Jordan responds to ISIS murder of Pilot by announcing execution of jihadist prisoners

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UAE crucial US ally has stopped attacks against IS i24news - See beyond

The divide between the United States and the UAE is significant because the country has been the United States’ most stalwart Arab ally in the fight against the Islamic State. Its collection of F-16s attacked the militants in northern Iraq and Syria from the Al Dhafra air base in the United Arab Emirates.

For the United States, keeping the United Arab Emirates on board is key; President Obama has insisted that the United States will not fight the Islamic State without help from Sunni Arabs.​

 

[deltex1]

UAE crucial US ally has stopped attacks against IS i24news - See beyond

The divide between the United States and the UAE is significant because the country has been the United States’ most stalwart Arab ally in the fight against the Islamic State. Its collection of F-16s attacked the militants in northern Iraq and Syria from the Al Dhafra air base in the United Arab Emirates.

For the United States, keeping the United Arab Emirates on board is key; President Obama has insisted that the United States will not fight the Islamic State without help from Sunni Arabs.​

Your thoughts go to the heart of the problem...an all encompassing strategy...after stepping back and taking the broadest view of the problem. The administration is lost...can't even define the problem no less coordinate a solution.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Real leaders lead by example instead of following the bad guy's lead/behavior. And eye for an eye just adds to the body count and doesn't actually solve anything.

Jordan was bargaining for their pilot with an offer of an exchange with captured terrorists and a promise to execute them if their pilot were executed. They had no choice but to follow through.

You bleeding heart Leftwats calling it revenge is just silly. By their own laws, they were fully in their right to carry out the prescribed penalty. Leftwats scream about justice unless it's being applied to their comrades in world evil.

Again, I have said nothing about what Jordan did, didn't do, should or should not do. Jordan's actions are irrelevant to the bigger picture. The issue, it has to be said yet again, apparently, is not executing captives. The issue is destroying ISIS as a political and military entity.

Yes. It's time for MIRV diplomacy. Experts are saying we need to deprive them of the territory they acquired, but that's wrong. Holding territory concentrates them geographically, whereas before they were just an ideology that couldn't be targeted. Give them a place to call home and then lay waste to the entire area with a single tactical nuke.

Well, that's just about the dumbest idea ever. Sorry, I cannot be kind about this.

PMH is wrong. Ideas can be killed. There are more bullets and bombs in the world than there are terrorists and these people can bleed and they can die. Therefore they can be stopped.

Many have believe that, and yet they have always been proved wrong.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I wonder what obama will do when ISIS burns our lady hostage, after gang raping her. Do they have the balls to do it? Does obama have the balls to respond?

Its a safe bet shes already been raped, and I fear what ISIS has planned for her will be far more gruesome than the fate of the Jordanian pilot.

There is a very simple strategy for this, if you have the stones that is, if you have the Will, and that is you yourself kill her and her captors. When taking a hostage means both you and they die, people won't.

We had the option of killing OBL...or retrieving him...same with the woman. If we can find her, we go in full force. If she dies...she would have died anyway. We just make sure all the bad guys are dead, along with the wives, children and goats.

Yes, because collective punishment is Christlike. You'd make a very good Zionist, and I'm sure that you already do.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

And that goes back to your previous question...who is the leader here. The leader is way behind, saying little, doing less, praying for January 21 2017.

Real leaders lead by example instead of following the bad guy's lead/behavior. And eye for an eye just adds to the body count and doesn't actually solve anything.

Jordan was bargaining for their pilot with an offer of an exchange with captured terrorists and a promise to execute them if their pilot were executed. They had no choice but to follow through.

You bleeding heart Leftwats calling it revenge is just silly. By their own laws, they were fully in their right to carry out the prescribed penalty. Leftwats scream about justice unless it's being applied to their comrades in world evil.

Again, I have said nothing about what Jordan did, didn't do, should or should not do. Jordan's actions are irrelevant to the bigger picture. The issue, it has to be said yet again, apparently, is not executing captives. The issue is destroying ISIS as a political and military entity.

ISIS is an idea. It cannot be destroyed by killing people. Only a better idea can defeat it.

Wrong. Kill the people with the idea and you kill the idea.

That has never been shown to be true, never, not even once.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Jordan was bargaining for their pilot with an offer of an exchange with captured terrorists and a promise to execute them if their pilot were executed. They had no choice but to follow through.

You bleeding heart Leftwats calling it revenge is just silly. By their own laws, they were fully in their right to carry out the prescribed penalty. Leftwats scream about justice unless it's being applied to their comrades in world evil.

Again, I have said nothing about what Jordan did, didn't do, should or should not do. Jordan's actions are irrelevant to the bigger picture. The issue, it has to be said yet again, apparently, is not executing captives. The issue is destroying ISIS as a political and military entity.

