Kansas: Legalizing Discrimination

[Seawytch]

Who wants to eat a cake prepared by someone who hates you?

Raise your hands....anyone? Don't be shy.

Bueller?

The same kinds of people that wanted to sit at a lunch counter with people that hated them and have food prepared by people that hated them. The same kids of people that wanted a hotel room in a hotel full of people that hated them.

TITLE II--INJUNCTIVE RELIEF AGAINST DISCRIMINATION IN PLACES OF PUBLIC ACCOMMODATION

SEC. 201. (a) All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, and privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

(b) Each of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this title if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:

(1) any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence;

(2) any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the premises of any retail establishment; or any gasoline station;

(3) any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and

(4) any establishment (A)(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or (ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment, and (B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment.

(c) The operations of an establishment affect commerce within the meaning of this title if

(1) it is one of the establishments described in paragraph (1) of subsection (b); (2) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (2) of subsection (b), it serves or offers to serve interstate travelers or a substantial portion of the food which it serves, or gasoline or other products which it sells, has moved in commerce; (3) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (3) of subsection (b), it customarily presents films, performances, athletic teams, exhibitions, or other sources of entertainment which move in commerce; and (4) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (4) of subsection (b), it is physically located within the premises of, or there is physically located within its premises, an establishment the operations of which affect commerce within the meaning of this subsection. For purposes of this section, "commerce" means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication among the several States, or between the District of Columbia and any State, or between any foreign country or any territory or possession and any State or the District of Columbia, or between points in the same State but through any other State or the District of Columbia or a foreign country.​

 

[ABikerSailor]

Who wants to eat a cake prepared by someone who hates you?

Raise your hands....anyone? Don't be shy.

Bueller?

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

 

[Silhouette]

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

What does a person's race have to do with homosexuality?

I'm one of the most avid opponents of gay marriage and it's becuase a very dear friend who was a tortured homosexual died of AIDS because of how misunderstood the behavioral aspects of homosexuality are. It's the very fact that gays are made that way, not born that way, that my dear gay friend went on a murderous/suicidal rampage, taking down many other gays with him, why I post on and on.

I'm not for instance here saying "gee it's really cool this gay guy I knew killed a bunch of other gay guys and then died of AIDS himself!" That would be hateful. No, instead I'm here posting about the fact that my dear friend was molested by a man, went on to be conflicted internally about loving women but only being able to be sexually promiscuous with men. And because of this untreated internal conflict, directly from what was DONE to him, and NOT how he was born, many, many "gay" people went to an untimely death.

To suppress the discussion of my friend is to hate gays and subconsciously wish them dead. Not the other way around.

 

[Silhouette]

There are homosexuals in all races. So race has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Behavior does though. [see my last post]

 

[Seawytch]

There are homosexuals in all races. So race has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Behavior does though. [see my last post]

Women come in all races too...does that mean they can't be discriminated against either? Your "arguments" are falling apart, Sil. Of course, they were never really put together well in the first place.

 

[Silhouette]

There are homosexuals in all races. So race has nothing to do with homosexuality.

Behavior does though. [see my last post]

Women come in all races too...does that mean they can't be discriminated against either? Your "arguments" are falling apart, Sil. Of course, they were never really put together well in the first place.

No, women are distinguished physically by the presence of female reproductive organs. All gay people have the same organs specific to their gender. Gay people come in every race. The only thing that distinguishes them from others is their BEHAVIOR. Sorry, you're once again using a false premise...

 

[Seawytch]

There are homosexuals in all races. So race has nothing to do with homosexuality.



Behavior does though. [see my last post]

Women come in all races too...does that mean they can't be discriminated against either? Your "arguments" are falling apart, Sil. Of course, they were never really put together well in the first place.

No, women are distinguished physically by the presence of female reproductive organs. All gay people have the same organs specific to their gender. Gay people come in every race. The only thing that distinguishes them from others is their BEHAVIOR. Sorry, you're once again using a false premise...

Right...except my "false premise" keeps winning in court. Your premise keeps losing.

 

[Manchester]

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

What does a person's race have to do with homosexuality?

I'm one of the most avid opponents of gay marriage and it's becuase a very dear friend who was a tortured homosexual died of AIDS because of how misunderstood the behavioral aspects of homosexuality are. It's the very fact that gays are made that way, not born that way, that my dear gay friend went on a murderous/suicidal rampage, taking down many other gays with him, why I post on and on.

