It's hard to believe that Putin is being blamed for Hillary losing. Wow.

[Care4all]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Yeah right... So how did the democrats lose bad in 2010 and 2014?


.

Yes, the Democrats took a beating in midterm elections of 2010 and 2014....that was when republican voters still were giving their congress critters and senators a chance....but the R's FAILED, and that's why the citizen party members voted for Trump in this last primary instead of establishment candidates, and that is also why the Republicans LOST SEATS to the Democrats in the US Congress in 2016, and the Republicans LOST SEATS to the Democrats in the US Senate as well, in 2016...eventually, what goes around, comes around, I suppose...

 

[frigidweirdo]

If we were a strong willed nation, and we were united as we should be, and we weren't fighting so bad amongst ourselves, and we weren't trying to use this nation as a pin cushion for liberal social engineering, and worse if we didn't have so many traitors amongst the growing ranks of traitorous activities in this nation now, then there would be no fear of any one influencing this nations elections ever.

The very fact that Hollywood and the leftist libs / Demon-crats think that they can convince us all that we should listen to them say that we have been duped (as if we are to dam stupid to think for ourselves), should send shockwaves through any responsible voter in this nation now. These people trying to control the outcome of this election in the way that they have been engaged in for quite sometime now, makes Putin look like an American friend upside of these traitors. Alright Americans, it's time to take your independence back, and don't let these people make you think you are so dumb that they have to do the thinking for you. That should be over now, so let's move on towards a more prosperous, united America.

Ah, the old "there are problems and they're all caused by the left" argument.......

. At this time in history you dang straight it's the left being malicious and traitorous towards our system and our new president. I heard someone say Obama still has 19 days left, and I thought so what are they saying that for, otherwise in the context in which they were using it in right ??? Then it hit me... Otherwise they were basically saying that he had 19 more days of disrupting, scheming, lying, manipulating, and thinking about how him and Hillary can still save face in all this. It really shows how corrupt Washington really is, and the bad people who have occupied Washington for quite sometime now, and for whom are within it still.

Oh come on, this is just partisan bullshit coming out of your mouth. The US is sliding down into obscurity because both sides are at each others' throats and nothing is working properly.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Roger Stone, had Assange drop on wikileaks the Podesta emails stolen by the Russians or Trump campaign if you don't believe it was the Russians and Roger Stone had it done on behalf of Trump, the same DAY the Access Hollywood tape of Trump claiming he could grab any beautiful woman's pussy and get away with it, because he was a Star...

the next 25 rallies that Trump had, he mentioned the wikileaks over and over and over again, which made all the main stream media coverage. ALONG with every single day Briebart and Drudge and FOX with a new wilileaks article that would metastasize in all of the thousands of right wing media sites and facebook placements.

IT CERTAINLY could have affected the election, or the felony theft would never had been done.

Roger Stone, had Assange drop on wikileaks the Podesta emails stolen by the Russians or Trump campaign if you don't believe it was the Russians

What damaging info was released by the hackers?

It didn't matter nothing was truly damaging or even real....the blogosphere and right wing media such as FOX, Briebart, Drudge, the New York Post, the Guardian made it ALL out to be.... and Trump Primarily USED IT Daily in all of his rally rants and tweets and distorted what was actually found and made it in to another "Lock Her Up" situation....

It was dumped on to the net, the precise time that was needed for Trump, to draw the talk away from donald trump's access hollywood video or at least deter from the story of Trump's tape....that he could use in his rallies and on every talk show with his surrogates when they brought up Trump's grabbing pussy comment they went on and changed the subject to talk about the wikileaks of Podesta emails....

And spun out of the Podesta emails were all of these made up conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and pedophilia....and Clinton cash etc...

It didn't matter nothing was truly damaging or even real....

So the hack didn't impact the election....good to know.

 

[beagle9]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Yeah right... So how did the democrats lose bad in 2010 and 2014?


.

Yes, the Democrats took a beating in midterm elections of 2010 and 2014....that was when republican voters still were giving their congress critters and senators a chance....but the R's FAILED, and that's why the citizen party members voted for Trump in this last primary instead of establishment candidates, and that is also why the Republicans LOST SEATS to the Democrats in the US Congress in 2016, and the Republicans LOST SEATS to the Democrats in the US Senate as well, in 2016...eventually, what goes around, comes around, I suppose...

