Joe Biden did not recieve one penny from his son's biz deals

[Rumpole]

“10% for the big guy.”

Shit talk on a email is not evidence.

It might be something for a query, but that's it.

 

[Rumpole]

Oh, noes, not a Chinese Spy Balloon! (which was shot down, by the way)

I mean, are you fucking serious?

I am, but since you haven't provided evidence, clearly you are not.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Shit talk on a email is not evidence.

It might be something for a query, but that's it.

Rumphole.... you're looking ridiculous

In what world is a crackhead receiving millions from foreign governments

 

[Rumpole]

Communist Chinese manipulating a pig coronavirus that links to Hunter Biden's investment in Metabiota is enough suspicion for some of us. Your not educated enough on Chinese topics to credibly comment.

innuendo is not evidence Joe Biden profited.

Sorry


no evidence has been provided.

Here's the deal: Republicans do not understand what hard evidence is.
Innuendo, suspicion, SARs, are NOT hard evidence. By hard evidence I mean the kind of evidence
that is conclusive.

It doesn't exist.

SARs are not evidence, it says so right on the government website:

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/library/reports/cornerstone/cornerstone2-2.pdf

Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

House Oversight chair alleges Biden family members benefited from foreign payments, but shows no ties to the president.

time.com

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

CONCLUSION
There is no evidence Joe Biden has received large sums of money from China or has otherwise gained wealth as a result of his son's business dealings abroad.

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

www.cnn.com

no evidence that President Biden received any money.

Opinion | The Biden Family Business

A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.

www.wsj.com

Jared was Senior WH staff and made over $100 million from the saudis.

Hunter is a private citizen. What Hunter did was legal.

 

[progressive hunter]

That's the claim, but no evidence has been provided.

Here's the deal: Republicans do not understand what hard evidence is.
Innuendo, suspicion, SARs, are NOT hard evidence. By hard evidence I mean the kind of evidence
that is conclusive.

It doesn't exist.


Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

House Oversight chair alleges Biden family members benefited from foreign payments, but shows no ties to the president.

time.com

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

CONCLUSION
There is no evidence Joe Biden has received large sums of money from China or has otherwise gained wealth as a result of his son's business dealings abroad.

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

www.cnn.com

no evidence that President Biden received any money.

Opinion | The Biden Family Business

A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.

www.wsj.com

you are going to have to do better than CNN and NYT,, they admit they dont use common journalistic practices by vetting their stories,,

 

[Rumpole]

Rumphole.... you're looking ridiculous

In what world is a crackhead receiving millions from foreign governments

You talk shit, but you do not provide evidence.

Fail.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

First, if you are going to whine about this being too long, go away. This is a complicated subject, and it can't be dealt with in 25 words or less. Have fun reading the constitution, for the federalist papers, they are a lot longer than my post.

Now then, for you serious folks......

Repubs are so disingenuous, they say 'Biden family this' Biden family that' trying to IMPLY Joe Biden is part of it.

HE isn't.

Joe Biden received nothing. No one anywhere, let alone on this forum, have produced evidence Joe Biden recieved money from his sibling's biz deals.

As for 'influence peddling' that's just an opinion, not a fact. You'll need to prove one of Hunter's associates benefitted directly from policies made by Joe Biden that were the result of meetings and deals made. I haven't seen any evidence of it, so far.

If it is your opinion, fine, say it is your opinion, you are entitled to it, but don't allege as fact without evidence.

Hunter is a private citizen, who is allowed to do business wherever he pleases. It is not illegal.

Trading off the family name? Okay, Hunter admits that, so do a lot of siblings of famous people do this, it's common, and not illegal.

You want to argue he didn't register as FARA? Fine, but it is not likely the DOJ will prosecute Hunter for just that one, they'll want more serious crimes to go with it and the DOJ (US atty Delaware David Weiss) ahs been investigating Hunter Biden for over 3 years, and so far, they haven't indicted him for anything.

A few of you were whining that Hunter has '20 LLCs'.

