Joe Biden thinks Snowden is a hero

[Votto]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMfhC4CwUnM]Biden Says Don't Trust a Spying President - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Lakhota]

I love it when Fox doctors videos to feed the mushrooms. Hilarious...

 

[Votto]

I love it when Fox doctors videos to feed the mushrooms. Hilarious...

I suppose questioning whether he said it or not is your only defense. So be it.

 

[Moonglow]

Biden is an old goat ready for the pasture.

 

[Votto]

Biden is an old goat ready for the pasture.

Yes, but that was 20 years ago.

 

[flacaltenn]

This thread is so freaking priceless. How cum he was soooo smart then and so dumb now?

Do you have to give up 35 IQ points to join a Democrat Administration? Or is a universal law that the
minority opposition is always smarter?

 

[Votto]

This thread is so freaking priceless. How cum he was soooo smart then and so dumb now?

Do you have to give up 35 IQ points to join a Democrat Administration? Or is a universal law that the
minority opposition is always smarter?

Now, now, Lakhota has made the accusation that the video was tampered with and I'm prepared to give Lakhota the benefit of the doubt.

What I can't figure out though, is why Fox news seems to target Joe Biden.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hZtW_q_6Ug]Joe Biden Gaffe Blooper Mix - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Geaux4it]

Obama must of shared some Old Thunderbird with Biden.

-Geaux

 

[Moonglow]

This thread is so freaking priceless. How cum he was soooo smart then and so dumb now?

Do you have to give up 35 IQ points to join a Democrat Administration? Or is a universal law that the
minority opposition is always smarter?

age is my guess.

 

[Votto]

This is my all time favorite picture of Biden, doctored by Fox news no doubt.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Snowden IS a hero.

 

[Votto]

Being on a ticket with Joe Biden, it us rumored that Obama has often been heard crying himself to sleep on occasion, while singing, "Obammaself".

 

[waltky]

Terrorists Change Behavior After Leaks...

Terrorists change behavior after leaks, lawmaker says
June 14, 2013 > A top Republican lawmaker claimed Thursday terrorists have already started to change their behavior after a self-described NSA whistleblower leaked information about classified U.S. surveillance programs to various media outlets, saying the leaks may make it "harder to track bad guys."

The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., declined to provide specifics on what terrorists he was referring to, only saying there are "changes we can already see being made by the folks who wish to do us harm, and our allies harm." He also said the revelations might "make it harder to track bad guys trying to harm U.S. citizens in the United States." Former National Security Agency contractor Edward Snowden made headlines worldwide after he leaked information about two NSA programs that collect millions of telephone records and track Internet activity. Snowden fled to Hong Kong in May and has granted some interviews since then, saying he hopes to stay there and fight any charges that may yet be filed against him.

The ranking Democrat on the committee, Rep. C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger of Maryland, said he's concerned that Snowden fled to Hong Kong because of China's history of spying on the U.S. "It seems unusual that he would be in China and asking for the protection of the Chinese government ... but we're going to investigate," Ruppersberger said. Rogers added, "Clearly, we're going to make a thorough scrub of what his China connections are." Rogers and Ruppersberger spoke to reporters after a closed committee briefing with the NSA's director, Gen. Keith Alexander, who said he hopes to declassify details of dozens of attacks disrupted by the programs. Alexander said officials don't want to "cause another terror attack by giving out too much information."

Officials have thrown out widely varying numbers of the attacks they say the broad surveillance of Americans' phone and online usage has thwarted. On Wednesday, Alexander said dozens have been stopped. Ruppersberger said the surveillance "has thwarted 10 possible terrorist attacks," then amended that number to be in line with Alexander's statement. In the initial days after the disclosures of the programs, officials cited one case. The disclosures raised privacy concerns as Americans -- some of them members of Congress -- learned for the first time the extent of surveillance powers granted by the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to help U.S. intelligence and law enforcement agencies track terrorists.

Investigators have been trying to determine which facilities the 29-year-old Snowden visited during his intelligence career to decide how much classified data he had access to as a computer systems analyst for the NSA and earlier for the CIA, according to two congressional staffers. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to describe the investigation publicly. "It's clear he attempted to go places he was not authorized to go," within the classified systems, Rogers said. He called Snowden "a fairly low-level individual, but because of his position in the IT system had access to certain pieces of information that, candidly, he did not understand, or had the full scope of what these programs where, who decided on his own he was going to release this information."

