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here is a real fact...
because someone says something is a fact does not make it a fact. other than #1, the others are arguable.
Here's a photo of the art projects the kids at the conference were doing. What do you think that's a map of? Is that a two-state solution map?
The map is geographically correct. Why do you have a problem with an accurate map?
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
I guess so.
Only I have not done so. What I have done is reject the idea that one person's accusation is to be deemed a "fact." Here, there is no dispute. He did speak at the conference, the conference is sponsored by an organization that advocates a "Palestine from river to sea" concept, the organization has connections to terrorist organizations, and it has published anti-Semitic materials. These are all facts that are not contested by anyone. If Aboushi claimed that he was not at the conference, then I'd have to consider the source that is saying he was there. But that's not the case.
I don't really like the term "Muslim extremist" either, but I do think he is "Palestinian extremist" in that he takes his support of "Palestine" to an extreme level that questions Israel's right to exist.
In my book, anyone who would agree to speak at such a conference is guilty of extremist behavior.
Actually, before joining this forum, I had never heard of Stormfront.
I don't really like the term "Muslim extremist" either, but I do think he is "Palestinian extremist" in that he takes his support of "Palestine" to an extreme level that questions Israel's right to exist.
Why do you consider that extreme? It is a legitimate question under the circumstances.
In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?There are no "smear tactics" in the article. The article presents FACTS regarding: (1) Oboushi's participation in the conference, and (2) the nature of the organization that sponsored the conference. It then draws conclusions from those facts. Just because you don't agree with those conclusions or believe them to be overreaching does not mean the article must be discarded. Rather, you are free to draw your own conclusions based upon the facts (which nobody is contensting) that are set forth in the article.
I don't read Stormfront, so I have no comment on that site.
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Perhaps you might consider your words here: "Rather, you are free to draw your own conclusions based upon the facts (which nobody is contensting) that are set forth in the article" in light of other conversations where you summarily dismissed sources and "facts" without "contesting them".
I find this OP makes many allegations and provides next to no supporting material and contested what they've claimed about him being a "Muslim extremist".
Perhaps you can offer up some first hand evidence of this "Muslim extremism" in this young man - some quotes, behavior etc to support that. The kind of evidence you, yourself, would demand were this a criticism levied at Israel.
FYI - You don't need to read Stormfront to know what it is.
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Perhaps you might consider your words here: "Rather, you are free to draw your own conclusions based upon the facts (which nobody is contensting) that are set forth in the article" in light of other conversations where you summarily dismissed sources and "facts" without "contesting them".
I find this OP makes many allegations and provides next to no supporting material and contested what they've claimed about him being a "Muslim extremist".
Perhaps you can offer up some first hand evidence of this "Muslim extremism" in this young man - some quotes, behavior etc to support that. The kind of evidence you, yourself, would demand were this a criticism levied at Israel.
FYI - You don't need to read Stormfront to know what it is.
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
The U.S. State Department classifies ISLAMIC RELIEF as a front for Hamas. IR hosted the conference.In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
Hamas wasn't giving the conference.
There are no "smear tactics" in the article. The article presents FACTS regarding: (1) Oboushi's participation in the conference, and (2) the nature of the organization that sponsored the conference. It then draws conclusions from those facts. Just because you don't agree with those conclusions or believe them to be overreaching does not mean the article must be discarded. Rather, you are free to draw your own conclusions based upon the facts (which nobody is contensting) that are set forth in the article.
I don't read Stormfront, so I have no comment on that site.
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "he’s a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Perhaps you might consider your words here: "Rather, you are free to draw your own conclusions based upon the facts (which nobody is contensting) that are set forth in the article" in light of other conversations where you summarily dismissed sources and "facts" without "contesting them".
I find this OP makes many allegations and provides next to no supporting material and contested what they've claimed about him being a "Muslim extremist".
Perhaps you can offer up some first hand evidence of this "Muslim extremism" in this young man - some quotes, behavior etc to support that. The kind of evidence you, yourself, would demand were this a criticism levied at Israel.
