Jewish girl beaten unconscious by “peaceful protestors” at UCLA

Sure it was. The UN that you so adore, said so.

So if the UN says I can have your house, I can take your house then? You aren't going to whip out one of those twenty guns you wank off with every night and do something about it?

Palestein is lucky Israel doesn't just nuke them.

Kind of hard to do that, Israel itself would be contaminated with radiation.

You didn't think this through at all, did you?
 
bullshit joe.....you moved every thing away from hamas in our conversations.....you are avoiding saying anything about hamas...i wonder why?....


Apparently, you don't know that it was Zionist right wingers who helped establish Hamas in order to start a bloody and internal Palestinian civil war.

The Zionist scheme was to establish Hamas to fight the PLO. (1)
In other words, Israels right wing Zionists helped establish Hamas to get Palestinians to fight other Palestinians.
You know, "Divide and conquer"?

Whatever they have done pales in comparison to current and previous Zionist terrorist gangs.
A popular Haganah / Irgun etc atrocity was to bayonet pregnant women in the abdomen so please don't think that militant Zionists, past and present, are any less savage than Hamas members.

I spent time in and around Palestinian refugee camps in Southern Lebanon during the '73 War and after hearing from Nakba survivors, seeing their wounds and looking through their tattered photo albums, I see little difference between Nakba survivors and Holocaust survivors except that Nakba survivors continue to suffer, don't receive $ Billions in reparations and don't have a biased Hollywood to churn out countless Nakba survivor stories.

The primary reason for Hamas' popularity is the egregious double standard that allows Israel to violate international law with not only impunity but reward.

Overall, I spent 10 - 11 months living among the Middle Eastern Muslims and, even as an obvious American, I didn't have a single hostile encounter.
The fact remains that the Muslims don't hate us for who we are. Where there is anti Western hostility, it exists because of what we do to them.

If you don't believe me, go see for yourself.

Thanks,





(1). "Israel Created Two of Its Own Worst Enemies—Hamas and Hezbollah"

EXCERPT "Hamas was a militant outgrowth of the Muslim Brotherhood, a humanitarian group operating in the Gaza Strip since the 1970s. Devoting itself to grass-roots social work in mosques and civic clinics, the Brotherhood abstained from all forms of anti-occupation struggle.

By 1986 the Brotherhood controlled 40 percent of all the mosques and the 7,000-student Islamic University in Gaza. At the time, Israeli authorities saw the Brotherhood as a counterbalance to the secular PLO and contributed to the Brotherhood’s cause through favors and donations to mosques and schools.3 Israeli donations to the Brotherhood were reported to be in the millions of dollars.

When Hamas emerged from the Brotherhood, however, it turned out that Israel had helped create an enemy motived not only by the nationalism of the PLO but by the religious fervor of Islam." CONTINUED
 
Where is Garland defending the civil rights of Jews?... I guess he is a Nazi too....
 
i dont feel sympathy for anyone who will kill a bunch of defenseless civilians to get their fucking point across.....and this includes Israel...

I don't in any way condone what Hamas did on 7 October 2023.

According to general opinion, Hamas killed about 1,000 people (civilians and military)

I hope that you will agree that after IDF had killed about 1,000 people, that they had essentially retaliated for those 1,000 (+ , -) killed by Hamas.

Unless someone considers Jewish lives somehow more valuable than non Jewish lives (as per the Talmud), then any killing of over 1,000 (+ , -) Palestinians would be killing "... a bunch of defenseless civilians to get their f.....g point across...."

I imagine that you must strongly oppose the current systematic extermination of 34,000 (+ , -) people who had nothing to do with the events of 7 October 2023.

Please clarify your sentiments on Netanyahu's Gaza genocide.

Thanks,

" Newborns die of hunger and mothers struggle to feed their children as Israel’s siege condemns Gazans to starvation"


EXCERPTS "Health workers say they cannot offer life-saving treatment to malnourished Gazans because Israel’s bombardment and siege has crushed the medical system.

UN experts accused Israel of “intentionally starving” Palestinians in Gaza.

The babies of thousands of women “who are due to give birth in the next month in the Gaza Strip are at risk of dying,” the UNICEF State of Palestine Humanitarian Situation report said on Tuesday. At least 5,500 pregnant women “do not have access to prenatal or postnatal check-ups because of bombings and need to flee for safety,” the report said."CONTINUED
 
I don't in any way condone what Hamas did on 7 October 2023.

According to general opinion, Hamas killed about 1,000 people (civilians and military)

I hope that you will agree that after IDF had killed about 1,000 people, that they had essentially retaliated for those 1,000 (+ , -) killed by Hamas.

Unless someone considers Jewish lives somehow more valuable than non Jewish lives (as per the Talmud), then any killing of over 1,000 (+ , -) Palestinians would be killing "... a bunch of defenseless civilians to get their f.....g point across...."

