Kroger to Strip Benefits of the Unvaccinated

[Captain Caveman]

"Good. For the safety of our customers, we prefer you shop elsewhere."

Another dip shit.

Listen idiot, you DO NOT need protection from an unvaccinated person. I shall repeat that. You DO NOT need protection from an vaccinated person. The vaccine protects you from the virus, so if you got the vaccine, then you are protected

So why the retarded comment? Low IQ, retarded brain, inbred?

I'm vaccinated, not to save me from unvaccinated people, but from the virus. I can only assume you're being thick as fuck on purpose.

 

[hadit]

Why should Kroger have to cover idiots making bad decisions?

Wow, now where have I heard that argument before? Hmmmm, checking, checking, checking. Oh, that's right! It was when the usual suspects (you know who you are) were having fits that some businesses didn't want to pay for employees' birth control. They were ALL upset about that, and I remember the argument from the other side usually came down to this very thing. Why should a company have to cover idiots making bad decisions? Just to be clear, Kroger is within their rights to be as big jackasses as they want to be.

This will be entertaining to watch the spinning.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Obesity

Obesity has reached epidemic proportions globally, with at least 2.8 million people dying each year as a result of being overweight or obese.

www.who.int

Oh, globally. We do not normally set US policy based on global numbers

 

[iamwhatiseem]

That's globally not in the US

Yeah I said that, I didn't realize I made it sound like just the U,S,
Nevertheless the point is well made.
Other causes of VERY preventable death and disease, in fact MOST deaths are preventable. So we are going to be ok with insurance companies and corporations deciding what they will and won't cover?
Because that is what this is.
Looks like a great way for these companies to get back into pre-conditions and non coverage.

 

[Couchpotato]

Yeah I said that, I didn't realize I made it sound like just the U,S,
Nevertheless the point is well made.
Other causes of VERY preventable death and disease, in fact MOST deaths are preventable. So we are going to be ok with insurance companies and corporations deciding what they will and won't cover?
Because that is what this is.
Looks like a great way for these companies to get back into pre-conditions and non coverage.

I agree with you on that point. This is selective outrage over this particular "preventable" health issue. All these other ones dont worry about.....

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Other causes of VERY preventable death and disease, in fact MOST deaths are preventable. So we are going to be ok with insurance companies and corporations deciding what they will and won't cover?
Because that is what this is.
Looks like a great way for these companies to get back into pre-conditions and non coverage.

There is nobody not being covered in this story, all that has happened is they will not get paid emergency leave if they get COVID, that is all.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I agree with you on that point. This is selective outrage over this particular "preventable" health issue. All these other ones dont worry about.....

Smokers, obese people and many more pay higher premiums than healthy people for their insurance. This is not new

 

[Couchpotato]

There is nobody not being covered in this story, all that has happened is they will not get paid emergency leave if they get COVID, that is all.

"Supermarket chain Kroger announced Tuesday it will eliminate paid emergency leave for unvaccinated employees who contract COVID-19 in addition to requiring some of them to pay a monthly $50 health insurance surcharge starting in 2022, according to a company memo."

So not just the emergency leave. They have to pay the insurance surcharge per month. When do they start you're obese 50 dollar surcharge, and you smoke 50 dollar surcharge? Some fat, smoking, unvax'd bastard will have to pay their whole paycheck to Kroger just for the insurance coverage....

 

[debbiedowner]

Yeah I said that, I didn't realize I made it sound like just the U,S,
Nevertheless the point is well made.
Other causes of VERY preventable death and disease, in fact MOST deaths are preventable. So we are going to be ok with insurance companies and corporations deciding what they will and won't cover?
Because that is what this is.
Looks like a great way for these companies to get back into pre-conditions and non coverage.

All health insurance can charge for tobacco use. Pretty much self funded or union funded plans can do just about any damn thing they want.

If you do some research on ufcw and employer health welfare funds you will see The Trustees may amend the rules and benefit levels at any time. You do not have a vested right to any benefits under the Plan and benefits may be changed

Now, if you want to go farther look up the plans for Kroger's seems most area's are negotiated under a different local and one are a single person is paying something like $32 a month and same with family $172. $50 isn't going to hurt the unvaccinated.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Smokers, obese people and many more pay higher premiums than healthy people for their insurance. This is not new

Not true.
There is no insurance plan that charges fees to smokers or anyone else. What they do is offer a "non smoker credit" of $XX. If you smoke, you don't get the credit.
Same for credits for partaking in health wellness etc.
To my knowledge this would be the first time in history a company charges a fee for not doing whatever.
You should be against this.
Next up... $50 fee for not getting flu vaccine. $50 fee for not getting a colonoscopy.
The company is simply taking advantage of a situation to get more money from their employees.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Not true.
There is no insurance plan that charges fees to smokers or anyone else. What they do is offer a "non smoker credit" of $XX. If you smoke, you don't get the credit.
Same for credits for partaking in health wellness etc.
To my knowledge this would be the first time in history a company charges a fee for not doing whatever.
You should be against this.
Next up... $50 fee for not getting flu vaccine. $50 fee for not getting a colonoscopy.
The company is simply taking advantage of a situation to get more money from their employees.

