Israel's War Against Hamas - Updates

[Sixties Fan]

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yet the WCK convoy which was operating in coordination with the Israeli army along an approved route was was struck repeatedly by the Israeli military three times as the aid workers were trying to flee, ensuring all their deaths.

True, but since Israel was depending on WCK and others to provide aid to areas the IDF was planning to evacuate civilians in Rafah to, it makes no sense to suggest the IDF ordered the trucks to be hit.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

Taking responsibility is not the same as finding the reason why it happened and making sure it does not happen again.

In the meantime, Hamas uses Hospitals with thousands of civilians in them to launch rockets at the IDF. AND shoot any civilian who goes against them, AND beat the crap out of poor Gazans they find in homes which do not belong to them while trying to survive the war.

You choose the people you would behave like in a war. Hamas = Matted. Matted = Hamas.

There's an endless litany of incidents that shouldn't happen again but seemingly do. And fuck off kindly with saying I'm a Hamas supporter.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

True, but since Israel was depending on WCK and others to provide aid to areas the IDF was planning to evacuate civilians in Rafah to, it makes no sense to suggest the IDF ordered the trucks to be hit.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

Israeli Army Sources: Gaza Aid Workers Killed Because 'IDF Officers on the Ground Do What They Want'

The IDF and defense ministry claimed that the aid workers' killing resulted from poor coordination. Israeli army sources later refuted their claims, saying the incident has 'no connection to coordination' and was caused by the fact that 'every commander sets the rules for himself'

The army's killing of seven aid workers in the Gaza Strip on Monday night stemmed from poor discipline among field commanders, not a lack of coordination between the army and aid organizations, army sources said on Tuesday.

They added that the officers and soldiers involved had violated Israel Defense Forces regulations and orders.

The sources accused the IDF's Southern Command of trying to deflect blame for the incident in Deir al-Balah, in which seven employees of World Central Kitchen were killed. A source in the intelligence branch said the command "knows exactly what the cause of the attack was – in Gaza, everyone does as he pleases."

Army regulations say that final approval for any action against sensitive targets like aid organizations must be given by senior officers – the division commander, the head of the command or even the chief of staff. But in Gaza, the source said, "every commander sets the rules for himself" and gives his own interpretation of the rules of engagement.

In this case, it's not yet clear whether the decision to open fire on the aid convoy was sent to senior commanders for approval.
In their official response, the IDF and the Defense Ministry claimed that the aid workers' deaths stemmed from poor coordination between the troops in the field and officials from the aid organizations.

Both Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and IDF Chief of Staff Herzl Halevi publicly promised a comprehensive investigation of the incident. They also decided to open a war room jointly manned by personnel from Southern Command and international aid organizations that will be in charge of liaising with troops in the field.

But coordination between the IDF and the organizations already exists, and liaison officers inform the troops about areas they can't attack because aid workers or a large concentration of civilians are present.

The sources therefore criticized Gallant and Halevi for depicting the incident as stemming from poor coordination, terming this "puzzling."
"It has no connection to coordination," the intelligence branch source said. "You can set up another 20 administrations or war rooms, but if someone doesn't decide to put an end to the conduct of some of the troops inside Gaza, we'll see more incidents like this."

From the moment the war began, the IDF realized the importance of bringing in and distributing aid in Gaza, and this was taken into account when plans for the war were drawn up before the ground operation began. From the earliest days of the fighting, officers were stationed in the field whose job was to liaise between the troops and aid organizations, and also to coordinate the evacuation of civilians from places where fighting was taking place.

These officers, who are with the troops in the field 24 hours a day, were stationed at the command, division and brigade levels, as well as with the teams responsible for missile launches and other attacks. The IDF even publicly showed off the war rooms in charge of this activity more than once.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Surely the #WCK knew the risks of entering active war zones. Almost like that reporter who was killed during an active gun battle.

Reminder: if #October7massacre hadn't happened a lot of people would still be alive.

