanity. I don't want to "win" any debate by denying a reality that's in front of my eyes like you're trying to do with palestinian arabs.
Message Boards were made for people to debate their personal opinions, matters that are open to subjective interpretation and not to deny facts.
For example:
We can have a good debate about whether or not the US nuking of Japan constituted an act of state terrorism. But if one of the debaters denies the historical fact, declaring that the nuking is an invention of historians, that it didn't occur at all, he will immediately kill the debate.
We can have a legitimate debate whether or not the palestinian refugees should return to Israel or remain in the WB and Gaza, but we cannot debate the existence of the refugees itself.
Facts are not open for discussion.
The vast majority of the arab citizens of Israel don't have any identification with the jewish state and are openly hostile to it. This is a fact you shouldn't be denying.
If you tell me the overwhelming majority of israeli Jews strongly oppose the dismantlement of Israel and the return of palestinians I will reluctantly agree with you because this is an undeniable fact. To be fair to Uri Avneri, not even him accept the return of Palestinian arabs... he believes the future of the state must be decided by its citizens.
You can even taunt me about this fact all you want:
"Israeli jews who support the RoR are a microscopic minority in Israel and will remain so for the foreseeable future, José. Tough shit!! Deal with it!!"
You can mock me all you want and you still won't see me denying this fact no matter how much it displeases me because if I deny it I will no longer be debating in good faith, it would be intellectual dishonesty on my part.
Are there a handful of israeli Jews who support the right of all palestinians to live in Israel?? Of course there are!! Some of them can even be seen in one of the videos you posted about Nakhba Day in Israel:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/israel-and-palestine/294174-the-nakba-day-heroine-dovrat-malul.html
Am I going to rape reality and try to present those israeli jews as anything other than the tiny minority they really are like you are trying to do with your arab Army officer? Of course not... Those israeli jews don't represent any jewish citizen in the country but themselves... denying this fact is absolute insanity. I don't want to "win" any debate by denying a reality that's in front of my eyes like you're trying to do with palestinian arabs.
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