Okay,

Trump has 500 LLCs

Hunter made foreign business deals.

so? He's a private citizen.

Trump was president.

Trump made $160,000,000 off of foreign business deals when he was in office

Trump made up to $160 million from foreign countries as president - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Trump and his company pledged to pause foreign business. They did not.

www.citizensforethics.org

Remember he promised not to do this?

As for shell companies.....

Trump has 500 such accounts.

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us

Trump org was INDICTED for "tax fraud'.

Trump's charity was shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump was fined $2million bucks for 'embezzling funds for private use'.

Trump had to settle for $25,000,000 for a fake university which scammed thousands out of millions.

Trump was made liable for sexual abuse and defamation and must pay $5,000,000 and is indicted on 34 felony counts in NY.

Jared filed with the FEC, he's got $3 billion in the fund, and most of it came from the Saudis.

https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/ADV/315482/PDF/315482.pdf

You'll find Jared's name on the document on page 28. The fund's holdings are listed in several places.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.htm

The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

But, speaking of China, it appears the Kushners are doing fine over there, as well:

Kushner Family Stands to Gain From Visa Rules in Trump’s First Major Law (Published 2017)

In fact, Kushner Companies — when Mr. Kushner was still at the helm — had received $50 million in EB-5 financing for a separate New Jersey project, a Trump-branded luxury high-rise tower in Jersey City that opened late last year.

On Monday, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, called the visa program “a stark conflict of interest for the Trump White House.” Meanwhile, the ethics watchdog group Democracy 21 called for Mr. Kushner to recuse himself from all policy dealing with China. The group had previously called for Mr. Kushner to make public a full list of his family firm’s overseas business partners and lenders as well as a full divestiture of his business assets into a blind trust.

See, the difference is that Jared was a Senior WH official.

Hunter Biden was and is a private citizen.

But, of course, you on the right don't seem to give a damn about pertinent facts.

Are you paid by the word?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

You talk shit, but you do not provide evidence.

Fail.

LoL. You're looking even more ridiculous.

But carry on if you must

 

[Rumpole]

you are going to have to do better than CNN and NYT,, they admit they dont use common journalistic practices by vetting their stories,,

NYT has over 125 pulitzers, using the highest journalistic standards.


Compared to what, Gateway Pundit Fox news?

Even the Wall Street Journal agrees there is no evidence against Joe Biden

no evidence that President Biden received any money.

Opinion | The Biden Family Business

A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.

www.wsj.com

Jared was Senior WH staff and made over $100 million from the saudis.

Hunter is a private citizen. What Hunter did was legal.

 

[Couchpotato]

First, if you are going to whine about this being too long, go away. This is a complicated subject, and it can't be dealt with in 25 words or less. Have fun reading the constitution, for the federalist papers, they are a lot longer than my post.

Now then, for you serious folks......

Repubs are so disingenuous, they say 'Biden family this' Biden family that' trying to IMPLY Joe Biden is part of it.

HE isn't.

Joe Biden received nothing. No one anywhere, let alone on this forum, have produced evidence Joe Biden recieved money from his sibling's biz deals.

As for 'influence peddling' that's just an opinion, not a fact. You'll need to prove one of Hunter's associates benefitted directly from policies made by Joe Biden that were the result of meetings and deals made. I haven't seen any evidence of it, so far.

If it is your opinion, fine, say it is your opinion, you are entitled to it, but don't allege as fact without evidence.

Hunter is a private citizen, who is allowed to do business wherever he pleases. It is not illegal.

Trading off the family name? Okay, Hunter admits that, so do a lot of siblings of famous people do this, it's common, and not illegal.

You want to argue he didn't register as FARA? Fine, but it is not likely the DOJ will prosecute Hunter for just that one, they'll want more serious crimes to go with it and the DOJ (US atty Delaware David Weiss) ahs been investigating Hunter Biden for over 3 years, and so far, they haven't indicted him for anything.

A few of you were whining that Hunter has '20 LLCs'.