Put the blame where it belongs: #Hamas https://jpost.com/breaking-news/article-794973

 

[toomuchtime_]

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So then you are not saying the IDF ordered the trucks hit, but rather a rogue drone operator disobeyed orders and hit the trucks on his own initiative. Another possibility is that communications got screwed up and the drone operator didn't get the information about the aid trucks. However, it makes no sense to suggest the IDF ordered the attack since they need these aid agencies to do their work so the IDF can evacuate civilians from Rafah before attacking.

 

[Sixties Fan]

There's an endless litany of incidents that shouldn't happen again but seemingly do. And fuck off kindly with saying I'm a Hamas supporter.

Hey General !!!!
When you get any experience with any war IN PERSON, let us know. And let us know how many die by friendly fire.

Hamas is responsible for EACH and EVERY death which has occurred since 10/7.

Send them the bill.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Israeli Army Sources: Gaza Aid Workers Killed Because 'IDF Officers on the Ground Do What They Want'

The IDF and defense ministry claimed that the aid workers' killing resulted from poor coordination. Israeli army sources later refuted their claims, saying the incident has 'no connection to coordination' and was caused by the fact that 'every commander sets the rules for himself'

The army's killing of seven aid workers in the Gaza Strip on Monday night stemmed from poor discipline among field commanders, not a lack of coordination between the army and aid organizations, army sources said on Tuesday.

They added that the officers and soldiers involved had violated Israel Defense Forces regulations and orders.

The sources accused the IDF's Southern Command of trying to deflect blame for the incident in Deir al-Balah, in which seven employees of World Central Kitchen were killed. A source in the intelligence branch said the command "knows exactly what the cause of the attack was – in Gaza, everyone does as he pleases."

Army regulations say that final approval for any action against sensitive targets like aid organizations must be given by senior officers – the division commander, the head of the command or even the chief of staff. But in Gaza, the source said, "every commander sets the rules for himself" and gives his own interpretation of the rules of engagement.

In this case, it's not yet clear whether the decision to open fire on the aid convoy was sent to senior commanders for approval.
In their official response, the IDF and the Defense Ministry claimed that the aid workers' deaths stemmed from poor coordination between the troops in the field and officials from the aid organizations.

Both Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and IDF Chief of Staff Herzl Halevi publicly promised a comprehensive investigation of the incident. They also decided to open a war room jointly manned by personnel from Southern Command and international aid organizations that will be in charge of liaising with troops in the field.

But coordination between the IDF and the organizations already exists, and liaison officers inform the troops about areas they can't attack because aid workers or a large concentration of civilians are present.

The sources therefore criticized Gallant and Halevi for depicting the incident as stemming from poor coordination, terming this "puzzling."
"It has no connection to coordination," the intelligence branch source said. "You can set up another 20 administrations or war rooms, but if someone doesn't decide to put an end to the conduct of some of the troops inside Gaza, we'll see more incidents like this."

From the moment the war began, the IDF realized the importance of bringing in and distributing aid in Gaza, and this was taken into account when plans for the war were drawn up before the ground operation began. From the earliest days of the fighting, officers were stationed in the field whose job was to liaise between the troops and aid organizations, and also to coordinate the evacuation of civilians from places where fighting was taking place.

These officers, who are with the troops in the field 24 hours a day, were stationed at the command, division and brigade levels, as well as with the teams responsible for missile launches and other attacks. The IDF even publicly showed off the war rooms in charge of this activity more than once.

You are hiding the source.

What else would be new with you????

 

[Sixties Fan]

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An anti Israel Israeli source.
You simply do not learn.

You are not against Hamas but you fall for every anti Israel source you not only insist on reading but also believing .

How amazing that the investigation has not happened yet but Haaretz knows exactly why the Aid was hit.


Aren't they amazing?

