It Is OFFICIAL: Pelosi / 'Shutdown' Party Reject Deal - They Own The Shutdown!

[busybee01]

You are the one who needs to wake up. I am a Christian and any Christian who supports Trump is a fake Christian. It is Trump who is attempting blackmail. Most of the government that is shut down has nothing to do with border security.

Demanding Compromise on gov't issues is part of the Constitution.........The Power of the Purse is part of that system..........Refusing to compromise is the problem. Call it what you like..........but we've already spent and lost more money than requested which is stupidity in motion. Fund better security.......better yet go find the appropriated funds from 2006 that were squandered.............They only spent 2.3 billion on the wall for 10 years........Broken promises..........all for political gain.

improving and adding border walls for CBP that makes their job easier makes sense..............unless you don't want or border secure.....which is exactly what this fight is about.

That is not what this fight is about. This fight is about Trump pleasing his base and telling the other 60% or so people in this country to go to hell.

LOL.

60% are with you...........LOL

Most of Americans want the border secured.......have wanted it for decades..........hell even Billy Boy wanted it way back when........and each time they failed to do anything about it.........

Add E-Verify to the 1986...........and your side is done.............LOL

Voters remain solidly opposed to a wall on the Mexican border, 55 - 43 percent, and reject every argument for the Wall. The 55 - 43 percent opposition compares to 54 - 43 percent opposition in a December 18 survey, just before the partial government shutdown.

American voters are negative in every question about the wall, saying:

• 59 - 40 percent that it is not a good use of taxpayer dollars;
• 55 - 43 percent that the wall would not make the U.S. safer;
• 59 - 40 percent that the wall is not necessary to protect the border;
• 52 percent say the wall is against American values as 41 percent say the wall is consistent with American values.

QU Poll Release Detail

Fake news. If you ask them if they support a "barrier" on the border, then a majority are in favor of it. People who support the wall don't even answer such polls because they know the people conducting it are brain-dead leftwingers who hate anyone who says they support it.

People who say they are against are mostly only mildly against, as if you asked them whether they prefer chocolate or vanilla. They'll say chocolate, but they aren't going to march on Washington if you give them vanilla. On the other hand, the people who support the wall really really really support it. They will march on Washington if Piglosi doesn't give them what Trump is asking.

That is what Trump supporters said about polls showing Democrats having a big lead in the generic voting. It turns out the polls were right. There is no silent majority and you are showing yourself to be the fool.

 

[Lesh]

He's made at least three proposals in good faith to the Democrats,

Yea...Pay the ransom

Pay the ransom

Pay the ransom

There's nothing "good faith" about that

 

[busybee01]

by the way, the president presented a plan for the senate to vote on. Now we will see who votes for Americans or illegals

Racists are not real Americans. Voters do not support a wall.

Sure they do racist fk

You are a foolish racist fk.

 

[easyt65]

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Who gives a f* what you agree with? You are not Speaker...obviously Pelosi is not, based on the fact that she refuses to negotiate, refuses to compromise, and attempts to run from the House and her position as Speaker by trying to flee the country during her shutdown.

The Democrats have tried to overturn the results of the election....now Pelosi is single-handedly trying to block what the American people voted him into office to do.

she is winning because

Pew Research Centre poll released Wednesday reported that 58 per cent of Americans oppose building a border wall; 61 per cent disapprove of the way Trump is handling the shutdown.

she plans to pass a package of House bills that would reopen shuttered government agencies and increase spending on border security - without a wall.

Pelosi refuses to negotiate while issuing ransom demands. Her own Democrats have started negotiating with the GOP on their own because she refuses to...and she just got busted lying in an attempt to stop the SotU address then tried to flee the country during her shutdown...

 

[easyt65]

Demanding Compromise on gov't issues is part of the Constitution.........The Power of the Purse is part of that system..........Refusing to compromise is the problem. Call it what you like..........but we've already spent and lost more money than requested which is stupidity in motion. Fund better security.......better yet go find the appropriated funds from 2006 that were squandered.............They only spent 2.3 billion on the wall for 10 years........Broken promises..........all for political gain.

improving and adding border walls for CBP that makes their job easier makes sense..............unless you don't want or border secure.....which is exactly what this fight is about.

That is not what this fight is about. This fight is about Trump pleasing his base and telling the other 60% or so people in this country to go to hell.

LOL.

60% are with you...........LOL

Most of Americans want the border secured.......have wanted it for decades..........hell even Billy Boy wanted it way back when........and each time they failed to do anything about it.........

Add E-Verify to the 1986...........and your side is done.............LOL

Voters remain solidly opposed to a wall on the Mexican border, 55 - 43 percent, and reject every argument for the Wall. The 55 - 43 percent opposition compares to 54 - 43 percent opposition in a December 18 survey, just before the partial government shutdown.