Okay,

Trump has 500 LLCs

Hunter made foreign business deals.

so? He's a private citizen.

Trump was president.

Trump made $160,000,000 off of foreign business deals when he was in office

Trump made up to $160 million from foreign countries as president - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Trump and his company pledged to pause foreign business. They did not.

www.citizensforethics.org

Remember he promised not to do this?

As for shell companies.....

Trump has 500 such accounts.

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us

Trump org was INDICTED for "tax fraud'.

Trump's charity was shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump was fined $2million bucks for 'embezzling funds for private use'.

Trump had to settle for $25,000,000 for a fake university which scammed thousands out of millions.

Trump was made liable for sexual abuse and defamation and must pay $5,000,000 and is indicted on 34 felony counts in NY.

Jared filed with the FEC, he's got $3 billion in the fund, and most of it came from the Saudis.

https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/ADV/315482/PDF/315482.pdf

You'll find Jared's name on the document on page 28. The fund's holdings are listed in several places.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.htm

The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

But, speaking of China, it appears the Kushners are doing fine over there, as well:

Kushner Family Stands to Gain From Visa Rules in Trump’s First Major Law (Published 2017)

In fact, Kushner Companies — when Mr. Kushner was still at the helm — had received $50 million in EB-5 financing for a separate New Jersey project, a Trump-branded luxury high-rise tower in Jersey City that opened late last year.

On Monday, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, called the visa program “a stark conflict of interest for the Trump White House.” Meanwhile, the ethics watchdog group Democracy 21 called for Mr. Kushner to recuse himself from all policy dealing with China. The group had previously called for Mr. Kushner to make public a full list of his family firm’s overseas business partners and lenders as well as a full divestiture of his business assets into a blind trust.

See, the difference is that Jared was a Senior WH official.

Hunter Biden was and is a private citizen.

But, of course, you on the right don't seem to give a damn about pertinent facts.

Oh look it's a what about post.

Here's the thing. The Trumps were stupidly wealthy long before ole Donnie decided to run for President. So even if they are benefiting I don't think Trump having been in the Oval Office had nearly the impact it has on Biden's family and Hunter specifically. And Trump and his family doing it doesnt justify Biden or anyone else doing it so....

As far as Hunter or Biden's brother (and whoever else in his family has been trading on his name) goes it's not illegal and I highly doubt there as bank account with Joe's name on it where they have stashed millions of dollars from these schemes even if they exist/existed. But acting like Joe doesn't benefit from his immediate family making millions of dollars is fantasy. And anyone who doesn't think Hunter has gotten rich off his daddy being a powerful politician is fooling themselves.

 

[Rumpole]

Are you paid by the word?

If you have a counter argument, please provide it.

But, of course, you don't have shit.

 

[progressive hunter]

That's the claim, but no evidence has been provided.

Here's the deal: Republicans do not understand what hard evidence is.
Innuendo, suspicion, SARs, are NOT hard evidence. By hard evidence I mean the kind of evidence
that is conclusive.

It doesn't exist.


Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

House Oversight chair alleges Biden family members benefited from foreign payments, but shows no ties to the president.

time.com

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

CONCLUSION
There is no evidence Joe Biden has received large sums of money from China or has otherwise gained wealth as a result of his son's business dealings abroad.

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

www.cnn.com

no evidence that President Biden received any money.

Opinion | The Biden Family Business

A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.

www.wsj.com

watch this,, glen goes through the things cnn and nyt got wrong and what they left out that debunks everything they say,,

 

[progressive hunter]

NYT has over 125 pulitzers, using the highest journalistic standards.


Compared to what, Gateway Pundit Fox news?

Even the Wall Street Journal agrees there is no evidence against Joe Biden

no evidence that President Biden received any money.

Opinion | The Biden Family Business

A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.

www.wsj.com

Jared was Senior WH staff and made over $100 million from the saudis.

