Jesus saves?

[WhiteLion]

If you mean "Christianity" like Catholicism, Baptists, Mormons, Methodists, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Presbyterian, Holiness, Pentecostal and any other church not found written in the Bible you would be true because those are all manmade, the Church of Christ isn't.

Chruch of GOD... 1 Corinthians 11:22 What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink ... ... Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? ... or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? ...
1 Timothy 3:5 (For if a man know not how to rule his own house ... ... (but if a man does not know how to manage his own household, how will he take care of the church of God?), ...
2 Corinthians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of ... ... Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, To the church of God which is at Corinth with all the saints who are throughout ...
multilingualbible.com/2_corinthians/1-1.htm - 57k
1 Corinthians 1:2 Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to ... ... To the church of God which is at Corinth, to those who have been sanctified in Christ Jesus, saints by calling, with all who in every place call on the name of ...

 

[WhiteLion]

Yeshua (Jesus) DID exist. He was a Jewish Tzadik actually.

Oh yeah.....if you're looking for proof? The Roman Empire printed coins, and on those coins were the figures of famous and great people who had lived. About a year or two ago, they were digging over in the ME to expand a prison. What they'd found was the remains of a church. Inside that church, was a coin, with the likeness and name of Jesus on it.

Nope.......He exists. And I use the present tense because Yeshua never died, He was resurrected. Kinda makes me wonder about all the idiots out there that are claiming to be the Second Coming.

Don't they realize He never dies?

Acts 1:11 They also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into the sky? This Jesus, who has been taken up from you into heaven, will come in just the same way as you have watched Him go into heaven."

1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:17Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds together with them to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
These are the scriptures that back what most American protestants believe in the King James Version, which again was translated from the original Greek and Hebrew tongues under the supervision of William Tyndale(in the Great Reformation) despite what you believe. None of your rubbish would change the way Jews with the Torah, and Arabs with Islamic Quran feel about what they believe, just as you will not change what we Christain American protestants believe in the King James Holy Bible. So go find you another post to be a nuisance cause you spinning your wheels here puke deck....

 

[ABikerSailor]

WTF? Armageddon must be just around the corner. It appears White Lying is agreeing.

 

[MichaelCollins]

This is a hilarious thread.

We dont have anyone left in Europe who literally believes in the Bible... we have about 2% who believe in religion.

If any of you jesus freaks spouted even 10% of the insanity that you have written here...you would be locked in a mental institution for the rest of your lives.

What happened in the US...to create so many stone age fundie nutjobs???


Ok..we all know that the Bible is just the ramblings of some unknown people 2000 years ago.....however for these fundie new christian groups to claim that Catholicism is wrong and their fundie literalism is right....is simply hilarious.

Where would these fundie nutjobs get their Bible from if it wasnt for the work of Catholics for hundreds and hundreds of years before their freak american religions were invented?

Catholics are nuts of course... but they tend to be alot saner than the extreme literalist bible bashing freaks of the US southern/midwest. I mean these groups are so desperately sick... how did they get to this state ??

 

[WhiteLion]

This is a hilarious thread.

We dont have anyone left in Europe who literally believes in the Bible... we have about 2% who believe in religion.

If any of you jesus freaks spouted even 10% of the insanity that you have written here...you would be locked in a mental institution for the rest of your lives.

What happened in the US...to create so many stone age fundie nutjobs???


Ok..we all know that the Bible is just the ramblings of some unknown people 2000 years ago.....however for these fundie new christian groups to claim that Catholicism is wrong and their fundie literalism is right....is simply hilarious.

Where would these fundie nutjobs get their Bible from if it wasnt for the work of Catholics for hundreds and hundreds of years before their freak american religions were invented?

Catholics are nuts of course... but they tend to be alot saner than the extreme literalist bible bashing freaks of the US southern/midwest. I mean these groups are so desperately sick... how did they get to this state ??

lol thats calling the kettle black, look at the hate toward Christians you just typed hypocrite, if you cant see it, then you are a demented, tormented and obviously a lunacidel maniac like your mentor HITLER.......However your right, Christians are being killed and locked away for their beliefs all over the world. In the USA alone as we speak, The Ten Commandments removed, Christian Crosses removed, Christains sued for Christian displays, unequal and unbalanced rightofway against Christians, You'd have thought by now that the Hitlers and NEros of the world would have gotten a belly full of blood with all of the Christian and Jewish blood spilled thru out the ages, but oh no you havent seen nothing yet. So sit back little Hitler and sink your bloody fangs into more anti Christain bigotry because its on its way...

