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You got it!!! You are ABSOLUTELY right !!!The Bible is a collection of books, and it contains works of fiction as well. My post was about perceptions, not about fiction or non-fiction. It stands. The authors' intents, purposes, and perspectives are quite different from what you would have people perceive/believe. That makes it about interpretation/ignored context--and as we both know, interpretations like yours have been on the Internet for years, so I don't find them shocking, or even interesting. Same ol', same ol. However, I am interested in what, personally, caused you to develop such a hatred of God--but only if you are comfortable in sharing this.
The BIble is a collection of cherry-picked religious texts written generationsand centuries after the main figure died. Whether the figure, a Jew intended to create a splinter religioni s a very good question. And if so, why not write something? Why leave that to others, make no mention of specificly telling them to do that, then hope they get around to it?
I don't think Jesus or even any of the disciples intended to create a religion distinct and apart from Judaism. I think someone had that idea seeing that possibility and co-opted what should have remained a kind of biography of what happened. And made a religion around it. Custom selecting those works that made it seem like a single holy book. While rejecting those that depicted more accurately the human nature of the man.
You don't think ....
since I actually did read the OT and NT----I completely agree with Delta-dawn. There is
ABSOLUTELY nothing in the NT to suggest that the main men-----ie Jesus and John the Baptist---
had a NEW RELIGION IN MIND------- it is absolutely obvious that ----Christianity was an after-thought-------mostly created as far as the record shows-----by some guy named "PAUL".
Paul-----even claims DIVINE REVELATIONS----
for himself. Even Jesus does not do that
Let's see ... since Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ ... which were unlike any previous religion ... the fact that the Bible does not explicitly state that they were creating a new religion would seem, at best, to be immaterial.
The Bible is not intended to be a tutorial on how to create a new religion. Rather, it is a discussion of how to better live our lives. Christ did not intend to create a separate sect within Judaism, nor did he intend to create a separate religion. He only intended to pass the Word of God to us. To assign venal motives to him is typical of non-believers.
Your point is moot.You got it!!! You are ABSOLUTELY right !!!The Bible is a collection of books, and it contains works of fiction as well. My post was about perceptions, not about fiction or non-fiction. It stands. The authors' intents, purposes, and perspectives are quite different from what you would have people perceive/believe. That makes it about interpretation/ignored context--and as we both know, interpretations like yours have been on the Internet for years, so I don't find them shocking, or even interesting. Same ol', same ol. However, I am interested in what, personally, caused you to develop such a hatred of God--but only if you are comfortable in sharing this.
The BIble is a collection of cherry-picked religious texts written generationsand centuries after the main figure died. Whether the figure, a Jew intended to create a splinter religioni s a very good question. And if so, why not write something? Why leave that to others, make no mention of specificly telling them to do that, then hope they get around to it?
I don't think Jesus or even any of the disciples intended to create a religion distinct and apart from Judaism. I think someone had that idea seeing that possibility and co-opted what should have remained a kind of biography of what happened. And made a religion around it. Custom selecting those works that made it seem like a single holy book. While rejecting those that depicted more accurately the human nature of the man.
You don't think ....
since I actually did read the OT and NT----I completely agree with Delta-dawn. There is
ABSOLUTELY nothing in the NT to suggest that the main men-----ie Jesus and John the Baptist---
had a NEW RELIGION IN MIND------- it is absolutely obvious that ----Christianity was an after-thought-------mostly created as far as the record shows-----by some guy named "PAUL".
Paul-----even claims DIVINE REVELATIONS----
for himself. Even Jesus does not do that
Let's see ... since Christianity is based on the teachings of Christ ... which were unlike any previous religion ... the fact that the Bible does not explicitly state that they were creating a new religion would seem, at best, to be immaterial.
The Bible is not intended to be a tutorial on how to create a new religion. Rather, it is a discussion of how to better live our lives. Christ did not intend to create a separate sect within Judaism, nor did he intend to create a separate religion. He only intended to pass the Word of God to us. To assign venal motives to him is typical of non-believers.
Your point is moot.
Try again------Jesus quoted HILLEL
incessantly-------just what is there that
you imagine that jesus "taught" that was
innovative? -----(hillel was a person who died
at about the time that jesus was born-----he
was quoted and is still quoted -------all the time)
You call THAT an argument??? Hillel greatly influenced Judaism at that time ... during his youth, Jesus was exposed to his influence constantly. Why would you NOT expect him to be influenced by it?
Quit trying to fabricate a fallacious argument ... you're not very good at it.