ISIS is an idea. It cannot be destroyed by killing people. Only a better idea can defeat it.

It's a lot easier to reject ideas than bullets.

Bullets don't kill ideas, only people, which you approve of and enjoy.

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

 

[deltex1]

Again, I have said nothing about what Jordan did, didn't do, should or should not do. Jordan's actions are irrelevant to the bigger picture. The issue, it has to be said yet again, apparently, is not executing captives. The issue is destroying ISIS as a political and military entity.

ISIS is an idea. It cannot be destroyed by killing people. Only a better idea can defeat it.

It's a lot easier to reject ideas than bullets.

Bullets don't kill ideas, only people, which you approve of and enjoy.

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

Sorry but most of your and ISIS' ideas are rejected. The few accepted are of no harm or exceptional consequence. Carry on.

 

[aris2chat]

It's almost impossible to do anything wrong when you're dealing with human filth like ISIS.

And that's why you are not in charge.

And that goes back to your previous question...who is the leader here. The leader is way behind, saying little, doing less, praying for January 21 2017.

Real leaders lead by example instead of following the bad guy's lead/behavior. And eye for an eye just adds to the body count and doesn't actually solve anything.

What is the value of the example of doing nothing?

Who said anything about doing nothing? You seem to believe that an eye for an eye is the only example to follow. Why is that?

Among the arab tribes that is the least they expect. To have done less might have incited a coup.

 

[aris2chat]

Odd that we teach this simple rule to our children and yet expect them to ignore it when they become adults. Bubba, it is not a liberal or conservative rule. Nor is it a simple grade-school idea. But let me ask you this. If a 5th grader can do it, why can't you?

If this were a play ground were the worst thing that might happen is a skinned knee, then it might be appropriate, mostly for the sake of small offences from turning into brawls. However, a playground has adult supervision. There are no adults supervising ISIS. The stakes here are a little greater than anything that goes on at a playground.

There are (theoretically), however, adults supervising U.S. actions.

Not that I've noticed.

If we are going to be the leader, then we should lead, not follow the example of the idiotic and criminally insane.

Who's we? Jordan executed those people not us, you need to take your gripe up with King Abdullah.

Both were scheduled to be executed. The video just moved the date up as a response to ISIS.
It was only the appetizer to show he was not indifferent.
Abdullah was a pilot like his father, so he understands the threat and how the family feel.

 

[HenryBHough]

I'm disappointed with Jordan for having hanged them.

They should have used a welding torch to burn a hole through each one. Then give them two weeks to heal and burn another hole. Repeat until there was too little left to.............

 

[PaintMyHouse]

ISIS is an idea. It cannot be destroyed by killing people. Only a better idea can defeat it.

It's a lot easier to reject ideas than bullets.

Bullets don't kill ideas, only people, which you approve of and enjoy.

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

Sorry but most of your and ISIS' ideas are rejected. The few accepted are of no harm or exceptional consequence. Carry on.

The ideas that I speak of are as old as dirt. The one ISIS is about as old, doing the Will of their God. That never goes out of style, unfortunately.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I'm disappointed with Jordan for having hanged them.

They should have used a welding torch to burn a hole through each one. Then give them two weeks to heal and burn another hole. Repeat until there was too little left to.............

Delightful. To say that you have no morals at all would be an understatement. Congrats on not becoming ISIS, but becoming worse than ISIS.

 

[deltex1]

It's a lot easier to reject ideas than bullets.

Bullets don't kill ideas, only people, which you approve of and enjoy.

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

Sorry but most of your and ISIS' ideas are rejected. The few accepted are of no harm or exceptional consequence. Carry on.

The ideas that I speak of are as old as dirt. The one ISIS is about as old, doing the Will of their God. That never goes out of style, unfortunately.

Sin...violating the standards that might otherwise allow man to live in peace, tranquility and equality...will be with us for a billion more years...so in that sense you are correct. Nontheless we must fight sin using churches, politics, economics and military measures as the situation dictates. Render to God the spiritual fight. Render to Spec Ops the military requirements...and slaughter the evil ones.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Bullets don't kill ideas, only people, which you approve of and enjoy.

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

Sorry but most of your and ISIS' ideas are rejected. The few accepted are of no harm or exceptional consequence. Carry on.

The ideas that I speak of are as old as dirt. The one ISIS is about as old, doing the Will of their God. That never goes out of style, unfortunately.

Sin...violating the standards that might otherwise allow man to live in peace, tranquility and equality...will be with us for a billion more years...so in that sense you are correct. Nontheless we must fight sin using churches, politics, economics and military measures as the situation dictates. Render to God the spiritual fight. Render to Spec Ops the military requirements...and slaughter the evil ones.