Read more: Terrorists change behavior after leaks, lawmaker says | Fox News

 

[waltky]

Chinese protesters rally in support of Snowden...

Hong Kong protesters rally to support Snowden
Saturday 15th June, 2013 > Protestors have come out in force in Hong Kong to urge the government not to extradite Edward Snowden to the US for his revelations about the PRISM surveillance programme.

The protesters shouted slogans as they staged their rally in the rain-hit Chinese city on Saturday. Snowden, 29, was staying in Hong Kong when he blew the whistle on the secret electronic surveillance operation that was being used on the citizens of the United States and other countries.

Many of the protesters were pro-democracy lawmakers, activists and expatriates, especially from the United States. They marched to the US consulate where they raised banners calling for Snowden to be protected while he is living in Hong Kong. Some of the banners read: "Defend Free Speech" and "No Extradition".

At the embassy a letter was handed to a representative for Consul General Steve Young, which said: "For many years, the US State Department has publicly supported the cause of Internet freedom and criticised other governments for conducting cyber attacks, surveillance and censorship. We now understand, through recent revelations, that the US government has been operating their own blanket surveillance systems and allegedly conducting cyber warfare against Hong Kong. This is a violation of Human Rights of people of Hong Kong and around the world."

The United States intends launching a criminal investigation into Snowden, a former contractor to the CIA. The government will allege he leaked details of Washington's secret Internet and telephone surveillance programmes.

Hong Kong protesters rally to support Snowden | Big News Network

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US electronic snooping may hurt ties with China
Thursday 13th June, 2013 - China's state media, after days of quiet over exposed US electronic surveillance, Thursday warned that the controversial disclosures could damage relations between the two countries.

Reports in state-owned media are considered to be next only to an official response. "The massive US global surveillance programme revealed by a former National Security Agency employee in Hong Kong is certain to stain Washington's overseas image and test developing Sino-US ties," the state-run China Daily said in an article. It cited analysts to support the claim of threat to the bilateral US-China ties.

It quoted Li Haidong, a researcher of American studies at China Foreign Affairs University, warning of the impact the disclosure could have on relations between the United States and China. "For months, Washington has been accusing China of cyber espionage, but it turns out that the biggest threat to the pursuit of individual freedom and privacy in the US is the unbridled power of the government," Li told the newspaper. Edward Snowden, the whistleblower of US' controversial electronic surveillance programme, is believed to be hiding in Hong Kong, the city administered by China, but which has a large degree of legal autonomy.

Newspapers in Hong Kong were full of stories related to Snowden who has galvanised support from human rights activists, who have vowed to fight the former CIA employee's possible extradition to the US. The Global Times, part of the Communist Party-run People's Daily group, called for assertive Chinese action to confront Washington in the wake of Snowden's disclosure. "Before the US government rushes to shut Snowden's mouth, China also needs to seek an explanation from Washington," the newspaper said in an editorial. "We are not bystanders. The issue of whether the U.S. as an Internet superpower has abused its powers touches on our vital interests directly."

Meanwhile, spokeswoman for China's Ministry of Foreign Affairs Hua Chunying Thursday refused to speak to reporters about the issue saying she had "no relevant information to supply". "Just like what I've repeated here multiple times, China is also a victim to the most sophisticated cyber hacking," she said. "We're willing to engage with the international community in constructive dialogue and cooperation so as to jointly safeguard the peace, security, openness and cooperation of the cyberspace."

US electronic snooping may hurt ties with China | Big News Network

 

[ScienceRocks]

China is going to use him for everything is he worth. Count on it.

 

[flacaltenn]

China is going to use him for everything is he worth. Count on it.

He is a Human Rights and Civil Rights trophy even with his mouth shut.. All he has to do is to confirm that the US govt has forsaken its protection of our freedoms. And keep talking about the dangers of excessive and EXTRA legal surveillance.

Strong-arming him --- or him SINGING --- would ruin the value of Civil Liberties champion..