Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

[surada]

there may have been one or two arabs left over from a spice and slave bearing caravan

Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria during the Babylonian exile.

 

[surada]

Well the answer is simple, they are arabs.

714 BCE

Sargon attacks a number of Arab tribes, including the Thamud, Ephah, Ibadidi and Marsimani; deporting the survivors of his campaign to Samaria.

 

[irosie91]

Yes I did. But I didn't say the Jews rebelled against Pompey. Pompey was the beginning of the Roman occupation of the land we now call Israel. He was long gone before the first Jewish rebellion against the Jews however.

more confusion----DA JOOOS were never happy with the Roman invasion---and the Roman appointed officials---including the King, the high priests and
the tax collectors----That's why Jesus knocked the tables of money changers over and his cousin John got axed. Herod was an Edomite which is a descendant of Abraham---via Esau (so they say) Esau is supposed to be the
fraternal twin of Jacob (Israel) ---sons of Isaac ---the son of Abraham to wit,
not arabs----they were called Edomites and had a written language

 

[irosie91]

Four Arab tribes settled in Samaria during the Babylonian exile.

I wonder what happened to them. Chances are there were
individual arabs here and there thruout the Levant and all the way
to India------since they were caravan drivers and traders. Homo sapiens
are TRAVELERS----that's how Hawaii got populated. If there is a way to
get there----homo sapiens WILL

 

[irosie91]

Well the answer is simple, they are arabs.

who?

 

[surada]

I wonder what happened to them. Chances are there were
individual arabs here and there thruout the Levant and all the way
to India------since they were caravan drivers and traders. Homo sapiens
are TRAVELERS----that's how Hawaii got populated. If there is a way to
get there----homo sapiens WILL

714 BCE

Sargon attacks a number of Arabic tribes, including the Thamud, Ephah, Ibadidi and Marsimani; deporting the survivors of his campaign to Samaria.

King Sargon of Akkad—facts and information

King Sargon of Akkad—who legend says was destined to rule—established the world’s first empire more than 4,000 years ago in Mesopotamia.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[irosie91]

714 BCE

Sargon attacks a number of Arabic tribes, including the Thamud, Ephah, Ibadidi and Marsimani; deporting the survivors of his campaign to Samaria.

King Sargon of Akkad—facts and information

King Sargon of Akkad—who legend says was destined to rule—established the world’s first empire more than 4,000 years ago in Mesopotamia.

www.nationalgeographic.com

right SO? Sargon was an empire builder but failed to
render the people of his vast incursions that included "arabs"
literate-----arabs stayed "arabs" for a long time. Even Muhummad
was an arab

 

[surada]

right SO? Sargon was an empire builder but failed to
render the people of his vast incursions that included "arabs"
literate-----arabs stayed "arabs" for a long time. Even Muhummad
was an arab

Herodotus referred to Arabs saying that there were many Arabs (of different tribes) living in Palestine, mainly in Jerusalem and the southern regions. He was referring to the semitic Arab tribes of Amorites, Canaanites, Nabateans and others who had entered the land from Arabia in migratory waves since the ancient times.

 

[surada]

Several hundred thousand Samaritans lived in the Holy Land at the time of Christ. But a war with the Byzantines, between 529 AD and 531 AD, decimated their population. The subsequent arrival of Islam depleted their numbers further; most ethnic Samaritans are now pious Muslims.

 

[GreatestIam]

And the why? I think the large majority is just as senseless as all other forms of bigotry without rhyme or reason.

Yes, and I think the swing to Laisite is the majority agreeing.

These days, good people like to discriminate negatively for a just cause and do not find that in the more right wing sectors.

 

[irosie91]

Arabs migrated to the Levant and Mesopotamia in waves starting 10,000 years ago. There's a lot of Akkadian cuneiform writing in Arabia.

The Jews were never in Egypt. Egypt was in Canaan for 400 years.

there is a lot of Akkadian cuneiform in arabia because AKKADIANS
who spoke and wrote AKKADIAN made incursions there. Akkadian is
not arabic and Akkadians were not arabs. Arabs were people originating
in arabia and who spoke arabic.

Herodotus referred to Arabs saying that there were many Arabs (of different tribes) living in Palestine, mainly in Jerusalem and the southern regions. He was referring to the semitic Arab tribes of Amorites, Canaanites, Nabateans and others who had entered the land from Arabia in migratory waves since the ancient times.

