Kenosha: Trump declines to condemn violence from his supporters

[Godboy]

"Declined to condemn"...was he asked to condemn the violence? I think the man is a narcissist con-man, but from the video I've seen, Rittenhouse WAS running from people and he WAS attacked before he shot them. There may be more information that would change things, but from what I've seen so far, I'd only "condemn violence from his supporters" in the sense that the kid shouldn't have been there, and armed, at all.

That video is taken AFTER he shot and killed a person.

He shot three people that night. Two of them died. One of them is in the hospital.

The only reason he was being chased is he shot and killed someone. The protesters were trying to subdue him because the police didn't do anything about it and the protesters didn't want more people killed or harmed.

In fact after he had shot three people, killing two of them, the police let him walk right by them, get in his car, drive back to Illinois and go home.

Why did he shoot and kill the first guy? Just for fun? That doesnt seem likely. You have no idea what happened, yet you want him to spend the rest of his life in prison.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

"Declined to condemn"...was he asked to condemn the violence? I think the man is a narcissist con-man, but from the video I've seen, Rittenhouse WAS running from people and he WAS attacked before he shot them. There may be more information that would change things, but from what I've seen so far, I'd only "condemn violence from his supporters" in the sense that the kid shouldn't have been there, and armed, at all.

That video is taken AFTER he shot and killed a person.

He shot three people that night. Two of them died. One of them is in the hospital.

The only reason he was being chased is he shot and killed someone. The protesters were trying to subdue him because the police didn't do anything about it and the protesters didn't want more people killed or harmed.

In fact after he had shot three people, killing two of them, the police let him walk right by them, get in his car, drive back to Illinois and go home.

Why did he shoot and kill the first guy? Just for fun? That doesnt seem likely. You have no idea what happened, yet you want him to spend the rest of his life in prison.

And neither do you. There is a lot of justifying going on by both sides. It's time to let the authorities iron this one out. There really isn't a question if laws were broken or not. They were. We just don't know which ones were broken and which ones are fabricated.

 

[DrLove]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Let's be clear. You are posting a pile of BULLSHIT. Yes, Trump defends Kyle Rittenhouse. So do I. That's because he was not doing anything wrong or illegal, and is now being politically railroaded by a staunchly Democrat city, accusing him of first degree murder, which is preposterous.

The only individuals that Kyle Rittenhouse shot, were three individuals that were attacking him, and putting him at risk of serious bodily harm or death. He shot in self-defense which is perfectly legal and correct.

What is not perfectly legal and correct, is the tolerance of massive illegal mob violence by airhead idiots who are rioting over absolutely NOTHING. The people who are accusing Rittenhouse of murder, should themselves be in jail at this moment, for they are just as guilty as the mindless baboons running wild in the streets.

Kenosha mayor John Antaramian also fueled the rioting by calling the shooting of Jason Blake "unacceptable". FALSE! The shooting was ACCEPTABLE, and 100% JUSTIFIABLE, and a mirror image of the shooting of Terrence Crutcher in 2016, in which the police officer shooter, Betty Shelby, was cleared of all charges.

The kid crossed state lines specifically to committ an offense under Wisconsin law, as anyone under 18 is not allow to carry a a weapon without supervision and the illinois militia members do not have standing. It was against Wisconsin law for him to be there on the streets armed in the first place and he traveled interstate to commit the offense.

As long as I'm here -- I just hope everyone knows that the mobster that pulled the handgun on him moments before the kid shot his arm half off -- IS a convicted felon and in NO WAY should have that rioter had a firearm on his person.. When you get chased out of the gas station you're defending, get whacked with a skateboard in the head AND the guy pulls a handgun on you -- this is self defense and the murder charges will never stick.. The best damn defense lawyer in America is gonna fix this just like he fixed the slander/libel against the Covington kids..

Lil Nicky Sandmann got a few hundred bucks a from WaPo to shut him up.
So you rag on a "mobster" who happened to be carrying a handgun, but deem a 17 year old who brings an AK-47 to be a patriot of some sort?
I have a standing bet - This idiot will be convicted of murder one. Month off the board?