 

[cjcord]

FFS, ativan man! I'm sure you don't realize how insane you sound, but I'm worried you'll have a stroke.

 

[Bass v 2.0]

Michael Collins still has provided no evidence for his positions, just the same old babble from non-believers.

 

[AllieBaba]

This is a hilarious thread.

We dont have anyone left in Europe who literally believes in the Bible... we have about 2% who believe in religion.

If any of you jesus freaks spouted even 10% of the insanity that you have written here...you would be locked in a mental institution for the rest of your lives.

What happened in the US...to create so many stone age fundie nutjobs???


Ok..we all know that the Bible is just the ramblings of some unknown people 2000 years ago.....however for these fundie new christian groups to claim that Catholicism is wrong and their fundie literalism is right....is simply hilarious.

Where would these fundie nutjobs get their Bible from if it wasnt for the work of Catholics for hundreds and hundreds of years before their freak american religions were invented?

Catholics are nuts of course... but they tend to be alot saner than the extreme literalist bible bashing freaks of the US southern/midwest. I mean these groups are so desperately sick... how did they get to this state ??

Which explains why you are being eaten from within by atheists and muslims. Talk about fundie nutjobs.
North London Central Mosque - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Gentlewarrior]

Just throwing this out there:

If Jesus offers salvation, or if belief in him will save you - what exactly is it saving your from?

GW <><< He saves us from the lie that the serpent used to tempt man (Gen 3:5) which stated "you shall be like God"

Now, before you refute it, think about it how it applies to every living person in this world including yourself.

 

[WhiteLion]

This is the exact verse that made me leave Christianity.

And we was the better for it.......

 

[WhiteLion]

Just throwing this out there:

If Jesus offers salvation, or if belief in him will save you - what exactly is it saving your from?

GW <><< He saves us from the lie that the serpent used to tempt man (Gen 3:5) which stated "you shall be like God"

Now, before you refute it, think about it how it applies to every living person in this world including yourself.

Dont worry it probably doesnt apply to you lol

 

[ABikerSailor]

Dont worry it probably doesnt apply to you lol

Avoidance.......the last refuge of an idiot.

 

[WhiteLion]

Avoidance.......the last refuge of an idiot.

Deck Puke i only thought you was a moron until you opened your mouth and removed "ALL" my doubt....

 

[ABikerSailor]

Well Whitey Lying, I KNEW you were one when I first saw you.

Just another blinded, close minded, fanatical believer.

 

[Gurdari]

<< He saves us from the lie that the serpent used to tempt man (Gen 3:5) which stated "you shall be like God"
Now, before you refute it, think about it how it applies to every living person in this world including yourself.

Save us from a lie? Isn't it God's power to punish us? His decision as to who gets punished? If so, then Jesus would be saving us from God's wrath, no?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Save us from a lie? Isn't it God's power to punish us? His decision as to who gets punished? If so, then Jesus would be saving us from God's wrath, no?

Okay, but why do we need to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus, when most Christians will tell you that they are one and the same. Is God a split personality?

(Just playing devils advocate)

 

[N4mddissent]

Okay, but why do we need to be saved from God's wrath by Jesus, when most Christians will tell you that they are one and the same. Is God a split personality?

(Just playing devils advocate)

The trinity concept is tough one. Here was Thomas Jefferson's opinion on it.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity. It is the mere Abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of Jesus."

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Francis Adrian Van der Kemp, 30 July, 1816

 

[RetiredGySgt]

There is no trinity is one. That is a false belief and it is clear in the bible that Jesus is NOT God and the Holy Spirit is NOT God. All one need do is read the Bible.

 

[ABikerSailor]

There is no trinity is one. That is a false belief and it is clear in the bible that Jesus is NOT God and the Holy Spirit is NOT God. All one need do is read the Bible.

Most "Christians" would disagree with you on that RGS.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Most "Christians" would disagree with you on that RGS.

And they are wrong. it is clear as day, Jesus is NOT God, he says so numerous times in the Bible. He is the SON of God, the Bible states he was created BY God. And the Holy Spirit is a force of God, NOT God himself. Again plain as day in the Bible. Try reading it some time.