Hunter is a private citizen. What Hunter did was legal.

doesnt matter what they have,, they got it wrong and left stuff out to maintain the lie,,

watch the video I provided,,

 

[badger2]

That's the claim, but no evidence has been provided.

Here's the deal: Republicans do not understand what hard evidence is.
Innuendo, suspicion, SARs, are NOT hard evidence. By hard evidence I mean the kind of evidence
that is conclusive.

It doesn't exist.

SARs are not evidence, it says so right on the government website:

https://www.ice.gov/doclib/news/library/reports/cornerstone/cornerstone2-2.pdf

Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

Comer Swings and Misses on Allegations of Influence Peddling

House Oversight chair alleges Biden family members benefited from foreign payments, but shows no ties to the president.

time.com

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden

House Republican Report Finds No Evidence of Wrongdoing by President Biden (Published 2023)

After months of investigation and many public accusations of corruption against Mr. Biden and his family, the first report of the premier House G.O.P. inquiry showed no proof of such misconduct.

www.nytimes.com

CONCLUSION
There is no evidence Joe Biden has received large sums of money from China or has otherwise gained wealth as a result of his son's business dealings abroad.

CNN's Facts First searchable database - CNN

Search CNN’s Facts First database for fact checks related to the U.S. economy, mail-in voting, coronavirus, police reform and more.

www.cnn.com

no evidence that President Biden received any money.

Opinion | The Biden Family Business

A House report shows how Hunter and relatives profited while Joe was Vice President.

www.wsj.com

Jared was Senior WH staff and made over $100 million from the saudis.

Hunter is a private citizen. What Hunter did was legal.

You miss other important points because you cathect on the stick-and-carrot of hard evidence. Voters know how to process their mother tongue, and information anarchy is creeping up, accumulating, and ready to take you from behind, that may influence 2024 voters apart from hard evidence.

 

[Rumpole]

Oh look it's a what about post.

Here's the thing. The Trumps were stupidly wealthy long before ole Donnie decided to run for President. So even if they are benefiting I don't think Trump having been in the Oval Office had nearly the impact it has on Biden's family and Hunter specifically.

Joe Biden made no money from his son's biz deals. Whatever money Hunter made, he's a private citizen
jared made over $100 million from the saudis, as SENIOR WH STAFF.

As far as Hunter or Biden's brother (and whoever else in his family has been trading on his name) goes it's not illegal and I highly doubt there as bank account with Joe's name on it where they have stashed millions of dollars from these schemes even if they exist/existed.

But Joe Biden does have a bank account, and that money would have to have reached him for the claims against him to be true, and thus far, no evidence has been provided.

But acting like Joe doesn't benefit from his immediate family making millions of dollars is fantasy. And anyone who doesn't think Hunter has gotten rich off his daddy being a powerful politician is fooling themselves.

Claiming a fact that has no evidence is fantasy.

 

[Rumpole]

doesnt matter what they have,, they got it wrong and left stuff out to maintain the lie,,

watch the video I provided,,

It doesn't show or prove that Joe Biden made money from his son's dealings.

Hunter made money, but it's legal for a private citizen to do business abroad.

Jared made over $100 million from the saudis, but you don't seem to care about that.

 

[progressive hunter]

Joe Biden made no money from his son's biz deals. Whatever money Hunter made, he's a private citizen
jared made over $100 million from the saudis, as SENIOR WH STAFF.

But Joe Biden does have a bank account, and that money would have to have reached him for the claims against him to be true, and thus far, no evidence has been provided.


Claiming a fact that has no evidence is fantasy.

thats all a proven lie ,,

 

[progressive hunter]

It doesn't show or prove that Joe Biden made money from his son's dealings.

Hunter made money, but it's legal for a private citizen to do business abroad.

Jared made over $100 million from the saudis, but you don't seem to care about that.

how would you know if you didnt watch it??

 

[Dogmaphobe]

If you have a counter argument, please provide it.

But, of course, you don't have shit.

You are a true believer. Just like the religious fundie thumping on their bible while screaming that Satan put dinosaur bones on the Earth to fool us, you are impervious to anything contrary to your fundamentalism.

