It takes a government to raise a child...

Very true

We the People elect a government to do the things that are better performed as a society than as an individual

We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
One of the greatest lines from any speech given by an American president was the final line from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

"... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Lincoln was a Republican and I firmly believe that he fervently believed those words. Now consider the republicans of today. Clearly they do not believe or accept much of what Lincoln is saying.
They do not approve of "government of the people." If they did so they would be working to increase the number of people who vote. Yet, in most states with republican governors they are putting in place laws that will take the vote away from minorities, college students, and the elderly. They hide this theft behind a curtain of working to curtail voter fraud but when asked to prove voter fraud exists they have little to no proof.
Further, republicans clearly do not approve of a government "... for the people...." If they did approve of government for the people they would work toward getting ALL Americans health care. They would work toward making sure no Americans would go to bed hungry. And finally, the would work to reward veterans for all their sacrifices.
Why anyone would want to be a member of this sick group of anti-American liars and cheats I do not know. I sometimes think that republicans are God's curse on America.

So you're channeling Lincoln and speaking for him.
God, I'm in awe at how smart Democrats are. :eusa_whistle:
 
We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
Yes we do

"And we are much stronger as part of a society than as a bunch of individuals"

Mao, Kim, and Fidel would be proud of your statement. Put the Collective above the Individual. How has that worked out?

We have a society of 300 million. We are much stronger as one great nation than thousands of smaller fiefdoms
 
We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
Yes we do

And we are much stronger as part of a society than as a bunch of individuals

Depends on the members of the society.

Ideally, everyone does their part and we all chip in to have things, like fire depts., that benefit us all.

In reality, not everyone does their part and more and more some are placing additional burden on the other members of society by continuing to have more kids out of wedlock and disrespecting society in general. Government takes more and more from the same people to keep things going. It sucks.

Yea...I guess no society is perfect

But I will take our society over any one on earth
 
Some take that education and go on to higher learning and become productive members of society.
The rest don't and blame the world for their lot in life and expect government to take care of them because it's owed to them...
 
Some take that education and go on to higher learning and become productive members of society.
The rest don't and blame the world for their lot in life and expect government to take care of them because it's owed to them...

Yea, I guess that is true

But sometimes even the rich kids fuck up their education. But for some odd reason they seem to make out alright
 
Very true

We the People elect a government to do the things that are better performed as a society than as an individual

We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
One of the greatest lines from any speech given by an American president was the final line from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

"... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Lincoln was a Republican and I firmly believe that he fervently believed those words. Now consider the republicans of today. Clearly they do not believe or accept much of what Lincoln is saying.
They do not approve of "government of the people." If they did so they would be working to increase the number of people who vote. Yet, in most states with republican governors they are putting in place laws that will take the vote away from minorities, college students, and the elderly. They hide this theft behind a curtain of working to curtail voter fraud but when asked to prove voter fraud exists they have little to no proof.
Further, republicans clearly do not approve of a government "... for the people...." If they did approve of government for the people they would work toward getting ALL Americans health care. They would work toward making sure no Americans would go to bed hungry. And finally, the would work to reward veterans for all their sacrifices.
Why anyone would want to be a member of this sick group of anti-American liars and cheats I do not know. I sometimes think that republicans are God's curse on America.

Your post is so far from reality, it's ridiculous.

You are going with the lame talking points about minorities being unable to obtain ID because they are just so stupid and helpless.

Helping legitimate citizens get a photo ID is fairly simple, might even be easier than finding them and registering them to vote, the way ACORN does.

If you think Obamacare is a sign of government by the people, for the people, I am guessing you live in Colorado and are taking advantage of the new law.

More people are without insurance now than before Obamacare got shoved through. Nary a word from Democrats showing they care about that, just Reid's amazingly stupid comment accusing people of lying. They are so damn desperate to make people believe it working that they'll insult half the country. Explains the dismal approval ratings.

Republicans have always been better to the military than Dems. Of course, Obama and his ilk have decided to decrease veteran's benefits so they can do more for illegal aliens. You know, those people that are not part of 'we the people' of the United States?

Our founding fathers believed that people would cherish the opportunity to be free and to make a good life for themselves. They came from countries that were the opposite of us. Now, so many take our freedoms for granted and the left does everything in their power to make us more like the countries our forefathers ran from. Sadly, there will be no place left to run.

Government has tried to help raise our children by making more rules in schools and everywhere else. They have stolen money to take care of children, as they seek to replace real fathers. It's gotten us higher drop out rates, higher crime, increased drug use, more gangs, more people in poverty and a dumbed down population. Politicians lie, cheat, spin and otherwise are full of bullshit. Hardly a good role model for any child.
 
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We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
One of the greatest lines from any speech given by an American president was the final line from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

"... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Lincoln was a Republican and I firmly believe that he fervently believed those words. Now consider the republicans of today. Clearly they do not believe or accept much of what Lincoln is saying.
They do not approve of "government of the people." If they did so they would be working to increase the number of people who vote. Yet, in most states with republican governors they are putting in place laws that will take the vote away from minorities, college students, and the elderly. They hide this theft behind a curtain of working to curtail voter fraud but when asked to prove voter fraud exists they have little to no proof.
Further, republicans clearly do not approve of a government "... for the people...." If they did approve of government for the people they would work toward getting ALL Americans health care. They would work toward making sure no Americans would go to bed hungry. And finally, the would work to reward veterans for all their sacrifices.
Why anyone would want to be a member of this sick group of anti-American liars and cheats I do not know. I sometimes think that republicans are God's curse on America.

