Kamala Harris Goes Full Commie, Threatens To ‘Snatch’ Drug Companies Patents

[rightwinger]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

If you believe insulin was cheaper 100 years ago, you are incredibly naive. Prior to the age of genetic engineering, the only way to get insulin was to refine it from the pancreases of horses. It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin. Idiots like you whine about the price of drugs, but the ones that were around prior to genetic engineering are a small fraction of the price now. Many other life saving drugs didn't even exist then.

And the process has been refined over the last 100 years
To the point where insulin injections were relatively inexpensive

Then the drug giants got greedy

 

[Weatherman2020]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

If you believe insulin was cheaper 100 years ago, you are incredibly naive. Prior to the age of genetic engineering, the only way to get insulin was to refine it from the pancreases of horses. It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin. Idiots like you whine about the price of drugs, but the ones that were around prior to genetic engineering are a small fraction of the price now. Many other life saving drugs didn't even exist then.

And the process has been refined over the last 100 years
To the point where insulin injections were relatively inexpensive

Then the drug giants got greedy

What’s insulin have to do with Commie Harris stealing private property?

 

[bripat9643]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

If you believe insulin was cheaper 100 years ago, you are incredibly naive. Prior to the age of genetic engineering, the only way to get insulin was to refine it from the pancreases of horses. It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin. Idiots like you whine about the price of drugs, but the ones that were around prior to genetic engineering are a small fraction of the price now. Many other life saving drugs didn't even exist then.

And the process has been refined over the last 100 years
To the point where insulin injections were relatively inexpensive

Then the drug giants got greedy

Wrong again, turd. "The process" hasn't been refined over the last 100 years. About 20 years ago they created an entirely new process that resulted from inventing genetically engineered yeast that incorporated the human gene for creating insulin in its DNA. Drug companies invested billions of dollars to achieve that. They deserve to get a return on it.

What a fucking dumbass.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?


If you want the same insulin they had 100 years ago, it's cheap.
The new insulin analogs are more expensive.

Does Walmart Sell Insulin for $25 a Vial Without a Prescription?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

If you believe insulin was cheaper 100 years ago, you are incredibly naive. Prior to the age of genetic engineering, the only way to get insulin was to refine it from the pancreases of horses. It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin. Idiots like you whine about the price of drugs, but the ones that were around prior to genetic engineering are a small fraction of the price now. Many other life saving drugs didn't even exist then.

It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin.

Cattle and pigs

The History of a Wonderful Thing We Call Insulin | ADA

 

[iceberg]

Patents are not private property. Patents would not exist if not for the government granting and issuing them. A patent is the government giving you protection against theft of your marketable ideas. American taxpayers pay for the patent office to issue and enforce your patents.

American patent holders have the strongest legal protections in the world, which is why drug companies and others file their patents in the USA and not their home countries. These patent rights will be protected and upheld by American courts and the American judicial system, which is also paid for by the American taxpayers.

So if American taxpayers are paying for the system which provides you with patent protection, and the judicial system which protects those patents for you, I think that they have the right to pull your patent protections if you have a life saving drug which costs $40 a dose to produce that you are selling to taxpayer funded hospitals, police departments and other public institutions for $4,000 a dose.

You bunch of dumb asses. Drug prices are cheap in other countries because America subsidizes the upfront cost of developing/testing new drugs. We do this because we are the only country wealthy enough to do it. So go ahead you stupid morons wipe out the drug companies then the poor in other countries will DIE because they can't afford the medications.

God you people are stupid. Avoid voting or operating an ice maker okay.

No they're not. Most of the drugs are being developed in Germany, Japan, and Europe and patented in the US. The development costs are being subsidized by their home governments. Only 36% of new drug patents are granted to American based companies. Americans buy 40% of all prescription drugs so that figure is in line with consumption.

US Pharmaceutical Innovation in an International Context

Before calling somone stupid, it might behove you to fact check before proving to the rest of us that you're a useless twat who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.