. Yes, no one claims that there isn't or wasn't problems within both parties over the past years, and now it all has come to fruition. It's why I find it hard to believe that when we get a candidate like Trump, that he isn't supported to the max. The establishment fighting him on both sides should embolden the American voter even more so... The failures of the parties should have most voters on board with a solution that doesn't include the establishment completely, but supports the ones who are vetting the ones who will seek to work for the Americans again. That person is Trump and his crew who is doing the vetting now, and let's hope that he and them do a great job of it.

 

[Care4all]

Roger Stone, had Assange drop on wikileaks the Podesta emails stolen by the Russians or Trump campaign if you don't believe it was the Russians and Roger Stone had it done on behalf of Trump, the same DAY the Access Hollywood tape of Trump claiming he could grab any beautiful woman's pussy and get away with it, because he was a Star...

the next 25 rallies that Trump had, he mentioned the wikileaks over and over and over again, which made all the main stream media coverage. ALONG with every single day Briebart and Drudge and FOX with a new wilileaks article that would metastasize in all of the thousands of right wing media sites and facebook placements.

IT CERTAINLY could have affected the election, or the felony theft would never had been done.

Roger Stone, had Assange drop on wikileaks the Podesta emails stolen by the Russians or Trump campaign if you don't believe it was the Russians

What damaging info was released by the hackers?

It didn't matter nothing was truly damaging or even real....the blogosphere and right wing media such as FOX, Briebart, Drudge, the New York Post, the Guardian made it ALL out to be.... and Trump Primarily USED IT Daily in all of his rally rants and tweets and distorted what was actually found and made it in to another "Lock Her Up" situation....

It was dumped on to the net, the precise time that was needed for Trump, to draw the talk away from donald trump's access hollywood video or at least deter from the story of Trump's tape....that he could use in his rallies and on every talk show with his surrogates when they brought up Trump's grabbing pussy comment they went on and changed the subject to talk about the wikileaks of Podesta emails....

And spun out of the Podesta emails were all of these made up conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and pedophilia....and Clinton cash etc...

It didn't matter nothing was truly damaging or even real....

So the hack didn't impact the election....good to know.

Well, it may not have mattered THAT much, but it was certainly one of the spokes in the wheel of misfortunes and calamities that her campaign had to go through.

The DNC wikileaks, near the end of the Primary, probably hurt her campaign the most.

Yes, Bernie Sanders tried to laugh it off, and made no big deal out of it, basically saying he was so thankful that his campaign's emails were not hacked and read by the public on wikileaks, and implied he was certain there was stuff in there he didn't want the Clinton campaign or the public to know as well!

but the leak itself, and the intensity of the Right wing media outlets posting every little thing, making them out to be the worst things evah! that spread like lightening through social media and then the focus of the right wing USING THIS to promote as much controversy as possible between the Bernie supporters and Hillary, was so INTENSE and mostly promoted by Right wingers who couldn't give a rat's ass about Bernie.

Well, there is no doubt that the illegal hacking and distribution of the stolen emails by wikileaks, and the dropping of these emails to the public at the precise time in the primary that would hurt Hillary the most.....

Put many Bernie supporters on a path to revenge and that came from the STOLEN private emails and timing of the drop in the primary.

And that REVENGE ended with devout Bernie people staying home or voting Green etc, or even voting Trump.

The Podesta emails may not have been that harmful, they were more of a useful tool for the Trump campaign to use to change the topic off of him and the Access Hollywood tapes, but if the DNC emails allegedly stolen by the Russians and dumped in the public by wikileaks during the primary and right after, had not taken place, I think it would be a pretty solid bet, that Hillary Clinton, would be Madam President....

so, there is a good chance that the election WAS INFLUENCED by the Russians, and those involved with the emails being leaked and with their strategic timing very likely were factors....

I am not trying to diminish many other things that happened that were factors in diminishing her 11 point lead over him... her ''half of his supporters are a basket of deplorable(s)" comment was a factor, Bill meeting the attorney gen on the tarmac was a factor, however her 3 debate wins according to the polling pulled her out of those holes that were dug...

The congress critters that ran to the Press and leaked that Comey was requesting to reopen the Clinton email case definitely, without any doubt, was a factor.... and was part in putting a halt to her rising tide...

Then the Podesta emails and the lies spun from them, and the tool for the rightwing and Trump to use...

But all in all, if I were to commit to one thing and one thing only that had a pretty good certainty that changed the result of this election, I would have to say the DNC Leaks and how they were used by the right wing, including on this very site, to enrage Bernie supporters, in to basically an "I'll show you!" And not voting at all...

AND THAT ABOVE was due to the Russian hackers and then timed releasing....the so called, Russian Influence.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Yeah right... So how did the democrats lose bad in 2010 and 2014?