 

[Godboy]

"Declined to condemn"...was he asked to condemn the violence? I think the man is a narcissist con-man, but from the video I've seen, Rittenhouse WAS running from people and he WAS attacked before he shot them. There may be more information that would change things, but from what I've seen so far, I'd only "condemn violence from his supporters" in the sense that the kid shouldn't have been there, and armed, at all.

That video is taken AFTER he shot and killed a person.

He shot three people that night. Two of them died. One of them is in the hospital.

The only reason he was being chased is he shot and killed someone. The protesters were trying to subdue him because the police didn't do anything about it and the protesters didn't want more people killed or harmed.

In fact after he had shot three people, killing two of them, the police let him walk right by them, get in his car, drive back to Illinois and go home.

Why did he shoot and kill the first guy? Just for fun? That doesnt seem likely. You have no idea what happened, yet you want him to spend the rest of his life in prison.

And neither do you. There is a lot of justifying going on by both sides. It's time to let the authorities iron this one out. There really isn't a question if laws were broken or not. They were. We just don't know which ones were broken and which ones are fabricated.

The armed assaults on Kyle were clearly illegal.

 

[Asclepias]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why would he condemn someone defending themselves from a group of rioters and convicted criminals?

Because vigilantism is against the law you dumbfuck.

 

[Godboy]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why would he condemn someone defending themselves from a group of rioters and convicted criminals?

Because vigilantism is against the law you dumbfuck.

Self defense IS legal.

 

[Ken Mac]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

 

[Godboy]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

The kid with the gun didnt start the violence, democrats did... AGAIN. Your criticism is woefully misplaced.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

The kid with the gun didnt start the violence, democrats did... AGAIN. Your criticism is woefully misplaced.

Whatever, cupcake.

 

[Ken Mac]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

No - you said "deserves to be beaten or worse" That's fucking disgusting. No one deserves that. Not even someone who rapes someone. They don't get beaten or worse by the police. We have laws against that type of shit. You're a douchebag. Typical democRAT supporting violence while denouncing violence of anyone not associated with his political views. Fuckhead.

Partisan hack raised to the 22nd power.

 

[Ken Mac]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

The kid with the gun didnt start the violence, democrats did... AGAIN. Your criticism is woefully misplaced.

Whatever, cupcake.

Yup - You're an asshole who ran out of shit to throw at the wall to defend your post and ideals. Truly disgusting.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

The kid with the gun didnt start the violence, democrats did... AGAIN. Your criticism is woefully misplaced.

Whatever, cupcake.

Yup - You're an asshole who ran out of shit to throw at the wall to defend your post and ideals. Truly disgusting.

You remind me of Shatners part in Airplane II.

 

[Ken Mac]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why is this in the CDZ? It sounds like you do not believe there is anything debatable at all here. According to your speech, the 17 year old is guilty of murder and you believe Trump is responsible. And of course the hardened criminals chasing him down the street attacking are innocent angels. Yep sounds like you have it all figured out.

No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this.

Rump is guilty for both not speaking out against the Rump Private Army traveling to the Protests to backup law enforcement and actually supporting it. I will say this, any Rump Supporter that does go in with that in mind is a complete idiot and deserves to be beaten or worse. I don't support the violence of the Rioters either but that is for the locals to deal with. Sending in the Rump Brown Shirts or his secret Private Army, nothing good will ever come from it and it will just make it more difficult for the locals to get a handle on thingss.

"No, the 17 year old is guilty of severe poor judgement. He got too close and he was visibly armed with an AR. Nothing good was going to come out of this. "
So it's ok to chase him and threaten his life? Fuck off. You're fucking disgusting. Deserves to be beaten or worse? Again - fuck off. You're an asshole. Truly disgusting.

Additionally "Locals" aren't trying to get a handle on anything in most of these cities.