American voters are negative in every question about the wall, saying:

• 59 - 40 percent that it is not a good use of taxpayer dollars;
• 55 - 43 percent that the wall would not make the U.S. safer;
• 59 - 40 percent that the wall is not necessary to protect the border;
• 52 percent say the wall is against American values as 41 percent say the wall is consistent with American values.

QU Poll Release Detail

Fake news. If you ask them if they support a "barrier" on the border, then a majority are in favor of it. People who support the wall don't even answer such polls because they know the people conducting it are brain-dead leftwingers who hate anyone who says they support it.

People who say they are against are mostly only mildly against, as if you asked them whether they prefer chocolate or vanilla. They'll say chocolate, but they aren't going to march on Washington if you give them vanilla. On the other hand, the people who support the wall really really really support it. They will march on Washington if Piglosi doesn't give them what Trump is asking.

That is what Trump supporters said about polls showing Democrats having a big lead in the generic voting. It turns out the polls were right. There is no silent majority and you are showing yourself to be the fool.

'Landslide'

 

[francoHFW]

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Who gives a f* what you agree with? You are not Speaker...obviously Pelosi is not, based on the fact that she refuses to negotiate, refuses to compromise, and attempts to run from the House and her position as Speaker by trying to flee the country during her shutdown.

The Democrats have tried to overturn the results of the election....now Pelosi is single-handedly trying to block what the American people voted him into office to do.

When you don't have the votes even in your own party, you can't have a temper tantrum and screw people for nothing.

 

[candycorn]

The shutdown today: Trump lashes out after Dems reject offer

The 'hostage crisis' is all on Pelosi After she walked away from DACA...again...

No. Again, Trump said he was responsible on 12/11/18

It's going to come to a point where that won't matter. He's made at least three proposals in good faith to the Democrats, and they rejected all of them. Including this one. Trump is making all the offers here. Democrats are sitting there throwing a tantrum because the government isn't open for them to take advantage of.

It's like this: Do you want DACA or not? Or is your so called compassion for those illegals just a front in your resistance to Trump? He's offered amnesty, deportation protections, extensions...for MILLIONS of people in the country illegally. Basically things you leftists get off on. When they become aware of those proposals, and the Democrats' obstinance, who do you think will own the shutdown then?

It won't be Trump. You can't act in good faith if you are always saying no. In fact, he had Democrats saying no before he even gave the address yesterday.

Trump walked out of the last face to face meeting. It’s on him x 2

 

[easyt65]

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Who gives a f* what you agree with? You are not Speaker...obviously Pelosi is not, based on the fact that she refuses to negotiate, refuses to compromise, and attempts to run from the House and her position as Speaker by trying to flee the country during her shutdown.

The Democrats have tried to overturn the results of the election....now Pelosi is single-handedly trying to block what the American people voted him into office to do.

When you don't have the votes even in your own party, you can't have a temper tantrum and screw people for nothing.

When you get caught lying, when your own Democrats start breaking from you, you try to flee the country and walk away from DACA...

 

[busybee01]

The next move is a public proposal by the Democrats otherwise they are sitting on the issue.

They have made their proposal clear. Open the government and then we will talk. Americans overwhelmingly agree with that.

You’re a true idiot if you think the Dems will “talk” once the government reopens.

You are a idiot if you think Trump will be re-elected after this fiasco. Voters do not want a wall.

He will be reelected. History shows that shutdowns don't harm the reelection odds for Republicans. In fact, it enhances them. The only people are going to hold it against Trump are the government workers, and they are all Democrats anyway.

History does not show that. The Gingrich shutdown was the longest on record until the Trump shutdown came along. Clinton's numbers were sagging until the shutdown. Voters blamed Republicans for the shutdown and Clinton's approvals started rising and resulted in a easy re-election.

 

[Slyhunter]

The next move is a public proposal by the Democrats otherwise they are sitting on the issue.

They have made their proposal clear. Open the government and then we will talk. Americans overwhelmingly agree with that.

You’re a true idiot if you think the Dems will “talk” once the government reopens.

You are a idiot if you think Trump will be re-elected after this fiasco. Voters do not want a wall.

The voters that voted for Trump wants the damn wall!!!!!!!

 

[busybee01]

Voters disagree with Trump, DHS, Border Patrol and Obama's handpicked Border Patrol Chief snowflake.

Ummmm....Trump won the WH with the promise of a wall...
They voted him in because they agreed.

You are as believable as Pelosi and her lie about the DHS / Secret Service....

No they did not. Trump was elected because he was the least worst of the two candidates. If he was voted in because of the wall, Republicans would have retained the House instead of losing it to Democrats and Republicans would have won at least 5 or more seats. They only picked up 2 in a map that heavily favored them.

What did Trump tell his supporters at every campaign rally? And what was their response?

A quarter of the voters voted for their candidate because they were voting against the other candidate. That is where Trump won. Trump tried to make immigration a major issue in the midterms and resulted in a 40 seat loss for Republicans and only a 2 seat gain in the Senate despite a very favorable map.

 

[busybee01]

No they did not. Trump was elected because he was the least worst of the two candidates.