FYI - You don't need to read Stormfront to know what it is.
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "he’s a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Perhaps you might consider your words here: "Rather, you are free to draw your own conclusions based upon the facts (which nobody is contensting) that are set forth in the article" in light of other conversations where you summarily dismissed sources and "facts" without "contesting them".
I find this OP makes many allegations and provides next to no supporting material and contested what they've claimed about him being a "Muslim extremist".
Perhaps you can offer up some first hand evidence of this "Muslim extremism" in this young man - some quotes, behavior etc to support that. The kind of evidence you, yourself, would demand were this a criticism levied at Israel.
FYI - You don't need to read Stormfront to know what it is.
If you think it present's "facts" that support their claim he's "hes a Muslim extremist" giving a talk at a "radical Muslim conference" then we are worlds apart on what constitute "facts".
Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
The U.S. State Department classifies ISLAMIC RELIEF as a front for Hamas. IR hosted the conference.In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?
Hamas wasn't giving the conference.
Check out Post #185,then read this article,Harold.In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
Is that a law or just third grade political name calling?
And besides, this was not a Hamas event.
I guess so.
Only I have not done so. What I have done is reject the idea that one person's accusation is to be deemed a "fact." Here, there is no dispute. He did speak at the conference, the conference is sponsored by an organization that advocates a "Palestine from river to sea" concept, the organization has connections to terrorist organizations, and it has published anti-Semitic materials. These are all facts that are not contested by anyone. If Aboushi claimed that he was not at the conference, then I'd have to consider the source that is saying he was there. But that's not the case.
I don't really like the term "Muslim extremist" either, but I do think he is "Palestinian extremist" in that he takes his support of "Palestine" to an extreme level that questions Israel's right to exist.
In my book, anyone who would agree to speak at such a conference is guilty of extremist behavior.
Actually, before joining this forum, I had never heard of Stormfront.
I don't really like the term "Muslim extremist" either, but I do think he is "Palestinian extremist" in that he takes his support of "Palestine" to an extreme level that questions Israel's right to exist.
Why do you consider that extreme? It is a legitimate question under the circumstances.
No, its not.
Check out Post #185,then read this article,Harold.In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?
Is that a law or just third grade political name calling?
And besides, this was not a Hamas event.
Year Formed: 1993
Website: Islamic Relief USA - Working Together For A Better World
2010 Revenue: $182,595,129
Address: 3655 Wheeler Ave, Alexandria, VA 22304
Islamic Relief USA (IRUSA) says it strives to alleviate suffering, hunger, illiteracy, and diseases worldwide regardless of color, race, religion, or creed, and to provide aid in a compassionate and dignified manner. Islamic Relief USA aims to provide rapid relief in the event of human and natural disasters and to establish sustainable local development projects allowing communities to better help themselves.[1]
IRUSA is the American branch of Islamic Relief Worldwide (IRW), based in the United Kingdom.
The IRW leadership has numerous Muslim Brotherhood links, including one official that used to be the Minister of Religious Affairs in Sudan.[2] IRW was founded by Hani Al-Bana, a former trustee of a group called Muslim Aid.[3] The British government cleared Muslim Aid in 2010,[4] raising objections[5] from some terrorism researchers.[6]
This is the site I quoted but lost the link and found it again. This Islamic Relief has some good intentions but some shady people.Check out Post #185,then read this article,Harold.Is that a law or just third grade political name calling?
And besides, this was not a Hamas event.
Year Formed: 1993
Website: Islamic Relief USA - Working Together For A Better World
2010 Revenue: $182,595,129
Address: 3655 Wheeler Ave, Alexandria, VA 22304
Islamic Relief USA (IRUSA) says it strives to alleviate suffering, hunger, illiteracy, and diseases worldwide regardless of color, race, religion, or creed, and to provide aid in a compassionate and dignified manner. Islamic Relief USA aims to provide rapid relief in the event of human and natural disasters and to establish sustainable local development projects allowing communities to better help themselves.[1]
IRUSA is the American branch of Islamic Relief Worldwide (IRW), based in the United Kingdom.
