Keeping Muslims Out Is Not Enough. We Need to Deport Many who Are Here Now

[protectionist]

Lucky Luceano cut a deal.

Call it what you want. He was DEPORTED.

 

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In addition to being deported, all these Muslim Brotherhood front group people can be arrested and imprisoned for sedition. 20 years for each count.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

 

[ogibillm]

It is illegal to deport any American citizen- regardless whether it is a Muslim minding his own business or a hate spewing bigot like yourself.

Already refuted that. (Post # 26)

And again, he wasn't a citizen

 

[ogibillm]

Lucky Luceano cut a deal.

Call it what you want. He was DEPORTED.

He. Was. Not. A. Citizen.

 

[ogibillm]

Can anyone give reason why Huma Abedin should not be deported ?

She's a citizen. There is also no reason to deport her. And what country would you deport someone born in Michigan to?

You added Magid later, but at first glance he sounds like a really great guy. We could yse more like him

That was a quiz. You got it right that Abedin was born in Michigan (althoiugh she was raised in Saudi Arabia by strict Islamists, and has been on eherself for 20 years)

Mohamed Magid. "really great guy" HA HA HA. You might think so if you were a Muslsm Brotherhood operative-seditionist like him.

EARTH TO OGIBILLM: Magid is the imam at the All-Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) Center in Sterling, Virginia. The Center has seven branches throughout the Northern Virginia region, making it one of the largest mosque complexes in the Washington D.C. area and in the nation. It is also considered one of the most radical in its promotion of Sharia and other Islamist principles.
Magid’s true identity is suggested by his role as president of the largest Muslim Brotherhood front in the United States: the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) ISNA was identified by the prosecution in the 2008 Holy Land Foundation trial as an unindicted co-conspirator, a designation that was upheld by four federal judges on the basis of the evidence produced by the government. It is also considered to be the nucleus organiztion of the Muslim Brotherhood in America, whose stated goal is to DESTROY America, and all of Western civilization, and make Islam supreme over all religions and organizations. 100% sedition.
Magid used his “relationship” with the FBI to get Director Robert Mueller to capitulate to demands by the ISNA and other Muslim Brotherhood fronts that the Bureau’s files be reviewed for documents and briefing materials offensive to Islamists. On February 8, 2012, Mueller announced to a group that included Magid that 700 such documents and 300 briefings had been purged.

Mohamed Magid is about as clear cut an enemy of America as anyone could ever be. I strongly suspect you are a jihadist.

That was a long post with no substance.

 

[Syriusly]

In addition to being deported, all these Muslim Brotherhood front group people can be arrested and imprisoned for sedition. 20 years for each count.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

Sure- all that would take would be some evidence of sedition- and a trial and a conviction.

Or are you going to suggest doing away with those also?

 

[ogibillm]

In addition to being deported, all these Muslim Brotherhood front group people can be arrested and imprisoned for sedition. 20 years for each count.

18 U.S. Code § 2384 - Seditious conspiracy

Sure- all that would take would be some evidence of sedition- and a trial and a conviction.

Or are you going to suggest doing away with those also?

Protectionist likely believes the Commerce Clause allows for that somehow. He has some really bizarre and just idiotic beliefs about the Constitution

 

[protectionist]

And again, he wasn't a citizen

Just because you say so ?

 

[protectionist]

That was a long post with no substance.

This is one of the really dumb techniques of the Islamist left. When they are beaten back with a great deal of substance, they claim there is no substance (and hope someone out there will be dumb enough to go for that)

It is a whole nother category of stupid to be duped by that.

SUBSTANCE >>> Hohmaed Magid is the imam at the All-Dulles Area Muslim Society (ADAMS) Center in Sterling, Virginia. The Center has seven branches throughout the Northern Virginia region, making it one of the largest mosque complexes in the Washington D.C. area and in the nation. It is also considered one of the most radical in its promotion of Sharia and other Islamist principles.
Magid’s true identity is suggested by his role as president of the largest Muslim Brotherhood front in the United States: the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) ISNA was identified by the prosecution in the 2008 Holy Land Foundation trial as an unindicted co-conspirator, a designation that was upheld by four federal judges on the basis of the evidence produced by the government. It is also considered to be the nucleus organiztion of the Muslim Brotherhood in America, whose stated goal is to DESTROY America, and all of Western civilization, and make Islam supreme over all religions and organizations. 100% sedition.
Magid used his “relationship” with the FBI to get Director Robert Mueller to capitulate to demands by the ISNA and other Muslim Brotherhood fronts that the Bureau’s files be reviewed for documents and briefing materials offensive to Islamists. On February 8, 2012, Mueller announced to a group that included Magid that 700 such documents and 300 briefings had been purged.

