It's Over. The Vaccines Have Failed.

[Redfish]

It is a simple thing, if you do not wish to get the vaccine, then do not. But do not think it is your place to tell others they should not.

Let each make their own decision

would that also apply to mask mandates, vax cards to enter a sporting event? or to get on a plane? the hypocrisy of the left is amazing. you say if you don't want the vax don't get it, then in the same breath say but if you don't get it you cannot have the freedom to do anything or go anywhere. What country is this?

 

[Redfish]

You have been spreading lies and misinformation about COVID since the outbreak began

You opposed masks, social distancing and mocked those who practiced it
You encouraged people not to vaccinate and spread lies and mistruths about its safety

You are, without doubt, a despicable person who celebrates and contributes to the million people dying of COVID

right, anyone who disagrees with the leftist cult is to be denigrated and excommunicated from life in the USA. why do you want to live in a socialist dictatorship?

 

[JoeB131]

would that also apply to mask mandates, vax cards to enter a sporting event? or to get on a plane? the hypocrisy of the left is amazing. you say if you don't want the vax don't get it, then in the same breath say but if you don't get it you cannot have the freedom to do anything or go anywhere. What country is this?

A country of self-centered narcissists... obviously. Covid dragged on too long and took too many lives because people didn't want to be mildly inconvenienced.

 

[Oddball]

Well, no, actually vaccination has been an overwealming success... that we are down to less than a few hundred deaths a day compared to the 4000 deaths a day that were the case when we threw Trump out of office.

If mild inflation is the worst thing you have to worry about... then your life is pretty good.

Post hoc fallacy is fallacious.

 

[rightwinger]

right, anyone who disagrees with the leftist cult is to be denigrated and excommunicated from life in the USA. why do you want to live in a socialist dictatorship?

It is not the left, it is the entire world

Despicable individuals like Typhoid Sue have been cherry picking and spreading COVID misinformation contrary to what global experts are recommending

Hundreds of thousands have died for believing them

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I am a firm believer in bodily autonomy. If someone wants to get 100 shots they should have that right. That's not the issue here--and I think you know it

The issue here is that you are basically telling people they are wrong for choosing to get the vaccine.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

It's a dr.

A doctor.

This is the problem with so much of this. You find one doctor that tells you what you already think is true and you latch on to them, ignoring the 1000 doctors saying something different.

 

[eagle1462010]

I know vaxxed and boosted people getting one illness after another. Influenza A, B, Covid. This happened with me with flu vaccines. I asked my dr about this and she said yes, it can happen--they can suppress your immune system.

Now imagine getting four shots of this in just over a year

I was posting studies like this within months of the virus

Vaccine-induced enhancement of viral infections - PubMed

Examples of vaccine-induced enhancement of susceptibility to virus infection or of aberrant viral pathogenesis have been documented for infections by members of different virus families. Several mechanisms, many of which still are poorly understood, are at the basis of this phenomenon. Vaccine...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Consequently, vaccine-induced enhancement has been a major stumble block in the development of certain flavi-, corona-, paramyxo-, and lentivirus vaccines. Also recent failures in the development of a vaccine against HIV may at least in part be attributed to induction of enhanced susceptibility to infection. T

Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens - PMC

Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Vaccines that let the hosts survive but do not prevent the spread of the pathogen relax this selection, allowing the evolution of hotter pathogens to occur. This type of vaccine is often called a leaky vaccine. When vaccines prevent transmission, as is the case for nearly all vaccines used in humans, this type of evolution towards increased virulence is blocked. But when vaccines leak, allowing at least some pathogen transmission, they could create the ecological conditions that would allow hot strains to emerge and persist.

 

[eagle1462010]

You have been spreading lies and misinformation about COVID since the outbreak began

You opposed masks, social distancing and mocked those who practiced it
You encouraged people not to vaccinate and spread lies and mistruths about its safety

You are, without doubt, a despicable person who celebrates and contributes to the million people dying of COVID

And I say you denied early treatments of off label drugs that killed Americans.

Why are you murdering Americans rightwinger?

And now years later............with the worst stats on planet earth you still defend the gov't narrative..............How much do they pay you to be a Murderer with your information?

As you see.......I'll fire back at your ass same as you with me.

 

[Oddball]

Despicable individuals like Typhoid Sue have been cherry picking and spreading COVID misinformation....

 

[Oddball]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

CDC Admits It Can’t Back Claim That Vaccines Don’t Cause Variants​

CDC Admits It Can’t Back Claim That Vaccines Don’t Cause Variants

CDC Admits It Can't Back Claim That Vaccines Don't Cause Variants Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says it does not

tradeforprofit.net

 

[SweetSue92]

Two doses of inactivated polio vaccine (IPV) are 90% effective or more against polio; three doses are 99% to 100% effective.

Historically, the smallpox vaccine has been effective in preventing smallpox infection in 95% of those vaccinated.

Reviews of past studies have found that the flu vaccine is about 50% to 60% effective for healthy adults who are between 18 and 64 years old.

The mRNA vaccines coming in much worse than this you realize. Right?