I imagine that you must strongly oppose the current systematic extermination of 34,000 (+ , -) people who had nothing to do with the events of 7 October 2023.

Please clarify your sentiments on Netanyahu's Gaza genocide.

Thanks,

" Newborns die of hunger and mothers struggle to feed their children as Israel’s siege condemns Gazans to starvation"


EXCERPTS "Health workers say they cannot offer life-saving treatment to malnourished Gazans because Israel’s bombardment and siege has crushed the medical system.

UN experts accused Israel of “intentionally starving” Palestinians in Gaza.

The babies of thousands of women “who are due to give birth in the next month in the Gaza Strip are at risk of dying,” the UNICEF State of Palestine Humanitarian Situation report said on Tuesday. At least 5,500 pregnant women “do not have access to prenatal or postnatal check-ups because of bombings and need to flee for safety,” the report said."CONTINUED
You can Blame Iran/Hamas
 
Woah….has this thread gotten way off topic….the history of Palestinians and Israel belongs in another thread. This topic is about a specific incident in the US, where a Jewish girl was injured in clashing protests.

Review the OP for a refresher and discuss the topic.
 
You can Blame Iran/Hamas


Why do apologists for Netanyahu's Gaza genocide keep pretending that resistance to Zionist genocide and expansionism began on 7 October 2023 when the fighting really began with the invasion of Nazi trained and armed Zionist terrorist gangs (Haganah, Irgun, Lehi etc)?

Long before the right wing Israeli government helped create Hamas(1) to fight the PLO and manipulate Palestinians fighting each other, foreign Zionist terrorist gangs destroyed over 500 Palestinian towns and villages while murdering, raping, mutilating and torturing Palestine's native residents.

That's when the fighting started, not on the widely publicized attack of 7 October 2023.

Systematically exterminating Palestine's native residents has been part of Netanyahu's "Mowing the lawn" doctrine for decades.
Have you forgotten about "Operation Cast Lead", "Operation Pillar of Cloud", "Operation Cutting Edge" etc in which most casualties were innocent civilians?

Long before the suspicious but tragic events of 7 October, about half of Israel's Jews supported ethnic cleansing (2) and I'm sure that that percentage is even higher as West Bank Palestinians who had nothing to do with 7 October have repeatedly come under attack from murderous right wing "Settlers" / land thieves. (3)

Both ethical Jews (4) and non Jews (5) around the world condemn Israel's genocidal agenda so how are Iran and Hamas to be blamed for hindering right wing Zionist genocide?

Thanks,

(1). “BLOWBACK: HOW ISRAEL WENT FROM HELPING CREATE HAMAS TO BOMBING IT”

Hamas wants to destroy Israel, right? But as Mehdi Hasan shows in a new video on blowback, Israeli officials admit they helped start the group.


EXCERPT “ Listen to former Israeli officials such as Brig. Gen. Yitzhak Segev, who was the Israeli military governor in Gaza in the early 1980s. Segev later told a New York Times reporter that he had helped finance the Palestinian Islamist movement as a “counterweight” to the secularists and leftists of the Palestine Liberation Organization and the Fatah party, led by Yasser Arafat (who himself referred to Hamas as “a creature of Israel.”)

“The Israeli government gave me a budget,” the retired brigadier general confessed, “and the military government gives to the mosques.”CONTINUED


(2). “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html

EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found." CONTINUED


(3). "Israel Must Loudly Arrest the Murderous West Bank Settlers"

EXCERPT "Since Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack, settlers there have killed more than 120 Palestinians and injured at least 2,000. They have forcibly expelled more than 800 Palestinians from their homes, blown up their generators and solar panels, and burned down tents of Bedouin herders.

Again: This has been going on not in Gaza but in the West Bank—which is governed by the Palestinian Authority, not by Hamas." CONTINUED


(4). “Jews Against Genocide statement and action”

EXCERPT “We, Jews Against Genocide, came to Yad Vashem, Israel’s memorial of the genocide committed against Jews, to honor the Palestinian children who are dying in a genocide committed by Jews.

We brought dolls to symbolise the children of Gaza, and tried to bring a glimpse of the horror that Gazan’s face, to Israel’s doorstep. We hope to show Israel, and the world, the absurd reality of using the memory of one genocide to justify another.” CONTINUED


(5). "The Majority of Americans Now Disapprove of Israel’s Genocide, Polling Finds"

EXCERPT "New polling finds that the majority of the American public now say that they disapprove of Israel’s genocidal siege of Gaza. Approval of the assault has plummeted over the course of a few months as Israel slaughtered at least 33,000 Palestinians and continues its destruction of Gaza with impunity.