So you're channeling Lincoln and speaking for him.
God, I'm in awe at how smart Democrats are. :eusa_whistle:
I am neither channeling him nor speaking for him. I am pointing out that the republicans of today are a sorry group compared to the person who started the republican party.
And as for my feelings about the republican party, I am totally amazed at lack of intelligence and morals of what is left of the republican party.
When a ship sinks it is the rats who leave first. As the republican party sinks it is the rats who have stayed behind.
 
Very true

We the People elect a government to do the things that are better performed as a society than as an individual

We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
One of the greatest lines from any speech given by an American president was the final line from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

"... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Lincoln was a Republican and I firmly believe that he fervently believed those words. Now consider the republicans of today. Clearly they do not believe or accept much of what Lincoln is saying.
They do not approve of "government of the people." If they did so they would be working to increase the number of people who vote. Yet, in most states with republican governors they are putting in place laws that will take the vote away from minorities, college students, and the elderly. They hide this theft behind a curtain of working to curtail voter fraud but when asked to prove voter fraud exists they have little to no proof.
Further, republicans clearly do not approve of a government "... for the people...." If they did approve of government for the people they would work toward getting ALL Americans health care. They would work toward making sure no Americans would go to bed hungry. And finally, the would work to reward veterans for all their sacrifices.
Why anyone would want to be a member of this sick group of anti-American liars and cheats I do not know. I sometimes think that republicans are God's curse on America.

Very true

The Republicans want to restrict voting to the maximum extent possible. But more troubling is Lincoln's concept of a Government for the people. Republicans on ths board fight it on a daily basis. The Government has no Constitutional right to do things FOR the people. It is what Republicans call socialism
 
We the People elect a government to serve the People and protect the individual. It is why America was founded and why Immigrants want to come here.
One of the greatest lines from any speech given by an American president was the final line from Lincoln's Gettysburg Address.

"... government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

Lincoln was a Republican and I firmly believe that he fervently believed those words. Now consider the republicans of today. Clearly they do not believe or accept much of what Lincoln is saying.
They do not approve of "government of the people." If they did so they would be working to increase the number of people who vote. Yet, in most states with republican governors they are putting in place laws that will take the vote away from minorities, college students, and the elderly. They hide this theft behind a curtain of working to curtail voter fraud but when asked to prove voter fraud exists they have little to no proof.
Further, republicans clearly do not approve of a government "... for the people...." If they did approve of government for the people they would work toward getting ALL Americans health care. They would work toward making sure no Americans would go to bed hungry. And finally, the would work to reward veterans for all their sacrifices.
Why anyone would want to be a member of this sick group of anti-American liars and cheats I do not know. I sometimes think that republicans are God's curse on America.

Your post is so far from reality, it's ridiculous.

You are going with the lame talking points about minorities being unable to obtain ID because they are just so stupid and helpless. As there is little to no proof of voter fraud why are minorities and others being made to jump through republican hoops? You are trying to solve a problem that does not exist and in the process taking the vote away from those who will have a difficult time obtaining the necessary I.D.

Helping legitimate citizens get a photo ID is fairly simple, might even be easier than finding them and registering them to vote, the way ACORN does.
Acorn has not existed since 2010 thanks to the republican party who do not want to see certain segments of the population vote.
If you think Obamacare is a sign of government by the people, for the people, I am guessing you live in Colorado and are taking advantage of the new law. In the last election Obama won 332 to Romney's 206. That seems to say that the people wanted Obama much more than they wanted Romney. The people won and the gop lost. Rather than looking at why they were rejected the gop has decided to take the vote away from as many potential Democrat voters as possible.

More people are without insurance now than before Obamacare got shoved through. Nary a word from Democrats showing they care about that, just Reid's amazingly stupid comment accusing people of lying. They are so damn desperate to make people believe it working that they'll insult half the country. Explains the dismal approval ratings.
Many of those who lost insurance lost it because it was "garbage insurance." It was an illusion. It covered almost nothing and left people with huge bills which they were unable to pay. It was worse the nothing. How terrible is it to try to get people to have decent insurance that really protects them rather than giving the illusion of protecting them.
Republicans have always been better to the military than Dems. Of course, Obama and his ilk have decided to decrease veteran's benefits so they can do more for illegal aliens. You know, those people that are not part of 'we the people' of the United States?
"Republicans have always been better to the military than Dems" Strange you should say this on the very day that republicans voted not to increase funding for veterans. More and more the members of the military are realizing that the gop is all talk and that they have little concern for those who defend this country. In fact, if I recall correctly donations from the military for Obama were double or triple McCain's. Seems the military is beginning to see who wants them in one war after another and who then does not want to pay people for their sacrifices.
.Our founding fathers believed that people would cherish the opportunity to be free and to make a good life for themselves. They came from countries that were the opposite of us. Now, so many take our freedoms for granted and the left does everything in their power to make us more like the countries our forefathers ran from. Sadly, there will be no place left to run.
Our founding fathers also felt that the government should work toward making the lives of American citizens better. Read the Preamble of the Constitution and than ask yourself what does it mean when it says "...to promote the general welfare ...." Somehow the republicans seem to ignore that part of the Constitution.

Government has tried to help raise our children by making more rules in schools and everywhere else. They have stolen money to take care of children, as they seek to replace real fathers. It's gotten us higher drop out rates, higher crime, increased drug use, more gangs, more people in poverty and a dumbed down population. Politicians lie, cheat, spin and otherwise are full of bullshit. Hardly a good role model for any child.
Yet you are supporting the gop which is one of the worst offenders when it comes to lying, cheating, spinning, and stealing from the people.
 
Nothing is free...
Government is paid for by the people...
And they work for us...
Not the other way around..

Government workers don't work for us, they work for the government which provides services for us. Try and get a grip on reality, will ya?
Do you work at being that wrong?

What city and state in the United States of America do you live so I can post links to your police and fire departments?
 

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