It was nice of you to admit Hillary was detestable...but even Pelosi has admitted denying Trump this win would hurt his re-election because he promised the wall.

What color is the grass in your world / bubble?

It would hurt him among his white supremacist base such as David Duke. Voters are opposed to a wall and rejected it in the midterms.

 

[beagle9]

Trump is the partisan who is holding Americans hostage so he can please his base.

Pelosi told Trump even if he gave he opened the govt, even if he gave her what she wanted, she would not negotiate / compromise.

Pelosi's own Democrats have openly met with the GOP, breaking from Pelosi...some have said they would vote for a compromise if given the chance.

Pelosi just got busted lying her ass to kill the SotU speech...then got busted / denied military airlift trying to skip out of the country during her shutdown.

'Trump is the partisan who is holding Americans hostage...'

I agree with her 100% we do not need a wall.

Several Republicans have openly said they do not need a wall.

Pelosi got busted for nothing. She is right in saying the SOTU speech should be postponed. She was going to meet the troops. That is horrible.

Going to try and brainwash the troops or feed them some more Democrat propaganda is more like it.

 

[busybee01]

The fact is that voters oppose a wall...

YOU LIE...unless you if ore the polls, articles, and evidence to the contrary.

That was Trump's closing arguments in the midterms and led to a 40 seat gain for Democrats in the House and a smaller than expected gain in the Senate. YOU ARE THE LIAR WHO IGNORES COLD HARD FACTS.

About half the 40 seat gain was the result of voter/election fraud.

Voter/election fraud to you is people voting and having their votes counted.

No, it's when votes appear out of thin air days or even weeks after the election. It's when you have more votes than registered voters in a precinct.

So much bullshit. Votes did not materialize after election day. They where mailed on or before election day which is fair. Also the large number of votes that were cast took time to count.

 

[easyt65]

Voters disagree with Trump, DHS, Border Patrol and Obama's handpicked Border Patrol Chief snowflake.

Ummmm....Trump won the WH with the promise of a wall...
They voted him in because they agreed.

You are as believable as Pelosi and her lie about the DHS / Secret Service....

No they did not. Trump was elected because he was the least worst of the two candidates. If he was voted in because of the wall, Republicans would have retained the House instead of losing it to Democrats and Republicans would have won at least 5 or more seats. They only picked up 2 in a map that heavily favored them.

What did Trump tell his supporters at every campaign rally? And what was their response?

A quarter of the voters voted for their candidate because they were voting against the other candidate. That is where Trump won. Trump tried to make immigration a major issue in the midterms and resulted in a 40 seat loss for Republicans and only a 2 seat gain in the Senate despite a very favorable map.

Trump won because Hillary is a criminal piece of shit & because Trump promised to secure the border with a wall, not run Sanctuary Cities like Hillary & the Democrats.

 

[beagle9]

No they did not. Trump was elected because he was the least worst of the two candidates.

It was nice of you to admit Hillary was detestable...but even Pelosi has admitted denying Trump this win would hurt his re-election because he promised the wall.

What color is the grass in your world / bubble?

It would hurt him among his white supremacist base such as David Duke. Voters are opposed to a wall and rejected it in the midterms.

Things change as issues get worse, and the illegals killing American's is s bad as it gets.

 

[easyt65]

So much bullshit. Votes did not materialize after election day.

You lie - 2 words:

'Broward County'

 

[bripat9643]

Pelosi passed legislation to reopen government

Trump rejected it

Legislation that gave the President nothing. Only a shit-for-brains like you believes that's a meaningful legislation. What ever happened to compromise? Isn't that what dolts like you are always bleating about?

You are the ones who have shit for brains. That was a compromise. Just because Trump wants something does not mean he automatically gets it. That is not what compromise means.

What is your idea of "compromise?"

My compromise has no money for the wall.

Thanks for proving that you don't know the meaning of "compromise."

 

[bripat9643]

So much bullshit. Votes did not materialize after election day.

You lie - 2 words:

'Broward County'

That was far from the only place where that happened.

 

[busybee01]

Voter/election fraud to you is people voting and having their votes counted.

Voter / election fraud is Democrats allowing illegals to vote, like they did in Broward county.

Election fraud is Hillary and the Democrats rigging primarirs, cheating in debates, violating campaign finance laws, keeping Hillary out of prison to keep her in the race, and finally giving her the nomination she could not win.

There is not 1 bit of evidence illegals voted in Broward County. You are a lying weasel.

Hillary Clinton got 54% of the votes to 42% for Sanders. How does she not get the nomination. You keep repeating that urban myth but you have not offered 1 bit of evidence. How was SC rigged so Clinton got 75% to 25% for Sanders. How was Mississippi rigged so that Clinton got 81% and Sanders got 19%. If these were Republican rules, Sanders would have been eliminated even earlier.

Trump violated campaign finance rules by paying off women to keep quiet about hush money they received.

The IG found nothing wrong with the decision that Comey made. He found no evidence of political bias.