You don't know exactly all the details and neither do I. But I stand by my statement. A 17 year old with AR getting too close to a bad situation is a recipe for disaster. I am not point fingers at anyone. Just stating fact.

The kid with the gun didnt start the violence, democrats did... AGAIN. Your criticism is woefully misplaced.

Whatever, cupcake.

Yup - You're an asshole who ran out of shit to throw at the wall to defend your post and ideals. Truly disgusting.

You remind me of Shatners part in Airplane II.

Still can't find some words to backup your disgusting posts?

That's all you have?

Really?....

Wow.

 

[Montrovant]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

What is illegal about defending yourself against armed attackers?

Let's shoot down some liberal arguments:

1. "He was too young to carry a gun."

Answer: Wrong, in Wisconsin 16 and 17yo's can have rifles and shotguns, as they are used to hunt.

2. He was illegally open carrying.

Answer: Wrong. Wisconsin is an open carry state.

3. He broke the law using deadly force.

Answer: Wrong. When attacked by someone who is chasing you that is fear for your life. Deadly force is reasonable.

4. He illegally transported the gun across state lines.

Answer: Wrong. The gun belonged to his friend, a Wisconsin resident. It never crossed state lines.

What to know about Wisconsin's open-carry laws, self defense and more in Kenosha protest shootings

Answers to questions like does Wisconsin have a stand-your-ground law and other relevant information on the fatal Kenosha shootings.

www.jsonline.com

While 16 and 17 year olds can have guns for hunting, there are requirements involved. Here's the relevant statutes from my searching:

Wisconsin Legislature: 948.60

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

Unless Rittenhouse was certified for hunting, and possibly unless he had the gun specifically for the purposes of hunting (I'm not certain about that), he had it illegally, based on those statutes. Even with that certification, if the rifle fits the criteria of a short barreled rifle, it would still be illegal.

It's a misdemeanor crime. Whoever gave or lent the gun to him, on the other hand, is apparently guilty of a felony.

It is a felony in Wisconsin for a minor to open carry a weapon.

The fact that he had it and was open carrying it was a crime to begin with.

If he didn't bring it with, the adult who gave him that weapon is also guilty of a felony.

Based on the statutes I linked to earlier, it’s a misdemeanor for a minor to have a gun, not a felony, and there are some exceptions. It is a felony to loan or give a minor such a weapon.

 

[Montrovant]

There

"Declined to condemn"...was he asked to condemn the violence? I think the man is a narcissist con-man, but from the video I've seen, Rittenhouse WAS running from people and he WAS attacked before he shot them. There may be more information that would change things, but from what I've seen so far, I'd only "condemn violence from his supporters" in the sense that the kid shouldn't have been there, and armed, at all.

That video is taken AFTER he shot and killed a person.

He shot three people that night. Two of them died. One of them is in the hospital.

The only reason he was being chased is he shot and killed someone. The protesters were trying to subdue him because the police didn't do anything about it and the protesters didn't want more people killed or harmed.

In fact after he had shot three people, killing two of them, the police let him walk right by them, get in his car, drive back to Illinois and go home.

There is video of the first shooting, too. Rittenhouse was being chased in that video, and the man threw something at him, before he shot.
Of course we don’t have all the details, but in neither case did Rittenhouse appear to be the aggressor, and both videos seem to show Rittenhouse attacked before firing.

 

[theHawk]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Why would he condemn someone defending themselves from a group of rioters and convicted criminals?

Because vigilantism is against the law you dumbfuck.

“Vigilantism”? Get a clue.

 

[White 6]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Let's be clear. You are posting a pile of BULLSHIT. Yes, Trump defends Kyle Rittenhouse. So do I. That's because he was not doing anything wrong or illegal, and is now being politically railroaded by a staunchly Democrat city, accusing him of first degree murder, which is preposterous.

The only individuals that Kyle Rittenhouse shot, were three individuals that were attacking him, and putting him at risk of serious bodily harm or death. He shot in self-defense which is perfectly legal and correct.

