Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[Pete7469]

It was very effective either way. Why is the bump fire option even necessary or legal?

Do you even understand bump fire? Obviously not… LOL

Bed wetters don't know shit about shit.

 

[MarkDuffy]

There is no Constitutional right to bear military weapons

NONE

There is no need to be able to slaughter many with rapid fire big magazines that can be quickly exchanged.

Tell that to the 300 million+ who lost their lives to a government gone tyrannical.

You utterly fail to know the reason for the 2nd

Should all 200 million drivers in the USA be required to file a route plan of exactly where they plan to go each time they leave home because a few maniacs use trucks to plow into crowds?

That is a garbage argument. If you cannot trust the USofA, then the entire planet is screwed.

Is not the USofA the exceptional nation?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

We have regular mass shootings.

Answer the question.

You say easy access to guns makes it more likely to kill. More likely than what? I know many people personally and know of thousands of people in my county that have easy access to guns and don't kill anyone and never will.


That would be like me saying you having easy access to your dick makes you more likely to rape

I know many people personally and know of thousands of people in my county that have easy access to guns and don't kill anyone and never will.

That's what this terrorist's friends and family said also

And?

It's still not proof that easy access to guns makes one more likely to kill.

It's proof that the killer is more likely to kill more people only because they are easily available.

Cars and trucks are as available, and boy do they use them a lot!

So when will you call for the banning of automobiles, planes and bombs!?!

Just not in this case, dope. The preference was for the readily available and easily accessed rifles. They proved to be very effective.

 

[Vastator]

Once again you ignore the mental health of the shooter. Had he been caught, those weapons would not have been used to kill anyone. That requires the hand of a cognizant (mentally unstable or otherwise) to use these weapons in that way. The weapons just don't animate themselves and start killing people.

Eh, perhaps I made a mistake logging on this morning... for I am being drawn into the politics of the matter.

Look...This is America

We do everything possible to ensure that someone planning a massacre has access to the best weapons and ammo possible. We don't want to inconvenience mass shooters

As to arming crazy people? We did nothing after the Sandy Hook shooter gunned down six year olds. Background checks? Sharing information on the mentally unstable? Restricting high capacity magazines?

Too inconvenient for gun owners

You conveniently omit that Adam Lanza killed his mother and stole her guns but hey why be truthful.

As far as I know Lanza didn't buy any guns himself.

Adam Lanza was freak'n crazy and everyone knew it. Our laws do nothing to try to prevent crazy people from gaining access to guns with large firing capacity. Holmes was crazy, Loughner was crazy, the gunman at Virginia Tech was crazy....this guy in Vegas was probably crazy

We don't care...God forbid a crazy person be blocked from access the weapons of his choice

I read on Heavy.com that this guy has a pilots license and access to two planes. Take away the guns and he'd have flown a plane into 22,000 people. Or. Driven a truck though them...or who knows what. Blame the guy...don't use a maniac to push your anti-gun agenda.

Bull Shit

No reason this monster should have access to automatic weapons....None

No reason we should tolerate leftist ideology... Guns are protected by the Constitution. Leftist ideology isn't...

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Just read he had 10 rifles, not hand guns, rifles. Lawyers will be going after some of that $1 billion of that bottom line. Excuse me while I buy some leap puts on MGM Resorts.

It's too bad we can't sue the gun industry as easily.

IF that were allowed, I assure you the Auto Industry and hammer industry and knife industry would be next

 

[Marion Morrison]

It seems like he definitely had an accomplice or two to me.

Possibly someone brought him the guns and may have been shooting as well.

The guns may not have been in his room more than 24 hrs if operatives kept visiting and dropping off arms/ammo.

There would have been nothing for housekeeping to see.

I would investigate that woman's cohorts/relatives.

She may have manipulated the man.

Too early to tell right now.

 

[otto105]

He was probably a white NRA member working on a castle doctrine case.

It doesn’t matter if the guy was a Republican or a Democrat. What he was was crazy and 50 of more people are dead regardless of which political party he may have belonged to. What needs to be done is something to try and prevent nut cases like him from getting their hands on military grade weapons.