Here's some MORE SUBSTANCE >>>> Rashad Hussain - long been involved with various Muslim Brotherhood front organizations including Abdurahman Alamoudi’s American Muslim Council and The International Institute of Islamic Thought (or IIIT) to which jihadists like Sami al-Arian (who pled guilty in 2006 to organizing secret financial contributions to the Palestine Islamic Jihad, a terrorist group) and Jamal Barzinji, a founding father of the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood, also have ties. Hussain was also involved in the original Brotherhood front in America, the Muslim Students Association.
An example of Hussain’s sympathies can be found in his declaration at a Muslim Students Association conference in Chicago in September 2004 that Sami al-Arian had been subjected to a “politically motivated prosecution.”
In January 2009, Hussain was named Deputy Associate White House Counsel. Among his government responsibilities in that capacity were national security and new media issues. More specifically he has been charged with “helping inform the administration’s Muslim outreach efforts,” and consulting on the drafting of President Obama’s first address to the “Muslim World” delivered in June 2009 at Cairo University in Egypt. On February 20, 2010, the President announced that Hussain would serve as his “special envoy” to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation.
Even more than his White House post, this job with the OIC has given Hussain a platform for facilitating official outreach to Islamists, as opposed to Islamic moderates. It has enabled him to reinterpret their intentions to American policy makers and to promote their agendas under the guise of “repairing relations with the Muslim world."

Here's MORE SUBSTANCE >>>> Dalia Mogahed - She was appointed in April 2009 to the White House Advisory Council on Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. also works with the Gallup polling organization’s Center for Muslim Studies where she serves as both the Executive Director and a Senior Analyst.
In September 2008, Mogahed defended two of the most important Muslim Brotherhood fronts in the United States (as named in the Ikhwan’s strategic plan seized by the FBI in 2004) – the Islamic Society of North America and theCouncil on American Islamic Relations. She contended that the determination made by the FBI and others that such groups are linked to Islamic radicals was “misinformation” and part of a groundless “witch-hunt” aimed at silencing them.
She also gave evidence of her sympathy with Brotherhood rhetoric and objectives by appearing in May 2009 before the 34th annual conference of the Islamic Council of North America (ICNA), a group that has long promoted jihad and Sharia and was listed in the materials captured by the FBI as part of the Brotherhood’s organization. The event was cosponsored by the Muslim American Society (MAS), which was founded to serve as the Muslim Brotherhood’s formal American franchise.
She has also been involved with the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), the Muslim Brotherhood’s effort to build a mirror image counterweight to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). Anxious to prove that American and Islamic values are similar, MPAC aims to create a moderate image, yet its speakers at pro-Palestinian rallies have routinely called for the destruction of the Jews and of Israel.

Here's MORE SUBSTANCE >>> Huma Abedin - Wife of disgraced ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner, and State Dept. Deputy Chief of Staff under Hillary Clinton, she “has three family members–her late father, her mother and her brother–connected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives and/or organizations. In addition, before becoming Hillary Clinton’s deputy, she was herself directly associated with a Brotherhood organization, the Institute for Muslim Minority Affairs, an organization founded and funded by Abdullah Omar Naseef, a major Muslim Brotherhood figure also involved in the financing of al Qaeda.
Since Abedin has held this position, an awful lot of pro-Muslim Brotherhood things have been happening at the State Dept. A Fulbright scholarship was awarded to Siham al-Qaradawi, the daughter of Sheikh Qaradawi, an Islamist scholar, and spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, who's banned from the USA, UK, and France. While the sheikh’s daughter is said to be an exceptional chemist, the world is full of exceptional chemists. How is it that Qaradawi’s daughter gets the State Department prize?
And since Secretary Clinton’s tenure began, with Huma Abedin serving as a top adviser, the United States has aligned itself with the Muslim Brotherhood in myriad ways. To name just a few (the list is by no means exhaustive):

