Just Abolish The FCC

[jon_berzerk]

I completely agree. I was just thinking this myself the other day. There is absolutely no reason why we need the FCC. It's just another bunch of useless bureaucrats looking to grab power where they can.

With Its Mission Gone And Its Record Of Mischief, It's Time To Shut Down The FCC - Investors.com

I believe it's a public resource, like rivers or national parks or the air we breathe. And no matter how fucked up you think the FCC is I think some entity has to look after the public's interest. It's not surprising that Investors.com favors granting total control to the "free market". I'm sure they would favor granting right-to-breathe to the highest bidder. And no matter how fucked up government is I still think Lincoln got it right, "government of the people, by the people, for the people." We the people have to maintain our ownership rights to the most basic needs "of the people." And that includes the electro-magnetic spectrum.

Everything Government does starts with this excuse...too bad you and too many other buy into it.

not only buy into it

but expect it

and openly beg for it

 

[Wildman]

Yay, we can watch people fucking each other on t.v 24 hours a day for free!

hell man ! we see that every day now, if what this regime is doing to us citizens and our Constitution now isn't one big fuck-over, i would like to know what is a giant fuck-over is ??

any libs got a logical reply ?

 

[The T]

True, but of course, there is that enumerated power in the Constitution that requires the federal government to regulate speech and communication.

Oh wait, no there isn't.

Most of the advances occurred after the constitution was written.

None of which require government meddling outside the enumerated powers.

But if you feel such is necessary, you're free to advocate a Constitutional amendment.

Now which amendment allows regulation of speech and communication???

Oh that's right, there isn't one.

I don't think I want some money hungry corporation running things without any regulations.

Right, cuz consumer choice is bad. We should let central planners run things. They ALWAYS get it right...

Oh yeah you live in the past.

You advocate returning to the days of government that is not limited to certain specified powers, but I'M the one that lives in the past? You go with that comrade.

For Matt to state we want to return to the past and his reasoning shows directly he has zero understanding of the Founders, and the founding of this Republic. He certainly would have more liberty...but he is one of many that Ben Franklin described as deserving neither security or liberty for what he is far too willing to give up by boldness to leave his comfort zone to defend, namely his own liberty guaranteed in the Constitution.

Word to Matt...WISE UP.

 

[The T]

If you believe we shouldn't have a government...May I suggest Haiti or Somalia?

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. ~Thomas Paine
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Matt? Learn it, Live it, KNOW it.​

 

[JoeB131]

Originally The Federal Communications Comission was established PRIMARILY to bring order out of chaos. There were countless unlicensed stations operating on random frequencies "stepping all over each other" - making it difficult, in metropolitan areas, to successfully listen to any one for more than a few minutes at a time. Frequency stability was an issue and listeners sometimes had to constantly retune as the station wandered "up and down the dial".

There was a huge task at hand to work out spacings between stations on the same frequency; power levels according to service areas and assignment of call signs. .

That's all true. However, I believe that issue would have been solved through a combination of market forces and technological advancements. Government didn't have to get involved, they chose to.

Ahhh, the voice of plutocracy. Just let "the Market" work it out.

I think that's the problem we have now, 90% of the media is owned by about five companies. How is this a good thing, exactly?

 

[JoeB131]

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hell man ! we see that every day now, if what this regime is doing to us citizens and our Constitution now isn't one big fuck-over, i would like to know what is a giant fuck-over is ??

any libs got a logical reply ?

A giant fuckover is when Bush let the big banks run us all into massive debt and then made all that money disappear into a dark hole, requiring the rest of us to bail them out.

Seriously, guy, you need to stop listening to the Hate Radio and grow a brain.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

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hell man ! we see that every day now, if what this regime is doing to us citizens and our Constitution now isn't one big fuck-over, i would like to know what is a giant fuck-over is ??

any libs got a logical reply ?

A giant fuckover is when Bush let the big banks run us all into massive debt and then made all that money disappear into a dark hole, requiring the rest of us to bail them out.

Seriously, guy, you need to stop listening to the Hate Radio and grow a brain.

And of course O has surpassed bush debt by magnitudes and made all of that money disappear into his buddies pockets while the rest of us continued to get fleeced.

 

[JoeB131]

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hell man ! we see that every day now, if what this regime is doing to us citizens and our Constitution now isn't one big fuck-over, i would like to know what is a giant fuck-over is ??

any libs got a logical reply ?

A giant fuckover is when Bush let the big banks run us all into massive debt and then made all that money disappear into a dark hole, requiring the rest of us to bail them out.

Seriously, guy, you need to stop listening to the Hate Radio and grow a brain.

And of course O has surpassed bush debt by magnitudes and made all of that money disappear into his buddies pockets while the rest of us continued to get fleeced.

Um, not really, but I know you need to believe that.

 

[Sunshine]

The bright spot with the FCC is that it was created by Congress. It is not some untouchable administrative strong arm agency created by the Executive branch. Anything you don't like about the FCC, you can take to Congress.

The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is an independent agency of the United States government, created by Congressional statute (see 47 U.S.C. § 151 and 47 U.S.C. § 154) to regulate interstate and international communications by radio, television, wire, satellite and cable in all 50 states, the District of Columbia and U.S. territories.

Federal Communications Commission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This time 'the people' have a say. So, say it!

 

[eflatminor]

Originally The Federal Communications Comission was established PRIMARILY to bring order out of chaos. There were countless unlicensed stations operating on random frequencies "stepping all over each other" - making it difficult, in metropolitan areas, to successfully listen to any one for more than a few minutes at a time. Frequency stability was an issue and listeners sometimes had to constantly retune as the station wandered "up and down the dial".