Insulin is a drug that is double the price in the USA to what it is in Canada. The patent for insulin was granted to Dr. Frederick Banting - a Canadian. The R&D was paid for by Banting and Best, in Canada. Banting donated the patent to the world. All of the R&D costs were paid in Canada

Move to Canada

I don't have to. I've lived here all of my life. I also don't have diabetes, but I have family and friends on both sides of the border who do and I know the costs.

Well then, tell us why we should give a fuck what you think about American politics.

or anything else.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Don’t snatch them

Just let them expire in ten years

20 years.

That's one reason why medication is so expensive.

Medication is so expensive because one pill can cost over a billion dollars.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Don’t snatch them

Just let them expire in ten years

That's not what she said.

That's the point of this thread.

So take your deflection somewhere else.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Don’t snatch them

Just let them expire in ten years

20 years.

That's one reason why medication is so expensive.

It's the main reason the medication exists at all.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Democrat presidential candidate Kamala Harris on if drug companies do not comply with her mandatory set drug prices: “I will snatch their patent so that we will take over”

Audience asks: “can we do that?”

“Yes, we can do that! Yes, we can do that! ... I have the will to do it”

Twitter

Nothing restores our sacred norms quite like the government seizing private property.

Patents are not private property. Patents would not exist if not for the government granting and issuing them. A patent is the government giving you protection against theft of your marketable ideas. American taxpayers pay for the patent office to issue and enforce your patents.

American patent holders have the strongest legal protections in the world, which is why drug companies and others file their patents in the USA and not their home countries. These patent rights will be protected and upheld by American courts and the American judicial system, which is also paid for by the American taxpayers.

So if American taxpayers are paying for the system which provides you with patent protection, and the judicial system which protects those patents for you, I think that they have the right to pull your patent protections if you have a life saving drug which costs $40 a dose to produce that you are selling to taxpayer funded hospitals, police departments and other public institutions for $4,000 a dose.

Sorry....but you don't think.

Go ahead and pull those patents and you won't see another new drug in your short lifetime.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Patents are not private property. Patents would not exist if not for the government granting and issuing them. A patent is the government giving you protection against theft of your marketable ideas. American taxpayers pay for the patent office to issue and enforce your patents.

American patent holders have the strongest legal protections in the world, which is why drug companies and others file their patents in the USA and not their home countries. These patent rights will be protected and upheld by American courts and the American judicial system, which is also paid for by the American taxpayers.

So if American taxpayers are paying for the system which provides you with patent protection, and the judicial system which protects those patents for you, I think that they have the right to pull your patent protections if you have a life saving drug which costs $40 a dose to produce that you are selling to taxpayer funded hospitals, police departments and other public institutions for $4,000 a dose.

You bunch of dumb asses. Drug prices are cheap in other countries because America subsidizes the upfront cost of developing/testing new drugs. We do this because we are the only country wealthy enough to do it. So go ahead you stupid morons wipe out the drug companies then the poor in other countries will DIE because they can't afford the medications.

God you people are stupid. Avoid voting or operating an ice maker okay.

No they're not. Most of the drugs are being developed in Germany, Japan, and Europe and patented in the US. The development costs are being subsidized by their home governments. Only 36% of new drug patents are granted to American based companies. Americans buy 40% of all prescription drugs so that figure is in line with consumption.

US Pharmaceutical Innovation in an International Context

Before calling somone stupid, it might behove you to fact check before proving to the rest of us that you're a useless twat who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.

Insulin is a drug that is double the price in the USA to what it is in Canada. The patent for insulin was granted to Dr. Frederick Banting - a Canadian. The R&D was paid for by Banting and Best, in Canada. Banting donated the patent to the world. All of the R&D costs were paid in Canada, and it current costs double in the USA to what it does in Canada.