What is not perfectly legal and correct, is the tolerance of massive illegal mob violence by airhead idiots who are rioting over absolutely NOTHING. The people who are accusing Rittenhouse of murder, should themselves be in jail at this moment, for they are just as guilty as the mindless baboons running wild in the streets.

Kenosha mayor John Antaramian also fueled the rioting by calling the shooting of Jason Blake "unacceptable". FALSE! The shooting was ACCEPTABLE, and 100% JUSTIFIABLE, and a mirror image of the shooting of Terrence Crutcher in 2016, in which the police officer shooter, Betty Shelby, was cleared of all charges.

The kid crossed state lines specifically to committ an offense under Wisconsin law, as anyone under 18 is not allow to carry a a weapon without supervision and the illinois militia members do not have standing. It was against Wisconsin law for him to be there on the streets armed in the first place and he traveled interstate to commit the offense.

As long as I'm here -- I just hope everyone knows that the mobster that pulled the handgun on him moments before the kid shot his arm half off -- IS a convicted felon and in NO WAY should have that rioter had a firearm on his person.. When you get chased out of the gas station you're defending, get whacked with a skateboard in the head AND the guy pulls a handgun on you -- this is self defense and the murder charges will never stick.. The best damn defense lawyer in America is gonna fix this just like he fixed the slander/libel against the Covington kids..

Lil Nicky Sandmann got a few hundred bucks a from WaPo to shut him up.
So you rag on a "mobster" who happened to be carrying a handgun, but deem a 17 year old who brings an AK-47 to be a patriot of some sort?
I have a standing bet - This idiot will be convicted of murder one. Month off the board?

Probably not. Suspect if they actually go for murder 1, it will increase the chances he will go totally free. Some people are mature enough to think and act on their own at an early age. This one will be nothing more than a kid (and probably a good natured one at that) when he is 18 or possibly 21. No way murder 1 will fly. If we were sitting in a bar, I would take that bet.

 

[DrLove]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Let's be clear. You are posting a pile of BULLSHIT. Yes, Trump defends Kyle Rittenhouse. So do I. That's because he was not doing anything wrong or illegal, and is now being politically railroaded by a staunchly Democrat city, accusing him of first degree murder, which is preposterous.

The only individuals that Kyle Rittenhouse shot, were three individuals that were attacking him, and putting him at risk of serious bodily harm or death. He shot in self-defense which is perfectly legal and correct.

What is not perfectly legal and correct, is the tolerance of massive illegal mob violence by airhead idiots who are rioting over absolutely NOTHING. The people who are accusing Rittenhouse of murder, should themselves be in jail at this moment, for they are just as guilty as the mindless baboons running wild in the streets.

Kenosha mayor John Antaramian also fueled the rioting by calling the shooting of Jason Blake "unacceptable". FALSE! The shooting was ACCEPTABLE, and 100% JUSTIFIABLE, and a mirror image of the shooting of Terrence Crutcher in 2016, in which the police officer shooter, Betty Shelby, was cleared of all charges.

The kid crossed state lines specifically to committ an offense under Wisconsin law, as anyone under 18 is not allow to carry a a weapon without supervision and the illinois militia members do not have standing. It was against Wisconsin law for him to be there on the streets armed in the first place and he traveled interstate to commit the offense.

As long as I'm here -- I just hope everyone knows that the mobster that pulled the handgun on him moments before the kid shot his arm half off -- IS a convicted felon and in NO WAY should have that rioter had a firearm on his person.. When you get chased out of the gas station you're defending, get whacked with a skateboard in the head AND the guy pulls a handgun on you -- this is self defense and the murder charges will never stick.. The best damn defense lawyer in America is gonna fix this just like he fixed the slander/libel against the Covington kids..

Lil Nicky Sandmann got a few hundred bucks a from WaPo to shut him up.
So you rag on a "mobster" who happened to be carrying a handgun, but deem a 17 year old who brings an AK-47 to be a patriot of some sort?
I have a standing bet - This idiot will be convicted of murder one. Month off the board?