.

Yes, the Democrats took a beating in midterm elections of 2010 and 2014....that was when republican voters still were giving their congress critters and senators a chance....but the R's FAILED, and that's why the citizen party members voted for Trump in this last primary instead of establishment candidates, and that is also why the Republicans LOST SEATS to the Democrats in the US Congress in 2016, and the Republicans LOST SEATS to the Democrats in the US Senate as well, in 2016...eventually, what goes around, comes around, I suppose...

Seriously?


Seriously ?


Seriously ?


No wonder the Democrats lost even their voters are out of touch..

 

[AvgGuyIA]

If Putin wanted to keep Hillary Clinton out of the Presidency, he'd have to get in line behind the American people. We already had our issues with her. It wasn't the dirty tricks she played in the DNC to keep Bernie down.

 

[Penelope]

The election was rigged, since when do you not believe your man. The only truth came out of his mouth , and you can't recognize it. Yet you believed all his lies.

 

[Claudette]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Nope. Hillary was a lousy candidate. Biden would have been much better.

Hillary cooked her own goose with her baggage. She thought she had to election in the bag and didn't really think she had to pursue anything.

Trump got his message out and the voters responded. He won. Hillary lost.

If you don't like it then its tough shit for you.

 

[Penelope]

The FBI and CIA say you are wrong. You are on silent ignore for this thread, because your ignorant opinion does not count.

I haven't seen any proof that Russian agents stuffed ballot boxes or hacked voting machines. Until I do, this whole discussion is a waste of time.

No one is saying he stuffed ballot boxes or hacked the machines, Wiki leaks hurt Clinton, and Comey as well.
I am saying the Pubs in Mi miscounted on purpose.

 

[Penelope]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Nope. Hillary was a lousy candidate. Biden would have been much better.

Hillary cooked her own goose with her baggage. She thought she had to election in the bag and didn't really think she had to pursue anything.

Trump got his message out and the voters responded. He won. Hillary lost.

If you don't like it then its tough shit for you.

Give it a few months and you will not like it either.

 

[Claudette]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Nope. Hillary was a lousy candidate. Biden would have been much better.

Hillary cooked her own goose with her baggage. She thought she had to election in the bag and didn't really think she had to pursue anything.

Trump got his message out and the voters responded. He won. Hillary lost.

If you don't like it then its tough shit for you.

Give it a few months and you will not like it either.

Oh I think I will love it and if you are honest so will you.

 

[Auld Phart]

The FBI and CIA say you are wrong. You are on silent ignore for this thread, because your ignorant opinion does not count.

I haven't seen any proof that Russian agents stuffed ballot boxes or hacked voting machines. Until I do, this whole discussion is a waste of time.

No one is saying he stuffed ballot boxes or hacked the machines, Wiki leaks hurt Clinton, and Comey as well.
I am saying the Pubs in Mi miscounted on purpose.

Wiki leaks hurt Clinton, and Comey as well.

truth will do that

I am saying the Pubs in Mi miscounted on purpose.

anything to back you up, or do you have a reason they would have done that?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

WikiLeaks and Comey didn't put an illegally used server in Hillary's basement nor did they write the emails between DNC staffers.

She lost because she sucked and the People were fed up with Democrat rule. The voters in uber-liberal states like New York and California do not represent the will of the American people. There are Americans living in the middle of the country. Hard to imagine, I know.

Grow the fuck up,

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Thank you Uncle Vlad for defeating St Hillary the Inevitable.

He saved the Republic as much as Lafayette saved our Founders

Don't feed their paranoia, Frank. LOL

 

[theHawk]

Trump won by a scant amount of votes so yes the wiki leaks and Comey are at fault.

Which in turn is the fault of Dems' unethical activities as well as getting caught with their asses hanging out when it comes to email security.

 

[theHawk]

If we were a strong willed nation, and we were united as we should be, and we weren't fighting so bad amongst ourselves, and we weren't trying to use this nation as a pin cushion for liberal social engineering, and worse if we didn't have so many traitors amongst the growing ranks of traitorous activities in this nation now, then there would be no fear of any one influencing this nations elections ever.

The very fact that Hollywood and the leftist libs / Demon-crats think that they can convince us all that we should listen to them say that we have been duped (as if we are to dam stupid to think for ourselves), should send shockwaves through any responsible voter in this nation now. These people trying to control the outcome of this election in the way that they have been engaged in for quite sometime now, makes Putin look like an American friend upside of these traitors. Alright Americans, it's time to take your independence back, and don't let these people make you think you are so dumb that they have to do the thinking for you. That should be over now, so let's move on towards a more prosperous, united America.