It's well known that Canada does not take up new drug technology anywhere near as fast as the U.S. Consequently, if you were treated for a cancer in Canada it probably will be with drugs that are 3 or 4 generations behind what the U.S. would offer. That is true of many countries.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You bunch of dumb asses. Drug prices are cheap in other countries because America subsidizes the upfront cost of developing/testing new drugs. We do this because we are the only country wealthy enough to do it. So go ahead you stupid morons wipe out the drug companies then the poor in other countries will DIE because they can't afford the medications.

God you people are stupid. Avoid voting or operating an ice maker okay.

No they're not. Most of the drugs are being developed in Germany, Japan, and Europe and patented in the US. The development costs are being subsidized by their home governments. Only 36% of new drug patents are granted to American based companies. Americans buy 40% of all prescription drugs so that figure is in line with consumption.

US Pharmaceutical Innovation in an International Context

Before calling somone stupid, it might behove you to fact check before proving to the rest of us that you're a useless twat who doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground.



Insulin is a drug that is double the price in the USA to what it is in Canada. The patent for insulin was granted to Dr. Frederick Banting - a Canadian. The R&D was paid for by Banting and Best, in Canada. Banting donated the patent to the world. All of the R&D costs were paid in Canada

Move to Canada

I don't have to. I've lived here all of my life. I also don't have diabetes, but I have family and friends on both sides of the border who do and I know the costs.

If the Canadian system is so good, why does your Canadian Premier come to the USA for heart surgery?

Canadian Premier to come U.S. for heart surgery

This really was a huge scandal in Canada

He said that if he had had the surgery at home, he would have been accused of "jumping the line", because his was an urgent case and he would have had zero wait time, at a time when wait times were at crisis points. People would have claimed he didn't have to wait because he was rich and important. And he's right. They would have said that.

We have a "triage" system here. The Premier was sick enough that he needed to have the surgery yesterday. There would be no wait at all. So he opted to go to the USA and pay for it out of his own pocket. No one could claim abuse of power when he had heart surgery, even though he knew that he would be slammed for running from care in Canada.

He felt that being accused of snubbing Canadian health care was the lesser of two evils.

ETA: I used to have life threatening asthma. I went to hospital in extreme breathing distress once or twice a week in summer during those years. When the nurses saw me come in the door, they would take me immediately and leave everyone else in the waiting room who had been sitting there for hours. My husband completed my admitting papers. I couldn't talk anyway. If you can't breathe, you can't talk either..

If you have to wait - it's a good thing. It means you're not going to die. Triage.

I've been in Calagary where they've complained about a lack of doctors....and the impact that has on people....including some dying.

Cut the bullshit.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Well, I don't appreciate the drug companies' lobbying to prevent Americans from being able to buy drugs directly from Canada and other nations, and I didn't appreciate their lobbying to include a clause in Obamacare that made several OTC drugs prescription drugs. Big Pharma does not have a good track record when it comes to doing what's best for consumers. That said, under the Constitution, the government has no right to take any company's patent. Of course, Democrats like Harris could not care less about the Constitution.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Well, I don't appreciate the drug companies' lobbying to prevent Americans from being able to buy drugs directly from Canada and other nations, and I didn't appreciate their lobbying to include a clause in Obamacare that made several OTC drugs prescription drugs. Big Pharma does not have a good track record when it comes to doing what's best for consumers. That said, under the Constitution, the government has no right to take any company's patent. Of course, Democrats like Harris could not care less about the Constitution.

Why would she.....she's never read the damn thing.

 

[bripat9643]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?


If you want the same insulin they had 100 years ago, it's cheap.
The new insulin analogs are more expensive.

Does Walmart Sell Insulin for $25 a Vial Without a Prescription?

Actually, the old insulin wasn't cheap and it's not even available anymore.

 

[BluesLegend]

I've been in Calagary where they've complained about a lack of doctors....and the impact that has on people....including some dying.

Cut the bullshit.

