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No evidence cellular of Trump colluding with Russia.
No evidence of Obama wiretapping Trump.
Considerable evidence of Russia attempting get to influence our elections.
All from the same sources.
Which is nothing new and nothing we don't do to them.
Not entirely true. It is taken to a new level. Should it be ignored?
I doubt that many of those brushing it under the rug would do so if their candidate had lost and the hacking had released negative info on THEIR candidate.
What's disturbing is not who won or lost but a deliberate attack on our democratic system and an erosion of trust in it.
So fine, say everyone does it. That makes it ok?
The lie has run its course.
The principal problem for Democrats is that so many media figures and online charlatans are personally benefiting from feeding the base increasingly unhinged, fact-free conspiracies — just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected — that there are now millions of partisan soldiers absolutely convinced of a Trump/Russia conspiracy for which, at least as of now, there is no evidence. And they are all waiting for the day, which they regard as inevitable and imminent, when this theory will be proven and Trump will be removed.
Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion.
There is no evidence. This was a scam the Democrats desperately needed to shift away from their BS.
I disagree. With Russia's involvement in trying to influence our election, and the fact there are various ties between Russia and Trump officials, it SHOULD be examined. If nothing wrong is found, move on. Just like what SHOULD have been done with Clinton's emails, and what should be done with claims of Obama wiretapping.
But will we move on? Doubt it. There will be fresh hatching of conspiracy theories.
totally amazing how easily our so called "American patriots" can look the other way when Russia is involved after Trump hit the scene.
F em ALL.
All while crying and demanding evidence of a literal telephone wire tap.
"wiretapping". In quotation marks. By definition it's not just tapping a phone line.
"The Russians made voters vote for Trump" is the most sorry ass and lame excuse for losing an election EVAH."
totally amazing how easily our so called "American patriots" can look the other way when Russia is involved after Trump hit the scene.
F em ALL.
What is totally amazing is that you have a bunch of Democratic pricks willing to ride that lie out and state they are willing to go war over it. You won't be going, will ya? Have no problem sending Americans to cover for a lie. You're awesome.
If there is nothing there, there is nothing thereThe lie has run its course.
The principal problem for Democrats is that so many media figures and online charlatans are personally benefiting from feeding the base increasingly unhinged, fact-free conspiracies — just as right-wing media polemicists did after both Bill Clinton and Obama were elected — that there are now millions of partisan soldiers absolutely convinced of a Trump/Russia conspiracy for which, at least as of now, there is no evidence. And they are all waiting for the day, which they regard as inevitable and imminent, when this theory will be proven and Trump will be removed.
Key Democratic Officials Now Warning Base Not to Expect Evidence of Trump/Russia Collusion.
There is no evidence. This was a scam the Democrats desperately needed to shift away from their BS.
I disagree. With Russia's involvement in trying to influence our election, and the fact there are various ties between Russia and Trump officials, it SHOULD be examined. If nothing wrong is found, move on. Just like what SHOULD have been done with Clinton's emails, and what should be done with claims of Obama wiretapping.
But will we move on? Doubt it. There will be fresh hatching of conspiracy theories.
Russia didn't influence our elections. The Democrats acted like jackasses. Clinton has a history. The Democrats stopped paying attention to the states. That's what happened.
"The Russians made voters vote for Trump" is the most sorry ass and lame excuse for losing an election EVAH."
Yeah it kinda is. Can you imagine if somebody had actually said that?
But that's OK ---- we can just play "let's pretend".
Grow up already.
Who is willing to go to war over it?totally amazing how easily our so called "American patriots" can look the other way when Russia is involved after Trump hit the scene.
F em ALL.
What is totally amazing is that you have a bunch of Democratic pricks willing to ride that lie out and state they are willing to go war over it. You won't be going, will ya? Have no problem sending Americans to cover for a lie. You're awesome.
"The Russians made voters vote for Trump" is the most sorry ass and lame excuse for losing an election EVAH."
Yeah it kinda is. Can you imagine if somebody had actually said that?
But that's OK ---- we can just play "let's pretend".
Grow up already.
I'm looking at this headline right now. Calling Trump voters Putins pawns.
Nice job, Donald Trump voters! You became Vladimir Putin’s pawns
There is no evidence. This was a scam the Democrats desperately needed to shift away from their BS.
I disagree. With Russia's involvement in trying to influence our election, and the fact there are various ties between Russia and Trump officials, it SHOULD be examined. If nothing wrong is found, move on. Just like what SHOULD have been done with Clinton's emails, and what should be done with claims of Obama wiretapping.
But will we move on? Doubt it. There will be fresh hatching of conspiracy theories.
Russia didn't influence our elections. The Democrats acted like jackasses. Clinton has a history. The Democrats stopped paying attention to the states. That's what happened.
What I said was "tried" to.
There is no way of knowing whether or not anything they did influenced anything or to what degree so it's pointless to argue it. But it DID sow chaos, mistrust, and a lot real and fake news that is continuing to play out today. What Russia did to us, a d is doing in European elections should be taken seriously, not blown off.
On what you said about the Dems, I agree, there were many factors at play in this election.
Yet not one single ballot vote was forged, changed, or miscounted. So much for election tampering. As for business connections, virtually every American has had some ties to Russia considering that it's not hard to find at least one product/material/service in every single U.S. home. So if we're not talking about election tampering, or business dealings, maybe we could talk about setting aside the desires of the voters in order to please Russian leaders: "Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election"....a deliberate attack on our democratic system...
Yet not one single ballot vote was forged, changed, or miscounted. So much for election tampering. As for business connections, virtually every American has had some ties to Russia considering that it's not hard to find at least one product/material/service in every single U.S. home. So if we're not talking about election tampering, or business dealings, maybe we could talk about setting aside the desires of the voters in order to please Russian leaders: "Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election"....a deliberate attack on our democratic system...
Related:
Yesterday 6:03pm Donna Brazile Flatly Denies Giving Questions to Hillary Clinton ...amid WikiLeaks revelations appearing to show that she provided the Hillary Clinton campaign with questions she would be asked in a televised CNN town hall, flatly denied Saturday that she had done so.
Mar 17, 2017 Donna Brazile: Russia DNC Hack Played Out Exactly As Hoped Donna Brazile admits she did in fact "share potential town hall topics with the Clinton campaign... ...a mistake I will forever regret."
Sounds like you are engaging in redirection and what about isms.Yet not one single ballot vote was forged, changed, or miscounted. So much for election tampering. As for business connections, virtually every American has had some ties to Russia considering that it's not hard to find at least one product/material/service in every single U.S. home. So if we're not talking about election tampering, or business dealings, maybe we could talk about setting aside the desires of the voters in order to please Russian leaders: "Obama tells Russia's Medvedev more flexibility after election"....a deliberate attack on our democratic system...
Related:
Yesterday 6:03pm Donna Brazile Flatly Denies Giving Questions to Hillary Clinton ...amid WikiLeaks revelations appearing to show that she provided the Hillary Clinton campaign with questions she would be asked in a televised CNN town hall, flatly denied Saturday that she had done so.
Mar 17, 2017 Donna Brazile: Russia DNC Hack Played Out Exactly As Hoped Donna Brazile admits she did in fact "share potential town hall topics with the Clinton campaign... ...a mistake I will forever regret."