The faith of a person without any real faith, like most here.

 

[Desperado]

This 'kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out' is exactly why members of our 'coalition', UAE, get up and walk away. Besides unless anyone here is on the inside with the power brokers of the world there is no telling whose side we are on. Do we fight ISIS and possibly help Shia crescent or do we give ISIS the wink hoping to defeat the Shia crescent at the risk of having a Sunni caliphate run the ME. Its all about power and the money in the end so let the 1100 lb'ers fall where they will.
Job 5:6 Although affliction cometh not forth of the dust, neither doth trouble spring out of the ground

When we cannot even pick a side that is a good clue it is time for us to pack up and go home. Time to let them fight it out without any influence from the US

 

[deltex1]

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

Sorry but most of your and ISIS' ideas are rejected. The few accepted are of no harm or exceptional consequence. Carry on.

The ideas that I speak of are as old as dirt. The one ISIS is about as old, doing the Will of their God. That never goes out of style, unfortunately.

Sin...violating the standards that might otherwise allow man to live in peace, tranquility and equality...will be with us for a billion more years...so in that sense you are correct. Nontheless we must fight sin using churches, politics, economics and military measures as the situation dictates. Render to God the spiritual fight. Render to Spec Ops the military requirements...and slaughter the evil ones.

The faith of a person without any real faith, like most here.

The faith of a person whose seat in heaven is assured...and whose ass he wants protected here on earth. A delicate balance.

 

[RandomVariable]

This 'kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out' is exactly why members of our 'coalition', UAE, get up and walk away. Besides unless anyone here is on the inside with the power brokers of the world there is no telling whose side we are on. Do we fight ISIS and possibly help Shia crescent or do we give ISIS the wink hoping to defeat the Shia crescent at the risk of having a Sunni caliphate run the ME. Its all about power and the money in the end so let the 1100 lb'ers fall where they will.
Job 5:6 Although affliction cometh not forth of the dust, neither doth trouble spring out of the ground

When we cannot even pick a side that is a good clue it is time for us to pack up and go home. Time to let them fight it out without any influence from the US

Walking away is an option but that is not going to happen. What needs to be done is everyone determine what is best for everyone but that is not going to happen either. There is a third option however. It begins with WW.

 

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UAE crucial US ally has stopped attacks against IS i24news - See beyond

The divide between the United States and the UAE is significant because the country has been the United States’ most stalwart Arab ally in the fight against the Islamic State. Its collection of F-16s attacked the militants in northern Iraq and Syria from the Al Dhafra air base in the United Arab Emirates.

For the United States, keeping the United Arab Emirates on board is key; President Obama has insisted that the United States will not fight the Islamic State without help from Sunni Arabs.​

Your thoughts go to the heart of the problem...an all encompassing strategy...after stepping back and taking the broadest view of the problem. The administration is lost...can't even define the problem no less coordinate a solution.

There is on thing for sure. The administration does not like Israel. I think Boehner understood that asking Obama if Netanyahu could come over was going to get him a big fat NO. Boehner made the right call.

 

[Kondor3]

Two wrongs don't make a right, unless you are a Republican.

They don't care about right or wrong, they want blood, they want vengeance. They are bloodthirsty savages. Human history as the evening news.

It's almost impossible to do anything wrong when you're dealing with human filth like ISIS.

And that's why you are not in charge.

And that goes back to your previous question...who is the leader here. The leader is way behind, saying little, doing less, praying for January 21 2017.

Real leaders lead by example instead of following the bad guy's lead/behavior. And eye for an eye just adds to the body count and doesn't actually solve anything.

That looks really good on paper, and it even works sometimes, in dealing with sane cultures and belief systems.

The trick is, to recognize which are candidates for such treatment, and which are not.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

If you took one to the head where would your ideas go? In the shitter.

My specific versions of the ideas would go but since there is nothing new in the world, and since I have already spread them, they will live as long as humanity does.

Sorry but most of your and ISIS' ideas are rejected. The few accepted are of no harm or exceptional consequence. Carry on.

The ideas that I speak of are as old as dirt. The one ISIS is about as old, doing the Will of their God. That never goes out of style, unfortunately.

Sin...violating the standards that might otherwise allow man to live in peace, tranquility and equality...will be with us for a billion more years...so in that sense you are correct. Nontheless we must fight sin using churches, politics, economics and military measures as the situation dictates. Render to God the spiritual fight. Render to Spec Ops the military requirements...and slaughter the evil ones.

The faith of a person without any real faith, like most here.

I don't think you're in any position to judge somebody's faith, especially as you reject entire gospels because you don't like the author. Christians affirm the Bible and all the gospels by faith, so you don't even fit the minimum requirement to be called a Christian.

O ye of little faith.