According to a Gallup survey conducted last month, 55 percent of Americans say that they disapprove of Israel’s “military action” in Gaza — up from a minority of 45 percent in a November Gallup poll." CONTINUED
 
Except for historical context. When Christian Europeans were subjecting European Jews to the Holocaust and Pogroms and Inquisitions, the Islamic World welcomed them. The Sephardic Jews were the ones who fled the inquisition in Spain.
The first half was good in part. But not connected to Arab settlers in Israel/Palestine.

You're confusing Moroccans with Arabia: Arabs who stole Jews' land.

You are also avoiding the 1941 Farhoud massacre by your Mufti - Hitler's pal.

Most of all: the 1936-9 Arab riots with weapons from Nazis...

Nazis 'shipped arms to Palestinians'

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Then again, if you talk about Arabs as a whole, each some 50 years there was an Arab anti Jewish pogrom... beginning with 1066 Granada massacre.

Some highlights:

* 1066: execution of Rab Shmuel haNagid and ‘Garanda Massacre’ – 4-5,000 Jews died. The razing of the entire Jewish quarter in the Andalucian city of Granada.

* 1013: Under Umayyad rule,
The inhabitants of Cordoba, including Jews were massacred and looted. It is said that 2000 of them were murdered.

* 1033: Fez, Morocco, pogrom, Muslims massacres more than 6000 Jews and took away their women and robbed their belongings.

* Ibn Tumart (c.1080–c.1130), who, according to the medieval sage Abraham ibn Daud, undertook a campaign of extermination against the Jews, when he “decreed apostasy on the Jews, saying, ‘come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.’ thus he wiped out every last ‘name and remnant’ of them from all his empire, from the city of Silves at the end of the world until the city of al-Mahdiya.”

* 1172+: The Almohads, who had taken control of much of Islamic Iberia by 1172, were far more extremists than the Almoravides, and they treated the dhimmis harshly. Jews and chr. were expelled from Morocco and Islamic Spain.

* Maimonides (1138–1204) ‘Epistle to the Yemenites’, consoling the Jews of Yemen for the tortures they suffered and exhorting them to remain true to their faith , no matter what the cost. Despite the remoteness of their abode , the Yemenite Jews never lost contact with the spiritual movements in world Jewry. Their religious life was based entirely upon the Talmud.

* 1465: Fez, Morocco, Muslim subjects overthrew the last Marinid ruler who had appointed many Jews to high positions. Grudges leading to massacre the entire Jewish community of the city. The community was temporarily converted but soon reverted to Judaism.

* 1517: Safed, Israel, Jews were evicted from their homes, robbed and plundered, and they fled naked to the villages.

* Testimony by Rabbi Obadiah of Bertinoro c. 1445 – c. 1515:
(Schwab, M., Bertinoro, O., 1866. Voyages: Lettres d’Obadia de Bertinoro, 1487-89. France: au bureau des Archives israëlites.
Page 23): “In general, they appear in all Islamism as poor and deorived of everything . They have shabby dress like beggars, and they bend their backs to the Muslims.”
[Aka oppressive apartheid Dhimmitude].

* Some “40,000 Jews lived in (Eretz Israel in the area of) Caesarea alone at the Arab conquest, after which all trace of them is lost.”

* 1679–1680: Imam of Yemen (Rassid dynasty) – Jews of nearly all cities and towns in Yemen exiled to a remote desert and left to die.

* 1790 Jews massacred in Tetuán, in Morocco.

* 1828, in Baghdad, a cycle of violence and pillage began in Safed.

* 1834 looting of Safed… 33 days of horror!

* 1840-1908: after the Damascus affair – blood libel, riots and massacres of Jews were carried out in Aleppo (1850, 1875), Damascus (1840, 1848, 1890), Beirut (1862, 1874), Dayr al-Qamar (1847), Jerusalem (1847), Cairo (1844, 1890, 1901–02), Mansura (1877), Alexandria (1870, 1882, 1901–07), Port Said (1903, 1908), Damanhur (1871, 1873, 1877, 1891), Istanbul (1870, 1874), Buyukdere (1864), Kuzguncuk (1866), Eyub (1868), Edirne (1872), Izmir (1872, 1874).

* 1864: Solica (Sulaika) Hachuel – The Moroccan Teenager Who Died for Her Jewish Faith.

* 1913, a prominent leader of the Palestinian anti-Zionist campaign, Sheikh Sulayman al-Taji Farouki, published a poem in ‘Falastin’, where he combined Islamic motifs from the Qur’an and hadith. Ottomans bsn the Fakastin or inciting racict hatred.

* 1929 Hebron massacre, animalistic massacre of non-Zionist Jews, body mutilation, rapes…

* 1933-46, by in large, Arab newspapers glorify Hitler.