I'm not for instance here saying "gee it's really cool this gay guy I knew killed a bunch of other gay guys and then died of AIDS himself!" That would be hateful. No, instead I'm here posting about the fact that my dear friend was molested by a man, went on to be conflicted internally about loving women but only being able to be sexually promiscuous with men. And because of this untreated internal conflict, directly from what was DONE to him, and NOT how he was born, many, many "gay" people went to an untimely death.

To suppress the discussion of my friend is to hate gays and subconsciously wish them dead. Not the other way around.

I'm glad that no straight people who have had a rough time of it have gone on destructive rampages and in not doing so proven that it is the homosexuality that was the problem and not the abuse.

 

[GreenBean]

Who wants to eat a cake prepared by someone who hates you?

Raise your hands....anyone? Don't be shy.

Bueller?

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .

There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

 

[Seawytch]

Who wants to eat a cake prepared by someone who hates you?

Raise your hands....anyone? Don't be shy.

Bueller?

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .

There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

Gosh, Beanie wrong again? Such a shocker...

N.A.A.C.P. Votes to Endorse Same-Sex Marriage

And then there's this...

“Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood,” ~ Cora Scott King

 

[Manchester]

Who wants to eat a cake prepared by someone who hates you?

Raise your hands....anyone? Don't be shy.

Bueller?

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .

There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

I'm pretty sure a lot of KKK types were equally as dismissive of the civil rights movement. Bigots who the civil rights movement in no way affected them but they rallied against it just because they clearly disliked black people and so used vile emotive terms in dehumanize african americans.

 

[GreenBean]

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .

There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

I'm pretty sure a lot of KKK types were equally as dismissive of the civil rights movement. Bigots who the civil rights movement in no way affected them but they rallied against it just because they clearly disliked black people and so used vile emotive terms in dehumanize african americans.

That's correct Manchester - That is what the militant branch of the Democratic Party {The KKK} did. They are evil and sinister - Nowadays they have adopted a different strategy they promote homosexuality in an effort to suppress the masses and slow population growth.

 

[GreenBean]

Dunno.......................there were lots of blacks who wanted to be able to eat at a Woolworth's counter, even though the white people who prepared and served the food were whites who hated blacks.

There were also a lot of people who wanted to be able to drink at a water fountain after those who hated them.

Wanna talk about Rosa Parks who wanted to be able to sit at the front of the bus, even though the bus driver hated her?

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .

There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

Gosh, Beanie wrong again? Such a shocker...

N.A.A.C.P. Votes to Endorse Same-Sex Marriage

And then there's this...

“Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood,” ~ Cora Scott King

You haven't changed a tad have you ? You still rfeuse to let facts get in the way of your opinions. Is Fuzzy Logic a fetish ?

 

[Manchester]

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .

There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

I'm pretty sure a lot of KKK types were equally as dismissive of the civil rights movement. Bigots who the civil rights movement in no way affected them but they rallied against it just because they clearly disliked black people and so used vile emotive terms in dehumanize african americans.

That's correct Manchester - That is what the militant branch of the Democratic Party {The KKK} did. They are evil and sinister - Nowadays they have adopted a different strategy they promote homosexuality in an effort to suppress the masses and slow population growth.

Is that right? I'd never associated the KKK with either of the major political parties, just with backwards thinking, ignorance and general hatred.

I have to disagree with the "promotion" of homosexuality, you can no more promote it than you can promote left-handedness. People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded, so evil an "affliction" lefthandedness used to be thought of until more enlightened thinking prevailed that our very language still beares the imprint of a bigotry long dead.

 

[GreenBean]

I'm pretty sure a lot of KKK types were equally as dismissive of the civil rights movement. Bigots who the civil rights movement in no way affected them but they rallied against it just because they clearly disliked black people and so used vile emotive terms in dehumanize african americans.

That's correct Manchester - That is what the militant branch of the Democratic Party {The KKK} did. They are evil and sinister - Nowadays they have adopted a different strategy they promote homosexuality in an effort to suppress the masses and slow population growth.

Is that right? I'd never associated the KKK with either of the major political parties, just with backwards thinking, ignorance and general hatred.

I have to disagree with the "promotion" of homosexuality, you can no more promote it than you can promote left-handedness. People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded, so evil an "affliction" lefthandedness used to be thought of until more enlightened thinking prevailed that our very language still beares the imprint of a bigotry long dead.

Is that right? I'd never associated the KKK with either of the major political parties, just with backwards thinking, ignorance and general hatred.