The IRW leadership has numerous Muslim Brotherhood links, including one official that used to be the Minister of Religious Affairs in Sudan.[2] IRW was founded by Hani Al-Bana, a former trustee of a group called Muslim Aid.[3] The British government cleared Muslim Aid in 2010,[4] raising objections[5] from some terrorism researchers.[6]
Link: Islamic Relief USA | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam
formerly RadicalIslam.org
More info: Charity Navigator Rating - Islamic Relief USA
Sounds like they are a good charity.
This is the site I quoted but lost the link and found it again. This Islamic Relief has some good intentions but some shady people.Check out Post #185,then read this article,Harold.
Year Formed: 1993
Website: Islamic Relief USA - Working Together For A Better World
2010 Revenue: $182,595,129
Address: 3655 Wheeler Ave, Alexandria, VA 22304
Islamic Relief USA (IRUSA) says it strives to alleviate suffering, hunger, illiteracy, and diseases worldwide regardless of color, race, religion, or creed, and to provide aid in a compassionate and dignified manner. Islamic Relief USA aims to provide rapid relief in the event of human and natural disasters and to establish sustainable local development projects allowing communities to better help themselves.[1]
IRUSA is the American branch of Islamic Relief Worldwide (IRW), based in the United Kingdom.
The IRW leadership has numerous Muslim Brotherhood links, including one official that used to be the Minister of Religious Affairs in Sudan.[2] IRW was founded by Hani Al-Bana, a former trustee of a group called Muslim Aid.[3] The British government cleared Muslim Aid in 2010,[4] raising objections[5] from some terrorism researchers.[6]
Link: Islamic Relief USA | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam
formerly RadicalIslam.org
More info: Charity Navigator Rating - Islamic Relief USA
Sounds like they are a good charity.
Islamic Relief USA | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam
Very perceptive, Paulie. Yes it's a truthful, honest, All-American website that spills the beans on the Islamic terrorists. How about that?This is the site I quoted but lost the link and found it again. This Islamic Relief has some good intentions but some shady people.Link: Islamic Relief USA | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam
formerly RadicalIslam.org
More info: Charity Navigator Rating - Islamic Relief USA
Sounds like they are a good charity.
Islamic Relief USA | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam
I was looking at the Clarion Project web site and that looks like a pretty shady outfit also.
Very perceptive, Paulie. Yes it's a truthful, honest, All-American website that spills the beans on the Islamic terrorists. How about that?This is the site I quoted but lost the link and found it again. This Islamic Relief has some good intentions but some shady people.
Islamic Relief USA | #1 News Site on the Threat of Radical Islam
I was looking at the Clarion Project web site and that looks like a pretty shady outfit also.
True. They're a devious bunch of sonsabitches but they speak the truth and their hearts are pure.Very perceptive, Paulie. Yes it's a truthful, honest, All-American website that spills the beans on the Islamic terrorists. How about that?I was looking at the Clarion Project web site and that looks like a pretty shady outfit also.
I saw a lot of name calling, innuendo, and guilt be association. They looked less than honest.
Six of this and a dozen of the other. Same terrorist shits, different name. Maybe you should read the OP article again then:In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
Hamas wasn't giving the conference.
If you think it's third grade name calling, try providing any kind of financial or material support for Hamas and see how many years that will land you in the Federal penitentiary.In the US of A, Hamas is considered a TERRORIST organization. You live in the USA and respect its laws don't you?Who decided that this was a radical Muslim conference? Was that how it was advertised?
Is that a law or just third grade political name calling?
And besides, this was not a Hamas event.
The constant requirement for people who support the kind of behavior exhibited by this Aboushi asshole character, is being in a continual state of denial.Its downright comical how hard some peoplevare working to pretend that this conference was innocuous. Never mind the evidence... just deny, deny, deny.
I have no interest in conversing with people who deliberately ignore facts.
And I'm done with this thread.