How Does Health Insurance for Obese People Work? | Freeway Insurance

Find out if insurance companies can charge more for health insurance for obese people. Discover how to save money on health insurance for the obese.

www.freewayinsurance.com

Generally, people with a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher can expect to pay more each month for health insurance. In some cases, health insurance for obese people costs 25 to 50 percent more than coverage for people with a BMI below 30.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

How Does Health Insurance for Obese People Work? | Freeway Insurance

Find out if insurance companies can charge more for health insurance for obese people. Discover how to save money on health insurance for the obese.

www.freewayinsurance.com

Generally, people with a body mass index (BMI) of 30 or higher can expect to pay more each month for health insurance. In some cases, health insurance for obese people costs 25 to 50 percent more than coverage for people with a BMI below 30.

Your link says people can be charged more for obesity, but offers no examples of any plan that does.
I looked for a couple minutes and found not one example. But plenty of information saying premiums for overweight people are not higher.
But you already know that

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Your link says people can be charged more for obesity, but offers no examples of any plan that does.
I looked for a couple minutes and found not one example. But plenty of information saying premiums for overweight people are not higher.
But you already know that

Yet no links, just your word for it.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Yeah, no one shops Kroger because it's too crowded...

You and I have a different definition of crowded.
As in the totally opposite definition.
Kroger doesnt even make the top 14 it sucks so bad.

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[ClaireH]

We have Kroger in my area. I will let them know why I am boycotting them

Supermarket giant strips unvaccinated workers of their benefits | WND | by Around the Web

America's largest supermarket chain announced Tuesday it will eliminate paid emergency leave for unvaccinated employees who contract COVID-19 in addition to requiring some of them to pay a monthly $50 health insurance surcharge starting in 2022, according to a company memo.

www.wnd.com

I’m guessing BIO paid Kroger a lump sum to continue forcing employees to abide by a worthless mandate for a worthless concoction. BIO provides dark money to determine health policy over consumers. Dems and Rep representatives btw have received large sums from BIO in 2020 and 2021 to promote using stocked jabs in need of customers for Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson. There is little doubt that there was a huge monetary contribution to incentivize their push for employee vaccine mandates. Just a guess of course, but a good one.

Biotechnology Innovation Organization, the trade group for Pfizer and Moderna, made large dark-money donations during the 2020 election, a new filing reveals.​

Vaccine Makers Funneled Undisclosed Campaign Cash to Democrats and Republicans in 2020

The trade group for Pfizer and Moderna made large dark-money donations during the 2020 election, a new filing reveals.

theintercept.com

 

[WEATHER53]

So far 15 out of every 17 positive tests on Conmecron , the infected has no symptoms at all. No one dies either.
So we have a hoax where no one is sick, no one knows or feels like they are sick, but since they are POSITIVE then there is great pearl clutching and Draconian freedom robbing.
I highly suspect that if we were tested incessantly that all sorts of boogeymen contaigents would be detected in most of us.

 

[dudmuck]

I’m guessing BIO paid Kroger a lump sum to continue forcing employees to abide by a worthless mandate for a worthless concoction. BIO provides dark money to determine health policy over consumers. Dems and Rep representatives btw have received large sums from BIO in 2020 and 2021 to promote using stocked jabs in need of customers for Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson. There is little doubt that there was a huge monetary contribution to incentivize their push for employee vaccine mandates. Just a guess of course, but a good one.

Biotechnology Innovation Organization, the trade group for Pfizer and Moderna, made large dark-money donations during the 2020 election, a new filing reveals.​

Vaccine Makers Funneled Undisclosed Campaign Cash to Democrats and Republicans in 2020

The trade group for Pfizer and Moderna made large dark-money donations during the 2020 election, a new filing reveals.

theintercept.com

more likely that kroger got paid of by their health insurance provider.
or perhaps more correctly, a discount for having vaccinated employees.
less risk for insurance company, since vaccinated are 16 times less likely to die.

 

[krichton]

Kroger, the U.S. grocery giant, eliminates paid Covid-19 leave for unvaccinated workers. (Published 2021)

The company said some unvaccinated employees in its health plans would be charged $50 a month. It’s unclear how many of the company’s nearly 500,000 employees are vaccinated.

www.nytimes.com

"Last year, before coronavirus vaccines were available, the company began offering two weeks of paid time off to employees who contracted Covid-19. Kroger told employees last week that, beginning Jan. 1, that benefit would no longer be available to people who were unvaccinated, the spokeswoman said. The news was reported by The Wall Street Journal on Tuesday.

Unvaccinated employees will still be eligible for other forms of leave, but the special time off will now be open only to fully vaccinated employees.

Kroger also said it would charge salaried workers who are enrolled in a company health care plan $50 a month if they remained unvaccinated. That surcharge would not apply to unionized workers and hourly-wage associates enrolled in a company health care plan."

Seems pretty reasonable to me. Why should Krogers give 2 weeks paid time off for you to be irresponsible? Whatever happened to the old republican credo of "personal responsibility?" I guess the narrative has changed so that no longer applies, just like "law and order" no longer applies if you're storming the nation's capitol building.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Yet no links, just your word for it.

I recognize someone who is just trolling.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I recognize someone who is just trolling.

It is good you can admit to doing that. Again, I provided support to my claim, you are just going with the old "Because I said so".