 

[SweetSue92]

You have been spreading lies and misinformation about COVID since the outbreak began

You opposed masks, social distancing and mocked those who practiced it
You encouraged people not to vaccinate and spread lies and mistruths about its safety

You are, without doubt, a despicable person who celebrates and contributes to the million people dying of COVID

I have been right about everything.

Masks don't work
Social distancing is so destructive it's not worth the cost
Now I'm right about vaccines

Your insults mean nothing to me. Cry harder.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Meanwhile, back at the ranch...

CDC Admits It Can’t Back Claim That Vaccines Don’t Cause Variants​

CDC Admits It Can’t Back Claim That Vaccines Don’t Cause Variants

CDC Admits It Can't Back Claim That Vaccines Don't Cause Variants Authored by Zachary Stieber via The Epoch Times (emphasis ours), The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says it does not

tradeforprofit.net

WTF?
Why would you think vaccines don't cause variants?

That's how variants proliferate, there are infections that are tetracycline and penicillin resistant, you moron.
How did that come about?
Giving people BBQ sauce?

 

[alang1216]

The mRNA vaccines coming in much worse than this you realize. Right?

Link?

I found:

Receiving 2 or 3 doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a 90% reduction in risk for COVID-19–associated IMV or death. Protection of 3 mRNA vaccine doses during the period of Omicron predominance was 94%.​

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and:

mRNA vaccines were found to be highly effective in preventing covid-19 associated hospital admissions related to the alpha, delta, and omicron variants, but three vaccine doses were required to achieve protection against omicron similar to the protection that two doses provided against the delta and alpha variants. Among adults admitted to hospital with covid-19, the omicron variant was associated with less severe disease than the delta variant but still resulted in substantial morbidity and mortality. Vaccinated patients admitted to hospital with covid-19 had significantly lower disease severity than unvaccinated patients for all the variants.​

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

It's Over. The Vaccines Have Failed.​

I wouldn't say they failed. If you look at the stats last year the people who were getting hospitalized and dying from COVID were overwhelmingly those who were not vaccinated. The gap has been narrowing since then. It seems to indicate that vaccines have a limited efficacy. After a few months their protection seems to wane, so long term they don't seem very effective.

 

[alang1216]

I have been right about everything.

You're not right about that.

Masks don't work

The Mayo clinic disagrees: Can face masks help slow the spread of the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)? Yes. Face masks combined with other preventive measures, such as getting vaccinated, frequent hand-washing and physical distancing, can help slow the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19.

Social distancing is so destructive it's not worth the cost

That's a value judgement. How much are human lives worth?

Now I'm right about vaccines

Nope.

 

[SweetSue92]

I wouldn't say they failed. If you look at the stats last year the people who were getting hospitalized and dying from COVID were overwhelmingly those who were not vaccinated. The gap has been narrowing since then. It seems to indicate that vaccines have a limited efficacy. After a few months their protection seems to wane, so long term they don't seem very effective.

You are left with a limited efficacy and a higher propensity to being infected. Your immune response is stunted; it becomes a "one trick pony". This is shown around the world and at the state and community level here in the US.

And that does not even begin to factor in the side effects of these shots

 

[SweetSue92]

Link?

I found:

Receiving 2 or 3 doses of an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine was associated with a 90% reduction in risk for COVID-19–associated IMV or death. Protection of 3 mRNA vaccine doses during the period of Omicron predominance was 94%.​

​

and:

mRNA vaccines were found to be highly effective in preventing covid-19 associated hospital admissions related to the alpha, delta, and omicron variants, but three vaccine doses were required to achieve protection against omicron similar to the protection that two doses provided against the delta and alpha variants. Among adults admitted to hospital with covid-19, the omicron variant was associated with less severe disease than the delta variant but still resulted in substantial morbidity and mortality. Vaccinated patients admitted to hospital with covid-19 had significantly lower disease severity than unvaccinated patients for all the variants.​

We have to go to the UK for any honest information. The CDC goes all the way back to Mar 2021 to massage the numbers

Here, pg 10. Vaccine efficacy (VE) against hospitalizations ONLY. Look at the wane. They used to count cases and stopped--there was too much negative efficacy and it made the jabs look horrible. Can't have that.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1075115/COVID-19_vaccine_surveillance_report_12_May_2022_week_19.pdf

 

[Rigby5]

The only question is, is it better to get vaxed than not and everything I've seen says get vaxed. If you want to make the perfect the enemy of the good, that is your business.

All the info I have read says it is much better to not get vaxxed.
I took 2 Moderna shots, out of respect for the will of the majority, and now can no longer feel anything from my toes.
I was sicker than I had ever been in my life, for weeks.

The mRNA shots can not possibly do any good because it contains no inert pathogen for the immune system to remember or trigger on.
The immune system had better not ever trigger on spike proteins, or else then our own exosomes would be attacked and we would all die.

But you can inject any sort of debris you want and temporarily the immune system will produce antibodies in order to clean up that debris. That is not a cure or immunity. That is only a temporary improvement that is not at all worth the risk. So don't do it. Everything says 6 months after the mRNA vax, and you are just as likely to get infected and spread it, but even more likely to die.