When people arrive at hard, fixed positions that were not the result of reason to begin with, it is a fruitless endeavor to try to reason them out of such fixed views.

 

[JustAGuy1]

First, if you are going to whine about this being too long, go away. This is a complicated subject, and it can't be dealt with in 25 words or less. Have fun reading the constitution, for the federalist papers, they are a lot longer than my post.

Now then, for you serious folks......

Repubs are so disingenuous, they say 'Biden family this' Biden family that' trying to IMPLY Joe Biden is part of it.

HE isn't.

Joe Biden received nothing. No one anywhere, let alone on this forum, have produced evidence Joe Biden recieved money from his sibling's biz deals.

As for 'influence peddling' that's just an opinion, not a fact. You'll need to prove one of Hunter's associates benefitted directly from policies made by Joe Biden that were the result of meetings and deals made. I haven't seen any evidence of it, so far.

If it is your opinion, fine, say it is your opinion, you are entitled to it, but don't allege as fact without evidence.

Hunter is a private citizen, who is allowed to do business wherever he pleases. It is not illegal.

Trading off the family name? Okay, Hunter admits that, so do a lot of siblings of famous people do this, it's common, and not illegal.

You want to argue he didn't register as FARA? Fine, but it is not likely the DOJ will prosecute Hunter for just that one, they'll want more serious crimes to go with it and the DOJ (US atty Delaware David Weiss) ahs been investigating Hunter Biden for over 3 years, and so far, they haven't indicted him for anything.

A few of you were whining that Hunter has '20 LLCs'.

Okay,

Trump has 500 LLCs

Hunter made foreign business deals.

so? He's a private citizen.

Trump was president.

Trump made $160,000,000 off of foreign business deals when he was in office

Trump made up to $160 million from foreign countries as president - CREW | Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington

Trump and his company pledged to pause foreign business. They did not.

www.citizensforethics.org

Remember he promised not to do this?

As for shell companies.....

Trump has 500 such accounts.

What Trump's disclosure of his 500 LLCs can and can't tell us

Trump org was INDICTED for "tax fraud'.

Trump's charity was shut down for 'illegal activity' Trump was fined $2million bucks for 'embezzling funds for private use'.

Trump had to settle for $25,000,000 for a fake university which scammed thousands out of millions.

Trump was made liable for sexual abuse and defamation and must pay $5,000,000 and is indicted on 34 felony counts in NY.

Jared filed with the FEC, he's got $3 billion in the fund, and most of it came from the Saudis.

https://reports.adviserinfo.sec.gov/reports/ADV/315482/PDF/315482.pdf

You'll find Jared's name on the document on page 28. The fund's holdings are listed in several places.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/10/us/jared-kushner-saudi-investment-fund.htm

The Saudi documents obtained by The Times say that in return for its investment, the Saudi fund would receive a stake of at least 28 percent in Mr. Kushner’s main investment vehicle.

But, speaking of China, it appears the Kushners are doing fine over there, as well:

Kushner Family Stands to Gain From Visa Rules in Trump’s First Major Law (Published 2017)

In fact, Kushner Companies — when Mr. Kushner was still at the helm — had received $50 million in EB-5 financing for a separate New Jersey project, a Trump-branded luxury high-rise tower in Jersey City that opened late last year.

On Monday, Senator Dianne Feinstein, Democrat of California, called the visa program “a stark conflict of interest for the Trump White House.” Meanwhile, the ethics watchdog group Democracy 21 called for Mr. Kushner to recuse himself from all policy dealing with China. The group had previously called for Mr. Kushner to make public a full list of his family firm’s overseas business partners and lenders as well as a full divestiture of his business assets into a blind trust.

See, the difference is that Jared was a Senior WH official.

Hunter Biden was and is a private citizen.

But, of course, you on the right don't seem to give a damn about pertinent facts.

Good lord. You have no idea what he did or didn't. Just grow up