Our government >>>>

1- reversed the policy against formal contacts with the Brotherhood;

2- funded Hamas;

3- continued funding Egypt even after the Brotherhood won the elections;

4- dropped an investigation of Brotherhood organizations in the U.S. that were previously identified as co-conspirators in the case of the Holy Land Foundation financing Hamas;

5- hosted Brotherhood delegations in the United States;

6- issued a visa to a member of the Islamic Group (a designated terrorist organization) and hosted him in Washington because he is part of the Brotherhood’s parliamentary coalition in Egypt;

7- announced that Israel should go back to its indefensible 1967 borders;

8- excluded Israel, the world’s leading target of terrorism, from a counterterrorism forum in which the State Department sought to “partner” with Islamist governments that do not regard attacks on Israel as terrorism;

9- and pressured Egypt’s pro-American military government to surrender power to the anti-American Muslim Brotherhood parliament and president just elected by Egypt’s predominantly anti-American population.

10 - the Benghazi attacks.

Makes us wonder >>> Hypothetically, if Huma Abedin did have a bias in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, and if she were actually acting on that bias to try to tilt American policy in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, what exactly would the State Department be doing differently?

 

[protectionist]

Sure- all that would take would be some evidence of sedition- and a trial and a conviction.

Or are you going to suggest doing away with those also?

US vs Holy Land Foundation, 2007-2008. Been watching liberal OMISSION media, or pretending you didn't know ?

 

[protectionist]

Protectionist likely believes the Commerce Clause allows for that somehow. He has some really bizarre and just idiotic beliefs about the Constitution

The HLF trial expose" of the EM. Or are you going to pretend to be ignorant of that too ? Then again, maybe you are. My gut is telling me though, they you're an Islamist, and you know what's going on -just playing dumb. Right, Mohammed ?

 

[protectionist]

More Obama bad guys >>

Eboo Patel, Obama Administration Advisory Council on Faith-Based Neighborhood Partnerships, spoke at a Muslim Students Association and ISNA convention, appearing on a panel[83] alongside Tariq Ramadan, grandson of the Muslim Brotherhood's founder, and Siraj Wahhaj, who was named as a possible co-conspirator in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing and has defended the convicted WTC bombers. Wahhaj allegedly advocates the Islamic takeover of America.

Louay Safi is a Syrian-American Muslim who has held official positions with the Brotherhood-affiliated ISNA and the International Institute for Islamic Thought (IIIT). As ISNA's Executive Director of Leadership Development,[71] Safi served for a number of years in the mid-2000s as an endorsing agent for the Pentagon's Muslim military chaplain program.[72] He also served as IIIT's executive director (1995-97), and director of research (1999-2003);[73] IIIT is another listed Muslim Brotherhood organization.[74] Safi was named an unindicted co-conspirator in the 2003 trial of Sami al-Arian, who was convicted as a fundraiser for the terrorist group, Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ).[75]

Despite this documented resume, Safi was hired by the Pentagon under a Naval Postgraduate School contract to teach Islam to U.S. troops about to depart on deployments to Afghanistan.[76] Safi was at Ft. Bliss, TX on the day in November 2007 when Army Major Nidal Hassan gunned down thirteen service members and civilian employees at Ft. Hood, TX. The Army Criminal Investigations Division subsequently opened an investigation into the Army's use of Safi to provide seminars on Islam -- and those seminars were ended.[77] Grieving family members were outraged in early December 2011 when Safi was permitted access to Ft. Hood in an attempt to present a check to them on behalf of ISNA; called "blood money" by at least one military source, the check was refused.[78]

Later, Safi's 2011 book, "Peace and the Limits of War" (published by IIIT), openly justified violence against apostates from Islam as well as "preemptive strikes" against troops preparing to attack Muslims.[79] Apparently in search of new employment for his skills, in August 2011, Safi reappeared as a founding member and director of the political office of the Syrian National Council (SNC), a Syrian rebel group dominated by the Muslim Brotherhood.[80] His photo and profile appear on the SNC website[81]

 

[Syriusly]

Sure- all that would take would be some evidence of sedition- and a trial and a conviction.

Or are you going to suggest doing away with those also?