Probably not. Suspect if they actually go for murder 1, it will increase the chances he will go totally free. Some people are mature enough to think and act on their own at an early age. This one will be nothing more than a kid (and probably a good natured one at that) when he is 18 or possibly 21. No way murder 1 will fly. If we were sitting in a bar, I would take that bet.

So you guess murder 2 or manslaughter? Okay, we have a bet. Rest assured after Trayvon, they will leave the jury a myriad of options!

 

[flacaltenn]

Trump is allowing a 17-year-old vigilante gunman to fight illegal battles for him.

Trump defends accused Kenosha gunman, declines to condemn violence from his supporters

Let us be clear: The President is acting like a retarded juvenile proto-fascist and encouraging law breaking vigilante violence. Civilians shooting other civilians, even children crossing state lines with automatic weapons to play cops, provoke and kill unarmed demonstrators, is what this president now stands for. That child is not nearly so responsible as the president himself. Trump is crossing a line here. If re-elected Trump will quite evidently lead his followers to unleashing serious bloodshed, which will create more violence in response. The ultimate result will quite possibly be a declaration of marshal law and the destruction of representative democracy.

Let's be clear. You are posting a pile of BULLSHIT. Yes, Trump defends Kyle Rittenhouse. So do I. That's because he was not doing anything wrong or illegal, and is now being politically railroaded by a staunchly Democrat city, accusing him of first degree murder, which is preposterous.

The only individuals that Kyle Rittenhouse shot, were three individuals that were attacking him, and putting him at risk of serious bodily harm or death. He shot in self-defense which is perfectly legal and correct.

What is not perfectly legal and correct, is the tolerance of massive illegal mob violence by airhead idiots who are rioting over absolutely NOTHING. The people who are accusing Rittenhouse of murder, should themselves be in jail at this moment, for they are just as guilty as the mindless baboons running wild in the streets.

Kenosha mayor John Antaramian also fueled the rioting by calling the shooting of Jason Blake "unacceptable". FALSE! The shooting was ACCEPTABLE, and 100% JUSTIFIABLE, and a mirror image of the shooting of Terrence Crutcher in 2016, in which the police officer shooter, Betty Shelby, was cleared of all charges.

The kid crossed state lines specifically to committ an offense under Wisconsin law, as anyone under 18 is not allow to carry a a weapon without supervision and the illinois militia members do not have standing. It was against Wisconsin law for him to be there on the streets armed in the first place and he traveled interstate to commit the offense.

As long as I'm here -- I just hope everyone knows that the mobster that pulled the handgun on him moments before the kid shot his arm half off -- IS a convicted felon and in NO WAY should have that rioter had a firearm on his person.. When you get chased out of the gas station you're defending, get whacked with a skateboard in the head AND the guy pulls a handgun on you -- this is self defense and the murder charges will never stick.. The best damn defense lawyer in America is gonna fix this just like he fixed the slander/libel against the Covington kids..

Lil Nicky Sandmann got a few hundred bucks a from WaPo to shut him up.
So you rag on a "mobster" who happened to be carrying a handgun, but deem a 17 year old who brings an AK-47 to be a patriot of some sort?
I have a standing bet - This idiot will be convicted of murder one. Month off the board?

THe handgun was a definite violation and the felon (last time I heard) has not been charged.. The situation surrounding the AK is more nebulous.. I was transporting 20 rifles and 3000 rounds of ammunition in a station wagon every weekend when I was 17.. My dad ran a Jr Rifle League for Civitans.. Got stopped once on the way to a match.. The cop just laugh hysterically... Told me to have a nice day...

I just want to folks to realize what kind of TROUBLE shows up "at a riot".. And to be even-handed about the details...

As for the bet -- I'm probably gonna be rehabbing in the USMB Moderator Asylum.. It's a health benefit for sacrificing my psyche here everyday.. And I think the white coats are gonna collect me and take me away about election time.. So that screws up the terms of the bet...