* 1941 – June 1-2: Shavuot pogrom FARHOUD, after the Nazi propaganda by Fritz Grobba, al Sabawi’s Mein-Kampf into Arabic / Palestine Mufti al Husseini (and his hundreds of “Palestine” Arabs escaping the Brits, especially, Akram Zuaiter and Darwish al-Miqdadi) who escaped there from the Brits in 1937 – hate incitement intensified resulting in the Farhoud pogrom where some estimate up to a 1,000 died. Children were thrown in the waters in front of parents, mass rapes.

* 1939-41, Ahmad Shukairy [Shukeiri] would testify in his book that he and the Arabs in Palestine were cheering for praying for Hitler. He himself had justified the Holocaust in 1946 with Jamal Husseini, who, together with the Mufti, had established the HitlerYouth modeled Futuwwa in 1935.

* 1942, February poll, 88% if Palestine Arabs supports the Axis. August CIA report, most Arabs in Palestine are anti-Jews await Nazi-Germany’s field marshal Erwin Rommel.

* 1941-45, The Mufti, with his entourage of 60 worked for Hitler; incited to kill Jews “wherever they are”; lead Moslem SS; prevented Jewish children from escaping death to Mandatory Palestine; urged the Nazis to bomb Tel-Aviv, toured Trebbin concentration camp; plotted an Auchwitz modeled crematorium in Dotan Valley.

* 1947/8, Ex Nazis train and help Arabs fighting the Jews.​


And you don't want to know how Jews suffered in the Yemen for centuries - cruel torture.

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No! The Jews were not ‘living happily’ in Arab lands.


Lewis, B. (2014). The Jews of Islam: Updated Edition. United States: Princeton University Press.

Gilbert, M. (2010). In Ishmael's House: A History of Jews in Muslim Lands. United Kingdom: Yale University Press.

The Dhimmi : Jews and Christians under Islam. (1985). London: Fairleigh Dickinson University Press.

The Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-Muslims. (2010). United States: Prometheus Books.
 
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Thus half was good in part. But not connected to Arab settlers in Israel/Palestine.

You're confusing Moroccans with Arabia Arabs who stoke Jews' land.

You are also avoiding the 1941 Farhoud massacre by your Mufti - Hitler's pal.

Then again, each some 50 years there was an Arab anti Jewish pogrom...

And you don't know how Jews suffered on the Yemen for centuries.
there was no time in history that jews were afforded = rights in
muslim countries-----in medieval times jews simply traveled from ----very bad to a little bit better. In fact there were numerous flights FROM those places invaded by the minions of
the rapist of Mecca as soon as those unfortunate episodes took place. The Jews of India are escapees from the minions of the rapist when they invaded Babylon. The "refuge" in muslim countries is islamo nazi propaganda
 
there was no time in history that jews were afforded = rights in
muslim countries-----in medieval times jews simply traveled from ----very bad to a little bit better. In fact there were numerous flights FROM those places invaded by the minions of
the rapist of Mecca as soon as those unfortunate episodes took place. The Jews of India are escapees from the minions of the rapist when they invaded Babylon. The "refuge" in muslim countries is islamo nazi propaganda
Bostom's book is very vital.
 
If they are able to determine it from the footage - no wonder the antisemites are wearing masks - they should be charged with ATTEMPTED MURDER.


I really hate that crap in Israel bleeds over into the US. There's no excuse for it. American Jews are not responsible for Gaza.
 
I really hate that crap in Israel bleeds over into the US. There's no excuse for it. American Jews are not responsible for Gaza.
Islam is responsible for the ethos of HAMAS
and its actions. Hamas is responsible for the carnage wrecked on people living in Gaza. All people who fail to REPUDIATE
Hamas are murderers in the same way that all who failed to
repudiate AL NABI ADOLF HITLER are murderers as are all
those who sponsored the Catholic Inquisition which was
entirely responsible for the genocide of MILLIONS
 
Oh boy does anyone read GRAU Hitler admiration copy pasted over and over and over again?
Also, I can’t help notice how when an innocent Jewish girl is beaten unconscious by antisemitic pro-Palestinians, the response is for Jew-haters like Grau Hitler to come out and start demonizing Jews.
 
Also, I can’t help notice how when an innocent Jewish girl is beaten unconscious by antisemitic pro-Palestinians, the response is for Jew-haters like Grau Hitler to come out and start demonizing Jews.
Nothing new. She is emulating Saint Constantine and his
doppelganger, muhummad, followed by muhummad's
admirer---Adolf
 
As long as the Israelis do not stop and extinguish all of them I do not care, they picked that fight!

The US paid 5000 Israeli settlers $250,000 per family to leave Gaza. Some families received more money. This isn't a new problem that Hamas started. This has been going on since the 1920s when the Zionist terror gangs first organized.
 

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