There was a Canadian man who gave an interview recently. It took him forever to get an appointment with the long wait times. By the time he was able to see a doctor his cancer was so far along there was nothing they could do for him and now he's going to die. THAT'S government run healthcare.

Holy shit people government can't even run a department of motor vehicles competently and you want them in charge of our healthcare??? I get that you deadbeat mooching losers want the rest of us to pay for your healthcare but we are not going to accept Soviet quality healthcare because you are too lazy to work a job.

 

[MAGAman]

Democrat presidential candidate Kamala Harris on if drug companies do not comply with her mandatory set drug prices: “I will snatch their patent so that we will take over”

Audience asks: “can we do that?”

“Yes, we can do that! Yes, we can do that! ... I have the will to do it”

Twitter

Nothing restores our sacred norms quite like the government seizing private property.

Patents are not private property. Patents would not exist if not for the government granting and issuing them. A patent is the government giving you protection against theft of your marketable ideas. American taxpayers pay for the patent office to issue and enforce your patents.

American patent holders have the strongest legal protections in the world, which is why drug companies and others file their patents in the USA and not their home countries. These patent rights will be protected and upheld by American courts and the American judicial system, which is also paid for by the American taxpayers.

So if American taxpayers are paying for the system which provides you with patent protection, and the judicial system which protects those patents for you, I think that they have the right to pull your patent protections if you have a life saving drug which costs $40 a dose to produce that you are selling to taxpayer funded hospitals, police departments and other public institutions for $4,000 a dose.

$40/Dose doesn't cover the 50 previous drugs that failed, or the mult-$Million lawsuit because the last drug caused 0.05% of the people who's life was saved by the drug to die 5 years later of cancer.

 

[rightwinger]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

If you believe insulin was cheaper 100 years ago, you are incredibly naive. Prior to the age of genetic engineering, the only way to get insulin was to refine it from the pancreases of horses. It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin. Idiots like you whine about the price of drugs, but the ones that were around prior to genetic engineering are a small fraction of the price now. Many other life saving drugs didn't even exist then.

And the process has been refined over the last 100 years
To the point where insulin injections were relatively inexpensive

Then the drug giants got greedy

What’s insulin have to do with Commie Harris stealing private property?

It is an example of abusive practices of the Drug Industry

Why should they be protected?

 

[rightwinger]

I've been in Calagary where they've complained about a lack of doctors....and the impact that has on people....including some dying.

Cut the bullshit.

There was a Canadian man who gave an interview recently. It took him forever to get an appointment with the long wait times. By the time he was able to see a doctor his cancer was so far along there was nothing they could do for him and now he's going to die. THAT'S government run healthcare.

Holy shit people government can't even run a department of motor vehicles competently and you want them in charge of our healthcare??? I get that you deadbeat mooching losers want the rest of us to pay for your healthcare but we are not going to accept Soviet quality healthcare because you are too lazy to work a job.

Got a link on that or is it just another conservative healthcare scare tactic?

 

[bripat9643]

We have used our laws to protect drug companies. More than any other country.

To repay us, drug companies have escalated drug prices and held patients and insurance companies hostage

Why again does insulin, a drug available for a hundred years, suddenly cost three times as much?

If you believe insulin was cheaper 100 years ago, you are incredibly naive. Prior to the age of genetic engineering, the only way to get insulin was to refine it from the pancreases of horses. It takes a lot of horses to make one vial of insulin. Idiots like you whine about the price of drugs, but the ones that were around prior to genetic engineering are a small fraction of the price now. Many other life saving drugs didn't even exist then.

And the process has been refined over the last 100 years
To the point where insulin injections were relatively inexpensive

Then the drug giants got greedy

What’s insulin have to do with Commie Harris stealing private property?

It is an example of abusive practices of the Drug Industry

Why should they be protected?

No one says they should be protected. However, they also shouldn't be looted. That later is what Warren is proposing.