It's actually a good thing that progressives haven't learning anything from this election. As long as they continue to blame outside forces like "Russian interference" or "fake news", they won't accept responsibility for their own loss. That means they will continue believing there is nothing wrong with their agenda, and they will keep pushing the same bullshit: pro-Islam, anti-Christian, anti-white, for businesses moving jobs overseas to China, for higher debt, pro-abortion, and pro-homosexual deviants. The more left they keep going, the more future votes they will lose.

 

[RealDave]

If we were a strong willed nation, and we were united as we should be, and we weren't fighting so bad amongst ourselves, and we weren't trying to use this nation as a pin cushion for liberal social engineering, and worse if we didn't have so many traitors amongst the growing ranks of traitorous activities in this nation now, then there would be no fear of any one influencing this nations elections ever.

The very fact that Hollywood and the leftist libs / Demon-crats think that they can convince us all that we should listen to them say that we have been duped (as if we are to dam stupid to think for ourselves), should send shockwaves through any responsible voter in this nation now. These people trying to control the outcome of this election in the way that they have been engaged in for quite sometime now, makes Putin look like an American friend upside of these traitors. Alright Americans, it's time to take your independence back, and don't let these people make you think you are so dumb that they have to do the thinking for you. That should be over now, so let's move on towards a more prosperous, united America.

Who knew that supporting Russian interference in our election is really patriotism?

All this crap from a person who was duped by a giant orange con man.

 

[August West]

If we were a strong willed nation, and we were united as we should be, and we weren't fighting so bad amongst ourselves, and we weren't trying to use this nation as a pin cushion for liberal social engineering, and worse if we didn't have so many traitors amongst the growing ranks of traitorous activities in this nation now, then there would be no fear of any one influencing this nations elections ever.

The very fact that Hollywood and the leftist libs / Demon-crats think that they can convince us all that we should listen to them say that we have been duped (as if we are to dam stupid to think for ourselves), should send shockwaves through any responsible voter in this nation now. These people trying to control the outcome of this election in the way that they have been engaged in for quite sometime now, makes Putin look like an American friend upside of these traitors. Alright Americans, it's time to take your independence back, and don't let these people make you think you are so dumb that they have to do the thinking for you. That should be over now, so let's move on towards a more prosperous, united America.

It's actually a good thing that progressives haven't learning anything from this election. As long as they continue to blame outside forces like "Russian interference" or "fake news", they won't accept responsibility for their own loss. That means they will continue believing there is nothing wrong with their agenda, and they will keep pushing the same bullshit: pro-Islam, anti-Christian, anti-white, for businesses moving jobs overseas to China, for higher debt, pro-abortion, and pro-homosexual deviants. The more left they keep going, the more future votes they will lose.

Progressives need to learn a lesson because their candidate only had 2.6 million more votes than the Klan`s candidate? WTF?

 

[Auld Phart]

If we were a strong willed nation, and we were united as we should be, and we weren't fighting so bad amongst ourselves, and we weren't trying to use this nation as a pin cushion for liberal social engineering, and worse if we didn't have so many traitors amongst the growing ranks of traitorous activities in this nation now, then there would be no fear of any one influencing this nations elections ever.

The very fact that Hollywood and the leftist libs / Demon-crats think that they can convince us all that we should listen to them say that we have been duped (as if we are to dam stupid to think for ourselves), should send shockwaves through any responsible voter in this nation now. These people trying to control the outcome of this election in the way that they have been engaged in for quite sometime now, makes Putin look like an American friend upside of these traitors. Alright Americans, it's time to take your independence back, and don't let these people make you think you are so dumb that they have to do the thinking for you. That should be over now, so let's move on towards a more prosperous, united America.

It's actually a good thing that progressives haven't learning anything from this election. As long as they continue to blame outside forces like "Russian interference" or "fake news", they won't accept responsibility for their own loss. That means they will continue believing there is nothing wrong with their agenda, and they will keep pushing the same bullshit: pro-Islam, anti-Christian, anti-white, for businesses moving jobs overseas to China, for higher debt, pro-abortion, and pro-homosexual deviants. The more left they keep going, the more future votes they will lose.

Progressives need to learn a lesson because their candidate only had 2.6 million more votes than the Klan`s candidate? WTF?

Yes

They need to learn that the electoral vote wins the presidency, not the popular vote.