Like laws keeping gun out of mentally unstable people? Laws which the NRA opposes.

Back a year or two ago the Republicans introduced a bill to greatly improve the reporting of the mentally ill and to incorporate that data into the NICS system but the Democrats voted it down with Cloture.

So that pretty well means that the Democrats are against keeping guns out of mentally unstable people, doesn't it?


Senate rejects gun control background check measures

Senate rejects gun control background check measures

But Democrats resoundingly rejected the GOP background check measure, arguing it would do little to make sure potential criminals or terrorists couldn’t buy a gun.

So you post an article that doesn't prove your point?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It was very effective either way. Why is the bump fire option even necessary or legal?

Do you even understand bump fire? Obviously not… LOL

Bed wetters don't know shit about shit.

It wasn't effective? It was your guess that the shooter used it.

 

[MarkDuffy]

It's proof that the killer is more likely to kill more people only because they are easily available.

Ten years ago I had about 25 firearms. Now I have 50 firearms.

So according to you I am now twice as likely to kill people than I was ten years ago??

Is that the convoluted way that you idiot Moon Bats think?

Based on the number of firearms you own? No.

Based on your mental instability? Yes.

LOL, you beat me to the punch due to a smoke break

 

[TNHarley]

And SURPRISE......reports say he recently converted to Islam.

Reports from who?

bloomberg originally. Thats what zz pupps said

 

[RealDave]

If the shooter had been Muslim, Trump would have used it as justification to permanently ban Muslim immigration

But since he was an older white male, he will just chalk it up to the weekly gun carnage our nation endures

Once again you ignore the mental health of the shooter. Had he been caught, those weapons would not have been used to kill anyone. That requires the hand of a cognizant (mentally unstable or otherwise) to use these weapons in that way. The weapons just don't animate themselves and start killing people.

Eh, perhaps I made a mistake logging on this morning... for I am being drawn into the politics of the matter.

Look...This is America

We do everything possible to ensure that someone planning a massacre has access to the best weapons and ammo possible. We don't want to inconvenience mass shooters

As to arming crazy people? We did nothing after the Sandy Hook shooter gunned down six year olds. Background checks? Sharing information on the mentally unstable? Restricting high capacity magazines?

Too inconvenient for gun owners

You conveniently omit that Adam Lanza killed his mother and stole her guns but hey why be truthful.

As far as I know Lanza didn't buy any guns himself.

His mother bought the guns, but she also took him shooting frequently.

She also failed to secure them from her psychopath son.

I know people that can drive very well when drunk. I know people who can text & drive perfectly.

Yet we still ban these things & they are illegal.

So, if people can not keep their guns safely, then why not greatly restrict those than can legally own guns.

We know that introducing a gun into a home puts all those living there of a greater risk.

We have kids getting these a hold of the guns or reaching into Gramma's purse.

I am a gun owner yet I do not carry. I know that there is a risk that I might not lock it up, drop it, accidently fire it the more I handle it. True with everyone.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Naw, i think you were crazy at 25 guns.

It's kind of like a crazy cat lady. There wasn't a specific number of cats that got her that designation.

I resemble that remark !!!!!

 

[JoeB131]

One of the first actions of Hitler was confiscate the guns from Jews.
How'd that work out?

1) Not true. Hitler actually loosened the gun laws the Weimar Republic had imposed.
2) If you were a German Jew, you had a 75% chance of surviving the war. Most of the Jews who were killed in the Holocaust were in countries the Nazis conquered or had allied themselves with Germany.

 

[Flash]

It's proof that the killer is more likely to kill more people only because they are easily available.

Ten years ago I had about 25 firearms. Now I have 50 firearms.

So according to you I am now twice as likely to kill people than I was ten years ago??

Is that the convoluted way that you idiot Moon Bats think?

Based on the number of firearms you own? No.

Based on your mental instability? Yes.

So you admit that the propensity to commit a crime has no correlation to fire arm access?

 

[Likkmee]

There is no Constitutional right to bear military weapons

NONE

There is no need to be able to slaughter many with rapid fire big magazines that can be quickly exchanged.

Tell that to the 300 million+ who lost their lives to a government gone tyrannical.