SO? Herodotus was wrong-----His theory that everyone in Mesopotamia
is FROM ARABIA ---is ludicrous but could be consistent with some sort of
perverted Baathist ideology. Mesopotamia is not Arabia. Somehow---
the completely illiterate people of arabia migrated to Mesopotamia and
suddenly developed a written language that has a very tenuous connection
with the language they spoke when they got there----to wit "arabic" and
developed an agrarian society dependent on the two rivers but had
been nomadic shepherds. I wonder what word Herodotus used for "arab".
In pre-islam times ----arabs were called ISHMAELITES in the bible and
the talmud. As to various tribes in the PALESTINE OF HERODOTUS---the
Palestine of Herodotus covered a lot more area than the JUDEA of the
Roman occupation----it included even parts of Syria, probably Gaza and
definitely the lands that had once harbored the PHILISTINES who were
Aegeans. The Assyrians were Assyrians----not arabs. The Philistines were
Phonecians, the Edomites and Samaritans were breakoffs from the
descendants of ISAAC---via his twin kids JACOB AND ESAU (so they say)
Only a simpleton would claim THE JEWS WERE NEVER IN EGYPT---it's not much of a walk OVER LAND. Even the Greeks were in Troy and it was harder to get there. There is also a linguistic and cultural connection

 

[GreatestIam]

Do Jews love Jesus?

Some do and some don't.

Which Jesus? The one that says he comes to cure the evil other side, or the genocidal Armageddon bringer?

If you only see one Jesus in the Bible; What can I say?

 

[GreatestIam]

I can call myself a kangaroo, but that doesn’t mean I’m a kangaroo.

Jesus said the same of believers.

We can do the same today for for all Christians.

If I go by the Bible that has Jesus saying that any who believe or have faith could do all he did and more, then there has never been a Christian with faith or belief.

Jesus would not lie, would he?

 

[irosie91]

Some do and some don't.

Which Jesus? The one that says he comes to cure the evil other side, or the genocidal Armageddon bringer?

If you only see one Jesus in the Bible; What can I say?

I read the NT----I saw only one Jesus----a Pharisee from the GALIL who
liked to quote Hillel. He was crucified by the Romans for sedition against
Rome which was the Pharisee thing to do at the time

 

[irosie91]

Jesus said the same of believers.

We can do the same today for for all Christians.

If I go by the Bible that has Jesus saying that any who believe or have faith could do all he did and more, then there has never been a Christian with faith or belief.

Jesus would not lie, would he?

According to the NT, he was literate---but somehow did not leave
any written evidence. Maybe someday someone will find something

 

[Libby von H]

Jesus was a Jew. Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

The racism that many show against Jews, must by definition include Jesus, as he only taught Jewish traditions along with his criticisms of it. This included the Jewish esoteric and mystical teachings similar to Gnostic Christian thinking. Jesus’ forte.

Yahweh chose to have the Jews and Romans sacrifice Jesus and thus the Jews hold no blame.

Yahweh loved the Jews and it seems counter intuitive to have religions like Christianity and Islam, who have usurped the Jewish Yahweh and Jesus from the Jews, to try to take the Jew out of Jesus and hating that Jewishness.

Jewry is the root and patriarch of Christianity and Islam, yet those religions do not seem to respect their own Jewish roots.

Roots should be revered. Christians and Muslims do not love or respect their religious fathers and mothers; so to speak.

Jesus was a Jew.

Why do some Christians and Muslims hate Jews?

Regards
DL

Life must surprise you every day. THis happens in a million instances

Jesus was a Jew and He Himself gave the answer
And no one after drinking old wine desires new wine, but says, 'The old is good.'”

 

[GreatestIam]

According to the NT, he was literate---but somehow did not leave
any written evidence. Maybe someday someonw will find something

It would not make any difference to the immorality of a literalist Christianity.

If that Jesus ever showed himself, all good people would kill him.

What else would a good person do to the son of a genocidal God, who was about to do another genocide with Armageddon.

 

[GreatestIam]

Life must surprise you every day. THis happens in a million instances

Jesus was a Jew and He Himself gave the answer
And no one after drinking old wine desires new wine, but says, 'The old is good.'”

"This".

Which comment?

 

[irosie91]

It would not make any difference to the immorality of a literalist Christianity.

If that Jesus ever showed himself, all good people would kill him.

What else would a good person do to the son of a genocidal God, who was about to do another genocide with Armageddon.

not everyone was into a last days SCENARIO-----it was PAUL (imo) who
popularized that idea. As far as I recall---JOHN (the mikveh man) had
some "last days" idea----but HIS last days were the fulfillment of the
prophesy of ISAIAH (the optimist). The big time destruction reached its
apex in the BOOK OF REVULSIONS (the mushroom galvanized) ---but
EZEKIEL also seems to have eaten of the same batch

 

[GreatestIam]

I read the NT----I saw only one Jesus----a Pharisee from the GALIL who
liked to quote Hillel. He was crucified by the Romans for sedition against
Rome which was the Pharisee thing to do at the time

Hillel, like all of Jewry, followed the Oral Torah that puts man above God, so I like that.

Today, he would be seen as a Gnostic Christian. Most of the intelligentsia is.