US vs Holy Land Foundation, 2007-2008. Been watching liberal OMISSION media, or pretending you didn't know ?

So you do know that sedition would require a trial and conviction.

Anyone who is convicted of sedition- I am all in favor of being thrown in prison. Like the persons convicted in the Holy Land Foundation- happy to see them go to jail.

Now you just have to actually find evidence, and convict every other Muslim American you want to through in prison.

 

[protectionist]

It's not just the Obama administration. One of the most successful Brotherhood placement and influence operations discovered to date involved Abdurahman Alamoudi, who penetrated the upper echelons of both Democratic and Republican presidential administrations. A naturalized American citizen who emigrated from Eritrea in 1979, Alamoudi parlayed his leadership roles with dozens of Muslim organizations all the way to the White House.[57] Despite being a member of the Muslim Brotherhood who openly had declared his support for HAMAS, he was accepted as a "moderate Muslim" and became an advisor to President Bill Clinton and then-First Lady Hillary Clinton. He was permitted to establish the Muslim Chaplain Program for the Department of Defense and then served as its nominating and certifying authority from 1993-98.[58] Deciding to hedge his bets by 1998, Alamoudi provided at least $20,000 in start-up funds to Republican activist Grover Norquist "to establish what would become a Muslim Brotherhood front organization" called the Islamic Free Market Institute, which aimed to penetrate Republican Party circles and the campaign of future President George W. Bush.[59] Along the way, Alamoudi inserted his long-time deputy, Khaled Saffuri, and eventually another prominent Ikhwan operative, Sami al-Arian, into the Bush presidential campaign. Alamoudi's moves paid off: after Bush's victory, another Alamoudi protégé with vast Brotherhood connections, Suhail Khan, was appointed to the White House Office of Public Liaison, from which key position he was able to manage the access of the U.S. Muslim community to the White House. This position gave the U.S. Muslim Brotherhood unprecedented opportunities to influence operations at the top levels of U.S. policymaking.[60] Grover Norquist himself escaped scrutiny for years thereafter as he continued operating within the conservative movement.[61]

Despite Alamoudi's eventual fall from grace, arrest and imprisonment following conviction on terrorism-related charges as a senior al-Qa'eda financier, the damage was done. Even the eventual unmasking of Sami al-Arian as a senior operative of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) did not seem to jolt the counterintelligence instincts of the U.S. intelligence community. The U.S. executive branch, from the president to the NSC and key Cabinet Departments, had been effectively neutered at the very start of the Global War on Terror. This is how President Bush could stand on 17 September 2001 inside the Islamic Center of Washington, D.C., flanked by Nihad Awad, Executive Director of CAIR (the U.S. branch of HAMAS), and in all sincerity, declare that "Islam is peace."[62]

The George W. Bush administration was targeted with a multifaceted, sophisticated information operation designed to deceive national security officials about the true nature of the Islamic jihadist enemy that attacked the homeland on 9/11. Surrounded by Muslim Brotherhood voices which told him true Islam had been "hijacked" by a "tiny minority of extremists," President Bush responded by flinging U.S. military might against those who had physically carried out those attacks. Far more importantly, however, is that he was successfully deterred from investigating the belief system that inspired those hijackers by a blanket of Muslim Brotherhood taqiyya that successfully smothered inquiry about the very Islamic doctrine that al-Qa'eda and the hijackers themselves declared to be their motivation. Although few realize it to this day, the crippling of the Bush administration's GWOT response marked a crucial turning point in the U.S. ability to defend itself against Islamic jihad.

 

[protectionist]

Abdurahman Alamoudi - A former frequent attendee at White House parties. He went from the White House to the Big House (23 years on jihad terrorist charges)

We need more of this type of CLEAN UP.

 

[protectionist]

So you do know that sedition would require a trial and conviction.

Anyone who is convicted of sedition- I am all in favor of being thrown in prison. Like the persons convicted in the Holy Land Foundation- happy to see them go to jail.

Now you just have to actually find evidence, and convict every other Muslim American you want to through in prison.

Many Muslim Brotherhood operatives have been identified by the US Justice Dept as just that (which is in itself an indictment of sedition) They also made a list of dozens of Muslim Brotherhood front organizations.. You do know the EM, right ? Or are you just popping in here like some mindless stray cat ?

 

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