Sorcery could be one way they figured it out.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Israeli Army Sources: Gaza Aid Workers Killed Because 'IDF Officers on the Ground Do What They Want'

The IDF and defense ministry claimed that the aid workers' killing resulted from poor coordination. Israeli army sources later refuted their claims, saying the incident has 'no connection to coordination' and was caused by the fact that 'every commander sets the rules for himself'

The army's killing of seven aid workers in the Gaza Strip on Monday night stemmed from poor discipline among field commanders, not a lack of coordination between the army and aid organizations, army sources said on Tuesday.

They added that the officers and soldiers involved had violated Israel Defense Forces regulations and orders.

The sources accused the IDF's Southern Command of trying to deflect blame for the incident in Deir al-Balah, in which seven employees of World Central Kitchen were killed. A source in the intelligence branch said the command "knows exactly what the cause of the attack was – in Gaza, everyone does as he pleases."

Army regulations say that final approval for any action against sensitive targets like aid organizations must be given by senior officers – the division commander, the head of the command or even the chief of staff. But in Gaza, the source said, "every commander sets the rules for himself" and gives his own interpretation of the rules of engagement.

In this case, it's not yet clear whether the decision to open fire on the aid convoy was sent to senior commanders for approval.
In their official response, the IDF and the Defense Ministry claimed that the aid workers' deaths stemmed from poor coordination between the troops in the field and officials from the aid organizations.

Both Defense Minister Yoav Gallant and IDF Chief of Staff Herzl Halevi publicly promised a comprehensive investigation of the incident. They also decided to open a war room jointly manned by personnel from Southern Command and international aid organizations that will be in charge of liaising with troops in the field.

But coordination between the IDF and the organizations already exists, and liaison officers inform the troops about areas they can't attack because aid workers or a large concentration of civilians are present.

The sources therefore criticized Gallant and Halevi for depicting the incident as stemming from poor coordination, terming this "puzzling."
"It has no connection to coordination," the intelligence branch source said. "You can set up another 20 administrations or war rooms, but if someone doesn't decide to put an end to the conduct of some of the troops inside Gaza, we'll see more incidents like this."

From the moment the war began, the IDF realized the importance of bringing in and distributing aid in Gaza, and this was taken into account when plans for the war were drawn up before the ground operation began. From the earliest days of the fighting, officers were stationed in the field whose job was to liaise between the troops and aid organizations, and also to coordinate the evacuation of civilians from places where fighting was taking place.

These officers, who are with the troops in the field 24 hours a day, were stationed at the command, division and brigade levels, as well as with the teams responsible for missile launches and other attacks. The IDF even publicly showed off the war rooms in charge of this activity more than once.

So the article says, prematurely I think, that the IDF did not order the attack and speculates that some soldier disobeyed orders by attacking the trucks.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Matted Joybeard]

So the article says, prematurely I think, that the IDF did not order the attack and speculates that some soldier disobeyed orders by attacking the trucks.

I wonder if launching a succession of drone strikes comes down to 'one' IDF soldier.

 

[Matted Joybeard]

An anti Israel Israeli source.
You simply do not learn.

You are not against Hamas but you fall for every anti Israel source you not only insist on reading but also believing .

How amazing that the investigation has not happened yet but Haaretz knows exactly why the Aid was hit.


Aren't they amazing?

Sorcery could be one way they figured it out.

Just reporting what the Israeli press is reporting - that has nothing to do with me or whatever caricature you wish to fashion for me or anyone else that wants to take more than a uni-dimensional view of the conflict.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

Just reporting what the Israeli press is reporting - that has nothing to do with me or whatever caricature you wish to fashion for me or anyone else that wants to take more than a uni-dimensional view of the conflict.

An anti Israel Press. Always has been anti Israel. But go ahead and accept Haaretz word without them doing any investigation at all.

No uni dimension. I have the brains to wait for any and all investigations to be concluded. Unlike you.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I wonder if launching a succession of drone strikes comes down to 'one' IDF soldier.

You have a hard time holding your breath for investigations to take place.

Honest people wait for results. Let us see you be honest and wait.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

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