There was a huge task at hand to work out spacings between stations on the same frequency; power levels according to service areas and assignment of call signs. .

That's all true. However, I believe that issue would have been solved through a combination of market forces and technological advancements. Government didn't have to get involved, they chose to.

Ahhh, the voice of plutocracy. Just let "the Market" work it out.

Your stance against voluntary choice is well known around here comrade Joe.

And once again, we're faced with the brilliance of your "Because I say so" retorts. You have zero evidence, facts, logic or reason to suggest that in the absence of the FCC, we would be ruled by the wealthy. Or should we just take your word for it???

Or is this another case for Captain Hyperbole?

I think that's the problem we have now, 90% of the media is owned by about five companies. How is this a good thing, exactly?

What...we have the FCC and a myriad of other government agencies meddling in media, just as you desire, yet we end up with the 'horrors' of 90% of the media owned by "about five companies"?

How is that possible?

Further, your statement is bullshit. There are THOUSANDS of media outlets. Care to demonstrate with specificity exactly how "90% of the media is owned by about five companies"? The floor is yours...

 

[eflatminor]

A giant fuckover is when Bush let the big banks run us all into massive debt and then made all that money disappear into a dark hole, requiring the rest of us to bail them out.

Seriously, guy, you need to stop listening to the Hate Radio and grow a brain.

And of course O has surpassed bush debt by magnitudes and made all of that money disappear into his buddies pockets while the rest of us continued to get fleeced.

Um, not really, but I know you need to believe that.

Not really HOW Joe?

Oh, sorry, is this another "Because you say so" argument?

How foolish of me to question...

 

[percysunshine]

There was a time when the US Postal Service was of such critical national importance that they could demand, and get, all the money they wanted from the purse holders in the Capitol building.

Not so much anymore.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Yay, we can watch people fucking each other on t.v 24 hours a day for free!

Don't we already get that with CSPAN or are you referring to NAMBLA's vision?

 

[namvet]

looks like Obozo peeps wanna control the media. didn't some guy named Hitler do it ???

 

[HenryBHough]

looks like Obozo peeps wanna control the media. didn't some guy named Hitler do it ???

You're not supposed to remember that fella.

Report for re-education at 0600 Monday, 24 February, 2014 comrade!

 

[SmedlyButler]

I completely agree. I was just thinking this myself the other day. There is absolutely no reason why we need the FCC. It's just another bunch of useless bureaucrats looking to grab power where they can.

With Its Mission Gone And Its Record Of Mischief, It's Time To Shut Down The FCC - Investors.com

I believe it's a public resource, like rivers or national parks or the air we breathe.

Ah yes, state run media. Excellent comrade, you are a credit to the motherland!

Even the most committed Randian (You come across as a poorly read Randian) cannot dismiss the public trust doctrine without dismissing history itself. It has been accepted in economic and legal theory since Roman Code. Public ownership of resources to one degree or another has not been negated by any rational economic thinker from Smith to Rand to Friedman. In English and U.S. common law it is a well established principle. So your facile retort insinuating an embrace of the concept as "socialism" or "communism" is childishly simplistic and demonstrates which one of us is arguing from subjective dogma without reference to reality.

 

[SmedlyButler]

If you believe we shouldn't have a government...May I suggest Haiti or Somalia?

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. ~Thomas Paine
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Matt? Learn it, Live it, KNOW it.​

Sooner or later ideas have to be discussed in the context of 21st century reality and not just 18th century thought, no matter how noble and enduring it may be. Progress my friend.

 

[eflatminor]

I believe it's a public resource, like rivers or national parks or the air we breathe.

Ah yes, state run media. Excellent comrade, you are a credit to the motherland!

Even the most committed Randian (You come across as a poorly read Randian) cannot dismiss the public trust doctrine without dismissing history itself. It has been accepted in economic and legal theory since Roman Code. Public ownership of resources to one degree or another has not been negated by any rational economic thinker from Smith to Rand to Friedman. In English and U.S. common law it is a well established principle. So your facile retort insinuating an embrace of the concept as "socialism" or "communism" is childishly simplistic and demonstrates which one of us is arguing from subjective dogma without reference to reality.

Boy did you miss the point.

I never dismissed the concept of the public trust doctrine. I dismissed the foolish and unfounded idea that speech and communication should have any part of that doctrine whatsoever. It does in totalitarian states...worked out beautifully there, don't ya think? Such Marxist nonsense has no place in a free society.

You're free to attempt to define reality anyway to like but how about arguing the specifics here? Tell us EXACTLY why we need the FCC. Be specific please and for everyone's sake, avoid 'childishly simplistic' arguing from subjective dogma without reference to reality...

Oh the irony!

 

[eflatminor]

If you believe we shouldn't have a government...May I suggest Haiti or Somalia?

Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one. ~Thomas Paine
​

Matt? Learn it, Live it, KNOW it.​

Sooner or later ideas have to be discussed in the context of 21st century reality and not just 18th century thought, no matter how noble and enduring it may be. Progress my friend.

Problem is that you're advocating central control, the status quo well BEFORE the 18th century and still found in totalitarian states today.

You were saying something about progress???

The irony here is thick...

 

[1776]

The bandwidth allocation of 500 MHz smells like kickbacks to rich people that supported Obama. The DoD is supposed to give up bandwidth which could put military operations at risk to EMI, lack of bandwidth, increased costs, etc.....so that Obama rich supporters can make more $$$ using that bandwidth with 4G and 5G services...