The KKK was a Democratic Party Organization, but that is Off Topic
Democratic Parties Racist History

I have to disagree with the "promotion" of homosexuality, you can no more promote it than you can promote left-handedness.

Opinion , purely Opinion

People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded,

Yup - And GAY used to mean HAPPY - Barely Relevant

 

[Manchester]

That's correct Manchester - That is what the militant branch of the Democratic Party {The KKK} did. They are evil and sinister - Nowadays they have adopted a different strategy they promote homosexuality in an effort to suppress the masses and slow population growth.

Is that right? I'd never associated the KKK with either of the major political parties, just with backwards thinking, ignorance and general hatred.

I have to disagree with the "promotion" of homosexuality, you can no more promote it than you can promote left-handedness. People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded, so evil an "affliction" lefthandedness used to be thought of until more enlightened thinking prevailed that our very language still beares the imprint of a bigotry long dead.

The KKK was a Democratic Party Organization, but that is Off Topic
Democratic Parties Racist History

I have to disagree with the "promotion" of homosexuality, you can no more promote it than you can promote left-handedness.

Opinion , purely Opinion

People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded,

Yup - And GAY used to mean HAPPY - Barely Relevant

I'll have a read of that link, thanks.

Yup most of this is purely opinion, however it's my opinion and the opinion of the law of this great country. At the end of the day gay people aren't really hurting anyone (apart from maybe each other a bit) and all of what they do is with conscent. I don't see the problem with letting them do whatever they want within the relms of the law. In my book if you're against Gay Marriage then don't have one.

Edit: On the matter of sinister I think that point is relevant but then in my opinion (and in that of George Santayana) He who is ignorant of history is doomed to repeat it.

 

[dblack]

At the end of the day gay people aren't really hurting anyone (apart from maybe each other a bit) and all of what they do is with conscent. I don't see the problem with letting them do whatever they want within the relms of the law. In my book if you're against Gay Marriage then don't have one.

While I completely agree with this statement, I'd also contend that people who don't want to bake cakes for gay weddings aren't hurting anyone when they refuse. Freedom of association is a fundamental human right and throwing it under the bus in the name of changing social mores (even if its arguably for the better) is a bad idea in my view.

 

[GreenBean]

Is that right? I'd never associated the KKK with either of the major political parties, just with backwards thinking, ignorance and general hatred.

I have to disagree with the "promotion" of homosexuality, you can no more promote it than you can promote left-handedness. People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded, so evil an "affliction" lefthandedness used to be thought of until more enlightened thinking prevailed that our very language still beares the imprint of a bigotry long dead.

The KKK was a Democratic Party Organization, but that is Off Topic
Democratic Parties Racist History





Opinion , purely Opinion

People used to hate that too btw, in fact the word sinister you used about homosexuals is in fact Latin for left and was originally used to mean lefthanded,

Yup - And GAY used to mean HAPPY - Barely Relevant

I'll have a read of that link, thanks.

In my book if you're against Gay Marriage then don't have one.

I'm not against Gay Marriage, like anybody else - they have aright to make their own mistakes - the Government should have no hand in the private lives of its citizens. Adoption is an entirely different issue.

 

[Seawytch]

Hey BikerBoy, Will you kindly stop trying to link the Civil Rights Movement to sexual perversion. That is Gross distortion of reality and a slanderous slap in the face to all African Americans who fought a just and noble fight for equality .



There's was a noble fight - yours is not - Blacks as well as all races are equally disgusted with you pathetic diseased semi-humans .

Gosh, Beanie wrong again? Such a shocker...



N.A.A.C.P. Votes to Endorse Same-Sex Marriage



And then there's this...



“Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood,” ~ Cora Scott King

You haven't changed a tad have you ? You still rfeuse to let facts get in the way of your opinions. Is Fuzzy Logic a fetish ?

Why is it that my post actually contains facts and yours does not?

 

[GreenBean]

Gosh, Beanie wrong again? Such a shocker...



N.A.A.C.P. Votes to Endorse Same-Sex Marriage



And then there's this...



“Homophobia is like racism and anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry in that it seeks to dehumanize a large group of people, to deny their humanity, their dignity and personhood,” ~ Cora Scott King

You haven't changed a tad have you ? You still rfeuse to let facts get in the way of your opinions. Is Fuzzy Logic a fetish ?

Why is it that my post actually contains facts and yours does not?

That's a rare occurrence, I'll pick it apart - perhaps a little later I've more important issues at hand- like scratchin my arse.