You utterly fail to know the reason for the 2nd

Should all 200 million drivers in the USA be required to file a route plan of exactly where they plan to go each time they leave home because a few maniacs use trucks to plow into crowds?

That is a garbage argument. If you cannot trust the USofA, then the entire planet is screwed.

Is not the USofA the exceptional nation?

Indeed it is. #1 in PrOn , #1 in serial killers, #1 in pedophilia,#1 in divorce, #1 in wars, #1 in attacking sovereign nations,#1 in abortion( China may be a tie),#1 in prescription drug use. #1 in illicit drug use, #1 client of cocaine on earth, #1 in purchasing shoes with LED light in the heel,#1 in mental illness,#1 in prisoners per capita. Shall I continue ?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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It's proof that the killer is more likely to kill more people only because they are easily available.

Ten years ago I had about 25 firearms. Now I have 50 firearms.

So according to you I am now twice as likely to kill people than I was ten years ago??

Is that the convoluted way that you idiot Moon Bats think?

That's not what I said at all. If a guy chooses firearms to kill, their availability makes it very easy to do so. It's a very effective option as we have seen.

 

[OldLady]

He was probably a white NRA member working on a castle doctrine case.

It doesn’t matter if the guy was a Republican or a Democrat. What he was was crazy and 50 of more people are dead regardless of which political party he may have belonged to. What needs to be done is something to try and prevent nut cases like him from getting their hands on military grade weapons.

Like laws keeping gun out of mentally unstable people? Laws which the NRA opposes.

Back a year or two ago the Republicans introduced a bill to greatly improve the reporting of the mentally ill and to incorporate that data into the NICS system but the Democrats voted it down with Cloture.

So that pretty well means that the Democrats are against keeping guns out of mentally unstable people, doesn't it?


Senate rejects gun control background check measures

Senate rejects gun control background check measures

But Democrats resoundingly rejected the GOP background check measure, arguing it would do little to make sure potential criminals or terrorists couldn’t buy a gun.

His brother didn't think he was nuts. It sounds like the guy had a complete personality change in a very short time. (His brother lives in Florida, so obviously he didn't see him on a daily basis.)
The police had no history with the guy, except a citation from years prior. If they knew him, it wasn't things for which he had been arrested.
And I heard a female companion of his jumped on the stage and screamed "You are all going to die." But it wasn't his girlfriend--police say she was out of the country at the time. So was that a rumor that isn't true?

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

I know people that can drive very well when drunk. I know people who can text & drive perfectly.

Uhhhh....NO

You lost this argument from the get go

 

[Weatherman2020]

One of the first actions of Hitler was confiscate the guns from Jews.
How'd that work out?

1) Not true. Hitler actually loosened the gun laws the Weimar Republic had imposed.
2) If you were a German Jew, you had a 75% chance of surviving the war. Most of the Jews who were killed in the Holocaust were in countries the Nazis conquered or had allied themselves with Germany.

"The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[10][11] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition.[12] Before that, some police forces used the pre-existing "trustworthiness" clause to disarm Jews on the basis that "the Jewish population 'cannot be regarded as trustworthy'".[8]"

And you lecturing to us on how things were really not that bad for Jews in NAZI Germany tells us everything we need to know about why you want gun control here.

 

[JoeB131]

By focusing on the REAL problem...PEOPLE.

By not allowing bleeding heart judges to give dangerous people a mere slap on the wrist so they can then go do things like this

Except there's no indication this guy had a criminal record of any sort.

By prosecuting ANYONE who would give thousands of automatic weapons the the Mexican Cartel

Okay. That would be the gun manufacturers of America, but I don't see that happening. Or are you talking about the trickle of guns that were used to try to catch gun runners?

By bringing back mental institutions

I could be snarky and say, "Let's start in USMB", but the fact is, those places were cruel and didn't do much to help the people in them.

By prosecuting ANY President or ex President who would release thousands of CRIMINALS from prison for political / racist reasons

Again, not seeing how any of these prevents a crazy person like the guy today from going on a mass shooting. It seems like you are trying to point to everything else in the room to deflect.